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[Lord_Saulot]

I actually enjoyed Awakening and didn't have noticeable technical troubles with it, so I'm glad it can be used for continuity.

[Chairon de Celeste]

TeenZombie wrote...

Chairon de Celeste wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

Strange, at least for my pc platform copy Alistair always eagerly waits for her return at Denerims main gate,
grinning from ear to ear the moment he spots her (same for Anora waiting for her male noble).

The next slide says that after a time the Grey Warden disappeared, never to be heard from again.  Pretty sure it's the same for every human noble who takes the throne.  You can have a "happier" ending if you and Alistair aren't on the throne, in that you two disappear together.

Right - that is where I've thought: 'Disappear from Ferelden doesn't mean she / he left without husband  /wife - if there's anything that isn't stable then locol politics - even a royal family can be forced to go into exile.'
And I'm certain it read similar to never heard of in Ferelden.
After all Ferelden is just a small country in Thedas and Thedas is just a one continnent on a whole planet

Modifié par Chairon de Celeste, 17 juillet 2010 - 07:43 .

[syllogi]

Chairon de Celeste wrote...

Right - that is where I've thought: 'Disappear from Ferelden doesn't mean she / he left without husband  /wife - if there's anything that isn't stable then locol politics - even a royal family can be forced to go into exile.'

I base my interpretation on the fact that if you're only in love in Alistair, the slide says "some say she and Alistair disappeared, never to be heard from again" rather than "some say she disappeared".  And the Zevran and Leliana endings are similar, in that they disappear, but it's not implied that the Warden leaves without them. 

If my Warden has to disappear, I want to make sure I'm taking Alistair with me, is all...

[Venn]

TMZuk wrote...

BlackyBlack wrote...

TMZuk wrote...

Bioware better include DA:A, for those of us who bought it and struggled through it!

Struggled? Gaming's not your second job, it's suppose to be for fun.

Indeed. But Awakenings was rather boring, I'm afraid. Combined with the instability it WAS a struggle. More's the shame.

I don't get what instability is that you all are talking about. THE biggest glitch in my playthrouh was a one time bug where I could not save the game when out of combat; re-zoning helped, and thats it. No lags, no crashing, no gamebraking bugs.

[Chairon de Celeste]

TeenZombie wrote...
I base my interpretation on the fact that if you're only in love in Alistair, the slide says "some say she and Alistair disappeared, never to be heard from again" rather than "some say she disappeared".  And the Zevran and Leliana endings are similar, in that they disappear, but it's not implied that the Warden leaves without them. 

If my Warden has to disappear, I want to make sure I'm taking Alistair with me, is all...

Somehow my stomach tells me we'll learn about that in DA2 or later - so I do my best to keep him in good humor...
As long as Duncan doesn't return as a darkspawn and the Architect's second in command, chances are good.

[Warheadz]

As it has been stated that a canon ending will be provided if you havent completed Origins, do we know about Awakening? If I havent played it, will i get a canon ending from it?

[Celticon]

I'm not going to bother importing, since DA2 is going to be played from the perspective of an all-new character.



To me, importing didn't make that much of a difference in Awakening, save for some story/epilogue events and of course being able to keep my stats/skills/items. The latter was the only reason I bother importing.

[saruman85]

Venn wrote...

I don't get what instability is that you all are talking about. THE biggest glitch in my playthrouh was a one time
bug where I could not save the game when out of combat; re-zoning helped, and thats it. No lags, no crashing, no gamebraking bugs.

Trust me, friend, you were lucky. VERY lucky.

Celticon wrote...

I'm not going to bother importing, since DA2 is going to be played from the perspective of an all-new character.

To me, importing didn't make that much of a difference in Awakening, save for some story/epilogue events and of course being able to keep my stats/skills/items. The latter was the only reason I bother importing.

That's probably what's going to happen in DA2 too - just some major plot flags transferring over, such as who's monarch of Ferelden. You can always play the game with and without a save - Awakening was very different as an Orlesian warden.

Modifié par saruman85, 17 juillet 2010 - 08:04 .

[Kalfear]

Lord_Saulot wrote...

I actually enjoyed Awakening and didn't have noticeable technical troubles with it, so I'm glad it can be used for continuity.

Same, I enjoyed it for what it was.
To short but was only a expansion and still better worth then any DLC

DA:O = 40 hours for $70.00 = $1.75/hour for content (not counting the 15 replays I done which makes game $0.12/hour for content)

Awakening = 20 for $40.00 = $2.00 hour for content (not counting the 4 replays I done which makes game $0.50/hour for content)

DLC = 2.5 hours for $7.50 = $3.00 hour for content (has zero replayability so final price is still $3.00/hour for content)

Seems smaller the product the more costly it is, maybe Bioware should stick solely to full games only

[Lord Gremlin]

IrishSpectre257 wrote...

Wait, was there a post-game save in Awakening? When I beat it, the credits rolled and it sent me back to the title screen.

Final autosave in Awakening. Before the Mother battle. That's your post-game save, all choices made.

[Fishy]

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

You make it canon if you want to make it canon.If you don't want to import awakening because you hate the ending.Than just don't import it .

