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[Bryy_Miller]

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

Then don't import Awakening. I'm thinking of not doing it.

[Saibh]

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

I think it makes sense, even if it is saddening, you know? Because if your character is queen/advisor/this great hero, you'd think Hawke would encounter her/him at some point. But if s/he goes off, then it solves the problem of establishing a voice and personality to your character. Who knows? Maybe Alistair will ask you to find some trace of the queen.

EDIT: Bryy...I'm pretty sure the Warden will be disappear'd anyway.

Modifié par Saibh, 17 juillet 2010 - 05:16 .

[langelog]

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

Yeah my Cousland married Anora, and Loghain is my father in law, it was a surprise to see that my Warden did something similar. I don't want to spoil anything so I'll leave it at that.

[Bryy_Miller]

Saibh wrote...

I think it makes sense, even if it is saddening, you know? Because if your character is queen/advisor/this great hero, you'd think Hawke would encounter her/him at some point. But if s/he goes off, then it solves the problem of establishing a voice and personality to your character. Who knows? Maybe Alistair will ask you to find some trace of the queen.

EDIT: Bryy...I'm pretty sure the Warden will be disappear'd anyway.

It's going to be real interesting to see how it plays out in-game.

[errant_knight]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Of course, Errant. I can honestly understand the concerns, as, so far, most of what we have talked about represent changes to a game that you really enjoyed. The simple truth is that if we opened with "Dragon Age II is almost exactly the same game, and we'll talk about some differences later," that would be far more misleading, disingenuous and you would be far more pissed off. I'd rather be up front about what's changing than try to hide it.

That said, I'm not writing anything off. If people are unhappy with what they're hearing, that's fair. If, however, people are unhappy about things that have not been explicitly discussed and assuming that we are going to do the thing that will make them the most unhappy, the discussion rapidly breaks down into upset conjecture.

Therefore, assuming that because the GI article only talked about Origins because we were going to wad up every decision from Awakenings and toss them into the trash falls into that realm of negative conjecture. In truth, we look at Awakenings, Leliana's Song and so on as part of a larger whole that we think of as Origins.

Thanks for responding, I appreciate that. I acknowledge that it may well be possible that you have found a way to take elements that I haven't enjoyed in other games, and use them in a new way that I will. Given my past experience with those elements, that have been confirmed if not detailed, though, it does cause me concern. The decisions from Awakening isn't one of my concerns at all, I was only responding to the idea that I might take some perverse pleasure in fearing for the direction of the game. I really don't.

[syllogi]

Saibh wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

I think it makes sense, even if it is saddening, you know? Because if your character is queen/advisor/this great hero, you'd think Hawke would encounter her/him at some point. But if s/he goes off, then it solves the problem of establishing a voice and personality to your character. Who knows? Maybe Alistair will ask you to find some trace of the queen.

EDIT: Bryy...I'm pretty sure the Warden will be disappear'd anyway.

Sigh.  I know.  But it's still very sad to me. 

I don't suppose I can import a save for a character who put Alistair on the throne alone, and then have my Fem Hawke romance him in DA2???

[Bryy_Miller]

Usurping the throne is now a euphamism.

[Ellendrial]

Once again Bio-Ware promised one thing then delivers another, Was it not too long ago we heard them say that Awakening was a side attraction to fill in gap of time between the death of the Archdemon and the next game where your character and relationships were to continue ?.

 So why did we just dump the original characters original relationships to start a brand new dragon age? I am not sure we are not being played for suckers on this one. I really was looking forward to continuing my adventures with the character I have now not form a whole new one and start all over.

[Bryy_Miller]

Ellendrial wrote...

Was it not too long ago we heard them say that Awakening was a side attraction to fill in gap of time between the death of the Archdemon and the next game where your character and relationships were to continue ?. 

They never said this, and I don't think you should base your assumptions about the next game on things you don't even know yourself are true or false.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Our intent is to include information and decisions from Awakening as well as Origins into DA2.

Good to know..

I am going to repeat my Awakening playtroughs now, cause I had rushed them a bit and without paying too much attention at many things...
On Monday evening, after patch 1.04 will be out Awakening will be on fire

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 17 juillet 2010 - 05:45 .

[saruman85]

TeenZombie wrote...

Saibh wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

I think it makes sense, even if it is saddening, you know? Because if your character is queen/advisor/this great hero, you'd think Hawke would encounter her/him at some point. But if s/he goes off, then it solves the problem of establishing a voice and personality to your character. Who knows? Maybe Alistair will ask you to find some trace of the queen.

EDIT: Bryy...I'm pretty sure the Warden will be disappear'd anyway.

Sigh.  I know.  But it's still very sad to me. 

I don't suppose I can import a save for a character who put Alistair on the throne alone, and then have my Fem Hawke romance him in DA2???

LOL wow you really love him don'tcha.

TBH I suspect the most Alistair will make in DA2 is an Awakening-style cameo in the vein of "Hey whassup Hawke, I'm the king, here's your mission, g'bye".

And yeah I'm pretty sure the Warden's gone - if you play Awakening as an Orlesian warden and meet Wynne, she makes some vague reference to the "Hero of Ferelden". I'm sure that's how it's gonna be all through Awakening - the saves'll probably only import some plot flags.

