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[joriandrake]

Arttis wrote...

Awakening Did Not Happen.
Origins Did indeed happen though.

and what do you mean by that? as far I remember it was said that the expansion save can also be transferred, what means Awakening did happen


edit: damn, tricked into helping with threadomancy

Modifié par joriandrake, 28 juillet 2010 - 05:12 .

[Code2010]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Our intent is to include information and decisions from Awakening as well as Origins into DA2.

We have never said otherwise, but it seems that unless things are specifically stated, there are folks who enjoy assuming the absolute worst. Probably because if you assume the worst possible outcome, everything's a pleasant surprise.

 Nice! thanks for the post.

[AllThatJazz]

 Sorry to resurrect this thread, but since it already exists I thought it was better than starting a new one. Also, my apologies if this is a really stupid question. I've been up since 4am and my brain isn't working 

Will there be a default version of the Awakenings events as well as Origins? And if you import an Origins save but not an Awakenings save, how will this affect the default story?

I would assume that if your warden died at the end of Origins, then the Awakenings default would be all about the Orlesian. But what if your warden didn't die and is still an active Warden? Would the default make sense if it used the Orlesian, despite the last remaining Fereldan Warden still being around? Or, if you haven't played Awakenings (or imported an Awakenings save), is it just assumed that none of those events happened at all? I realise there is no official word on this yet, but I'm curious as to people's thoughts.  

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 31 juillet 2010 - 11:06 .

[mr_luga]

I'm curious though, if you made the ultimate sacrifice, and carry that save over to Awakenings, and you are alive, what is the explination? Did you do the ritual, or did something that hasnt been explained happen?

[Lintanis]

mr_luga wrote...

I'm curious though, if you made the ultimate sacrifice, and carry that save over to Awakenings, and you are alive, what is the explination? Did you do the ritual, or did something that hasnt been explained happen?

Yes you can import a US warden but it will be from a save before you did the US so you are basically undoing that decision ,  you can start awakenings with an Orlesian Warden if you dont want to undo your choice 

Modifié par Lintanis, 31 juillet 2010 - 03:04 .

[AllThatJazz]

Lintanis wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

I'm curious though, if you made the ultimate sacrifice, and carry that save over to Awakenings, and you are alive, what is the explination? Did you do the ritual, or did something that hasnt been explained happen?

Yes you can import a US warden but it will be from a save before you did the US so you are basically undoing that decision ,  you can start awakenings with an Orlesian Warden if you dont want to undo your choice 

But in this scenario, does the game assume therefore that the Dark Ritual was completed, or that Alistair/Loghain did the US, I wonder?

[Ymladdych]

AllThatJazz wrote...
I would assume that if your warden died at the end of Origins, then the Awakenings default would be all about the Orlesian. But what if your warden didn't die and is still an active Warden? Would the default make sense if it used the Orlesian, despite the last remaining Fereldan Warden still being around? Or, if you haven't played Awakenings (or imported an Awakenings save), is it just assumed that none of those events happened at all? I realise there is no official word on this yet, but I'm curious as to people's thoughts.  

Hmmm...you make some good points, but I think it would be fine if they used an Orlesian Commander default for surviving wardens who don't go to Amaranthine.  If a player refuses to import an Awakening save, then the Warden is technically refusing the quest; someone's got to do it...right? 

Now, if Bioware is intent on moving forward from the events of Awakening -- I don't see why they wouldn't be with such a large chunk of story -- and they don't want more than one surviving Origins Warden for plot purposes, then they'll *have* to default Awakening choices for the player's PC.  In other words, if they don't use an Orelsian Commander default when there's a surviving Origins Warden, then players who refuse an Awakening import will not be saving their PC from the consequences of that storyline...they'll just be denying themselves input into how it plays out.  (*shudders because she knows how much players LOVE to hear that sort of thing*)

One thing I don't see happening: Bioware tossing the entire Awakening storyline for some players and not for others.  It'll be all or nothing.

Modifié par Ymladdych, 31 juillet 2010 - 03:29 .

[Patrikm]

Arttis wrote...

Awakening Did Not Happen.
Origins Did indeed happen though.

Awakening DID happen...

its set just after origins, and in DA II you will see characters from awakening

[Dave of Canada]

Elithranduil wrote...

So basically, since there is no way to import individual DLC like Leliana's Song or Golems or Witch Hunt - and as far as I know Awakening too (which features no post-game save) - you will take the general 'gist' or 'vibe' from the DLC and work them into the DA2 narrative? Meaning the save file data from the DLC and expansion won't *explicitly* be carried across but more transferred in spirit?

Golems has no important choices in the entire experience, simply being imported from it should be a big enough "Oh hey you played it" decision should they decide to keep something from the experience. As for Awakening, there's no important choice after the Architect. You'd be perfectly fine importing after that, they can assume the Mother is dead.

[Oshunsar]

Mike,



will it be possible to import from Xbox when you'll play DA2 on PC?

[In Exile]

I'm a lot more worried about how they import a Warden that wanted to tell the Wardens to go shove a pipe up their behinds. The biggest problem with Awakening was that it absolutely destroyed the character of any Warden that went kicking and screaming into the order and  saved Ferelden because it was the right thing to do, not because of any tie to this order.

The biggest reason I'm excited for Hawke (aside from VO) is that it might stop Bioware from retconning my characters.

Modifié par In Exile, 05 décembre 2010 - 09:06 .