[NKKKK]

All Alistair and femcousland have to do anyways is make a baby.

Also we need one more expansion.

[KendallX23]

my favourite companion is from Awakening...so i would like to have the expansion imported to DA2

at any rate i assume how we will transfer is not yet known....though a ME2 style better be used..as the other rumored way does no good for me

[joriandrake]

_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

http://social.biowar...1/index/3064634

damn, no incest, oh well, lets wait for the first mod to fix that

[joriandrake]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Our intent is to include information and decisions from Awakening as well as Origins into DA2.

We have never said otherwise, but it seems that unless things are specifically stated, there are folks who enjoy assuming the absolute worst. Probably because if you assume the worst possible outcome, everything's a pleasant surprise.

thanks

and yes, clear replies are necessary to avoid mass lynching though rumors

[errant_knight]

NKKKK wrote...

All Alistair and femcousland have to do anyways is make a baby.
Also we need one more expansion.

Yep. I want those disappearances explained and resolved. I'd also like to know what's brewing with the sucession, given that they carefully arranged that none of the possible rulers were likely to have a child. Then there's the question of whether or not there's another Theirin out there somewhere. Also, research into the taint was mentioned both in Anora's end speech, and by Avernus. Did anyone get anywhere with that?

[errant_knight]

joriandrake wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Our intent is to include information and decisions from Awakening as well as Origins into DA2.

We have never said otherwise, but it seems that unless things are specifically stated, there are folks who enjoy assuming the absolute worst. Probably because if you assume the worst possible outcome, everything's a pleasant surprise.

thanks

and yes, clear replies are necessary to avoid mass lynching though rumors

This probably wouldn't be true if things that seemed unimaginable hadn't already been announced.

[joriandrake]

errant_knight wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Our intent is to include information and decisions from Awakening as well as Origins into DA2.

We have never said otherwise, but it seems that unless things are specifically stated, there are folks who enjoy assuming the absolute worst. Probably because if you assume the worst possible outcome, everything's a pleasant surprise.

thanks

and yes, clear replies are necessary to avoid mass lynching though rumors

This probably wouldn't be true if things that seemed unimaginable hadn't already been announced.

very true

[toddx77]

Could make the import be similar to Golden Sun? I havent played Golden Sun 2 since 2004 but if I remember correctly that when you imported your save data from Golden Sun 1 mainly only your chatacter name and stats carried over along with a few other things. So maybe when it comes to the old characters they will appear as minor roles or meet them one time and it would be an important conversation.

[neverable2]

if we get to import our decisions, will mods corrupt the transfer, or corrupt in any case at all?

[Chairon de Celeste]

neverable2 wrote...

if we get to import our decisions, will mods corrupt the transfer, or corrupt in any case at all?

modifications like 'Anyone can marry Alistair'  combined with 'equal love' come to mind
- I can imagine the game will not allow a dwarven male prince consort or an elven
princess consort fly without causing some trouble or at least weirdness.

Just to make that very clear: no side is to blame here:
neither the developers who didn't see a point in allowuing that many combinations,
nor the players who wanted for instance their female human noble warden to
rule at Anora's side.

[brian leal]

wow, great responses, mike/ n the way it was actually said fits your avatar/ i know that might sound crazy, but the whole time i was reading them, my head kept hearing logain saying it/ with the blunt honesty, yet assurance of calming the people/ if that makes any sense

[Artemis_Entrari]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Our intent is to include information and decisions from Awakening as well as Origins into DA2..

I'll be curious to see how you guys handle the "importing a dead Warden" thing.  That's one of my biggest worries (about the importing of characters).  I sacrificed my Warden in Origins, but apparently since I imported that save into Awakenings he's alive again (I wanted to import the decisions but not the actual Warden).

So if DA2 uses that save, then how is that going to work?  Will it assume a retcon and now my dead Warden is alive for DA2 (ala Awakenings)?  Or are you guys going to be able to tweak it so that the Warden is dead, but the decisions made during that game carry on?

If it's the former, I'll likely just not even bother ever sacrificing my Warden, because then my options are a]play with a new Warden in Awakenings and use the default decisions instead of my own or b]my Warden is retconned to being alive and my decision to sacrifice him gone all so I could play DA2 with the decisions I made in Origins.

[Skilled Seeker]

I never had technical problems with either DA:O or Awakenings and don't know what the fuss is all about. Sure there are bugs but the game runs perfectly fine.

[ankuu]

TeenZombie wrote...

Chairon de Celeste wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

Strange, at least for my pc platform copy Alistair always eagerly waits for her return at Denerims main gate,
grinning from ear to ear the moment he spots her (same for Anora waiting for her male noble).

The next slide says that after a time the Grey Warden disappeared, never to be heard from again.  Pretty sure it's the same for every human noble who takes the throne.  You can have a "happier" ending if you and Alistair aren't on the throne, in that you two disappear together.

SPOILER

Actually, as a mage i did put him on the throne and i remained as his...prostitute? <_< And at the end of Awakening i got the together disappearing scene. With my human noble fem, i got the same as you did. But i know where she ran, in the new DLC that is! xD