I feel your pain - Alistair and I had a bromance every playthrough

[syllogi]

Yeah, I like Alistair. But I don't want to import a save with Anora on the throne...I don't even have one, and I don't want to entertain that idea.



I realized that the Awakening and DA:O saves are separate, though, and there is a good chance that I can import both my pretty-pretty Princess-Consort Cousland *and* my adorable Orlesian Warden. I'd be perfectly happy with that choice.

[errant_knight]

TeenZombie wrote...

Yeah, I like Alistair. But I don't want to import a save with Anora on the throne...I don't even have one, and I don't want to entertain that idea.

I realized that the Awakening and DA:O saves are separate, though, and there is a good chance that I can import both my pretty-pretty Princess-Consort Cousland *and* my adorable Orlesian Warden. I'd be perfectly happy with that choice.

Heh, and I'll be importing my tough-as-nails, not so amazingly pretty Cousland. Isn't open roleplay awesome?

[Noir201]

Only problem with me is, i have that many chars, some only halfway past the game, if i wanted some chars historys to import, im in for a busy 6-7 months

[Thomas9321]

Hmm, Awakening carries over aswell? Will that mean my Warden searching for Morrigan at the end will carry over?

[Noir201]

@Thomas9321 : i'm sure they will, not 100% tho, but i don't class Awakening as ever been made, played once, never again, all my char are Origins char only

[saruman85]

TeenZombie wrote...



Yeah, I like Alistair. But I don't
want to import a save with Anora on the throne...I don't even have one,
and I don't want to entertain that idea.



I realized that the
Awakening and DA:O saves are separate, though, and there is a good
chance that I can import both my pretty-pretty Princess-Consort Cousland
*and* my adorable Orlesian Warden. I'd be perfectly happy with that
choice.

Good plan. And I'm with you on Anora - hated that manipulative woman. She's some NPC that pops up more than halfway through the game, and I'm supposed to care about her more than Alistair who's saved my squishy mage butt tons of times? Sorry mate.

Noir201 wrote...

Only problem with me is, i have that many
chars, some only halfway past the game, if i wanted some chars historys
to import, im in for a busy 6-7 months

It's ME2 all over again!

Thomas9321 wrote...

Hmm, Awakening carries over aswell? Will that mean my Warden searching for Morrigan at the end will carry over?

Probably not, though I'd love it as well. Current evidence points towards your warden not appearing at all in DA2...

Modifié par saruman85, 17 juillet 2010 - 06:51 .

[Noir201]

saruman85 wrote...

It's ME2 all over again!

Ugh, don't get me started on a rant about that....

[biomag]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Therefore, assuming that because the GI article only talked about Origins because we were going to wad up every decision from Awakenings and toss them into the trash falls into that realm of negative conjecture. In truth, we look at Awakenings, Leliana's Song and so on as part of a larger whole that we think of as Origins.

Thats the part I like best. I would love to have a game background where I not only played all the big stories but also made the decisions that changed the world. Great idea from BioWare. That's what I enjoy at playing video games compared to movies and books. Its interactive and you are bringing it to its max. Great!

[blademaster7]

DA2 supports Awakening saves? Hawke finds the Vigilance sword. You heard it from me first.

Question: Do we get to import the Ultimate Sacrifice this time?

Thomas9321 wrote...

Hmm, Awakening carries over aswell? Will that mean my Warden searching for Morrigan at the end will carry over?

Do you really want that to import? Morrigan will pop up at some point and your Warden is still searching... lol Give the guy a break.

Modifié par blademaster7, 17 juillet 2010 - 07:02 .

[saruman85]

blademaster7 wrote...

DA2 supports Awakening saves? Hawke finds the Vigilance sword. You heard it from me first.

Question: Do we get to import the Ultimate Sacrifice this time?

Thomas9321 wrote...

Hmm, Awakening carries over aswell? Will that mean my Warden searching for Morrigan at the end will carry over?

Do you really want that to import? Morrigan will pop up at some point and your Warden is still searching... lol Give the guy a break.

And if it DOES import, imagine: your Hawke gets it on with Morrigan in camp - and one night your old Warden turns up and battles you to the death.

/EPIC FAIL

[UndercoverDoctor]

Arttis wrote...

BlackyBlack wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Bioware better not leave things out because we did not buy an expansion!

Whatever happened to playing the game for fun? Why should everything transfer?

Everything should not transfer that is my point.

Your point should get the out of here.

[Chairon de Celeste]

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

Strange, at least for my pc platform copy Alistair always eagerly waits for her return at Denerims main gate,
grinning from ear to ear the moment he spots her (same for Anora waiting for her male noble).

[syllogi]

Chairon de Celeste wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

Strange, at least for my pc platform copy Alistair always eagerly waits for her return at Denerims main gate,
grinning from ear to ear the moment he spots her (same for Anora waiting for her male noble).

The next slide says that after a time the Grey Warden disappeared, never to be heard from again.  Pretty sure it's the same for every human noble who takes the throne.  You can have a "happier" ending if you and Alistair aren't on the throne, in that you two disappear together.

[TMZuk]

BlackyBlack wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

Bioware better include DA:A, for those of us who bought it and struggled through it!

Struggled? Gaming's not your second job, it's suppose to be for fun.

Indeed. But Awakenings was rather boring, I'm afraid. Combined with the instability it WAS a struggle. More's the shame.

Modifié par TMZuk, 17 juillet 2010 - 07:35 .