[Mikka-chan]

If I am correct, the story goes Origins (with three DLC as part of that story), then Awakenings, then Golems, then Witch Hunt, right? L's Song and the Darkspawn chronicles hang off to the side somewhere. So I'll wish to import my final save from Witch Hunt, likely.



It won't be possible to import two saves, right? Like I let my Warden die in Origins, then play an Orlesian through Awakenings (and Witch Hunt, I guess- can you?)... I can only import one, not the other. If I import the Orlesian, will it assume there was a Warden who did the Ultimate Sacrifice and just carefully dance around any details about what that Warden was like at all? (The only thing that worries me is gender, there- perhaps they'll just use the same gender as the Orlesian.)



I hope if you guys ever do a sacrifice ending like that again, you allow us to import the results in to the next DLC. It's a bit sad that my choices were either to force the character to come back to life or to just ignore every decision she may have made. ;; But that's just a minor complaint.

[AltWren]

So I'm going to be importing what now? Man... I'm so confused... I have a Warden, and he did the US. I also have Awakenings, but haven't played it, because, well, my guy's dead. So my options are a) resurrection via Morrigan's deal, new Warden, old Warden never existed, or c) don't play Awakenings.



Can you guys just let us import two saves plz? I know it takes some extra coding, but it really fixes the problem caused by the unsightly retcon of the US ending. We're in this situation because someone working on Awakenings said "Hey, importing the story from US ending is complicated. Since this is only an expansion, let's just not do it. We'll swap the ritual for it." People from Bioware have stated in interviews that this was not the optimal solution they were hoping for.



Please please please, take the time to fix this. No missing endings or decisions. No retcons. No compromises. It drove me nuts in Mass Effect when just one decision imported wrong. Suddenly it felt like I was playing someone else's Sheppard instead.



Also remember what you did with KOTOR as well. It isn't always necessary to import a -file- to import a story. Some well placed questions by Anton was all it took to get KOTOR2 reflecting our decisions from the previous game. You said before that importing two saves would be prone to errors? Well, let us use two saves and use this method to error check. We can correct problems found mid-game with a conversation branch stating "that's no the story I heard..."



Just the two cents of a fan still trying to figure out how to get my saves ready for March.

[KendallX23]

i don't see how Leliana's Song can have something transfered to DA2...seeing as the Warden has no say in it..unless it's something general and not warden related(like a dam armor)...

Golems and Witch Hunt ARE a warden followup so it make sense we can import them too..especially WH

[Bryy_Miller]

Gurrock wrote...

 What decisions will transfer over to DAO2?

I'd assume that's not something they would tell us.

[ExarKun00720]

KendallX23 wrote...

i don't see how Leliana's Song can have something transfered to DA2...seeing as the Warden has no say in it..unless it's something general and not warden related(like a dam armor)...
Golems and Witch Hunt ARE a warden followup so it make sense we can import them too..especially WH

Well seeing as DA2 is not our hero from DA:O's second half, I see no reason why Leliana's Song could not effect the world, cause in essense that is what you want to see is effected, the world.  Since we won't have our hero there is no reason to worry what happened to him, but the consequences and such throughout the world is of more concern.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

If somebody imported a save from Origins and nothing else and it included the Ultimate Sacrifice, would that game count as the sacrifice still happening or would it undo the decisions like Awakenings?

[IRMcGhee]

I'd guess that your Warden dies in that reality and you get whatever the default choices are for everything after that.

[PsychoBlonde]

TeenZombie wrote...

NOOOOOOOOO

I hated the Awakening ending for Human Female Nobles who married Alistair (and I'm assuming that HMNs get a similar ending). I wanted to believe it's not canon.

So my only solution is to play DA:O all the way through again with my female Cousland, and not let Alistair become king, if I want to stay with him in the future after Awakening? SOB.

Erm . . . you could just import your Origins save instead of your Awakening save.  I mean, if you wanted your female Cousland to stay with Alistair, why didn't you make a new Warden for Awakening in the first place?  You COULD do that, you know.

[PsychoBlonde]

AltWren wrote...

Please please please, take the time to fix this. No missing endings or decisions. No retcons. No compromises. It drove me nuts in Mass Effect when just one decision imported wrong. Suddenly it felt like I was playing someone else's Sheppard instead.

You're assuming the imported info will have a LARGE effect on the game.  It probably won't.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Archictect never comes up at all, or if he does, it's only in a random NPC gossip line that could be interpreted half a dozen ways.  The big major decisions in Origins and Awakening all take some time to percolate before they really manifest their impact.

[TTTX]

Let us hope that there isn't any bugs when you transfer your saved data.



there were bugs in ME-ME2 transfer and that was annoying to know that some of the choices wasn't always affected by the path you had taken.

[upsettingshorts]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Erm . . . you could just import your Origins save instead of your Awakening save.  I mean, if you wanted your female Cousland to stay with Alistair, why didn't you make a new Warden for Awakening in the first place?  You COULD do that, you know.

Continuity of influence.  Unless we can import two different saves (a Warden DA:O and an Orlesian DA:A) the only way to continue to effect the storyline of Dragon Age within one, consitent personal "canon" is to use the same Warden throughout.  That makes some choices impossible/retconned (the Ultimate Sacrifice) and leads to other issues for some people, including but not limited to players like me who wished I could have played SimGwaren with my Warden and Teyrna Leliana.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 décembre 2010 - 07:57 .

[Da_Lion_Man]

What about the people who have DA:O but not Awakening? Will they be able to import their savefile?