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Okay...uh...um...Flemeth seems kind of....well...uh...sexy O_o


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woops jsut realised you were probably joking haha sorry :P

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Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, I really want to know if this "new" Flemeth is simply part of the new visual design on everything or if there is some sort of in-game explanation? Given that its concept art though, I believe Gaider posted in a thread saying that the in game model for Flemeth doesn't look quite as young and hot as the concept art.

Still, I'm curious if this is just a visual retcon, or what?


She's a thousand-year-old abomination, a shapeshifter who, according to legend (and according to the grimoire you give Morrigan) seduces mortal men in order to get herself more daughters. Her daughters are reputed to be able to kill men with fear.  She's both a seductress and a hag. She played up the hag aspect for the Warden, "Oh, never mind me, I'm just a crazy old bat who saved your life! Go on your quest and take my daughter with you! I'm sure nothing terrible could come from that..."  But just because the Warden only saw her as the hag, doesn't mean that's all she was...

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DanteCousland wrote...

woops jsut realised you were probably joking haha sorry :P

No im 99% serious.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, I really want to know if this "new" Flemeth is simply part of the new visual design on everything or if there is some sort of in-game explanation? Given that its concept art though, I believe Gaider posted in a thread saying that the in game model for Flemeth doesn't look quite as young and hot as the concept art.

Still, I'm curious if this is just a visual retcon, or what?


She's a thousand-year-old abomination, a shapeshifter who, according to legend (and according to the grimoire you give Morrigan) seduces mortal men in order to get herself more daughters. Her daughters are reputed to be able to kill men with fear.  She's both a seductress and a hag. She played up the hag aspect for the Warden, "Oh, never mind me, I'm just a crazy old bat who saved your life! Go on your quest and take my daughter with you! I'm sure nothing terrible could come from that..."  But just because the Warden only saw her as the hag, doesn't mean that's all she was...


I love it when you talk like that.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, I really want to know if this "new" Flemeth is simply part of the new visual design on everything or if there is some sort of in-game explanation? Given that its concept art though, I believe Gaider posted in a thread saying that the in game model for Flemeth doesn't look quite as young and hot as the concept art.

Still, I'm curious if this is just a visual retcon, or what?


She's a thousand-year-old abomination, a shapeshifter who, according to legend (and according to the grimoire you give Morrigan) seduces mortal men in order to get herself more daughters. Her daughters are reputed to be able to kill men with fear.  She's both a seductress and a hag. She played up the hag aspect for the Warden, "Oh, never mind me, I'm just a crazy old bat who saved your life! Go on your quest and take my daughter with you! I'm sure nothing terrible could come from that..."  But just because the Warden only saw her as the hag, doesn't mean that's all she was...

Interesting! That opens up possibilities, doesn't it?

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Mary Kirby wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Yeah, I really want to know if this "new" Flemeth is simply part of the new visual design on everything or if there is some sort of in-game explanation? Given that its concept art though, I believe Gaider posted in a thread saying that the in game model for Flemeth doesn't look quite as young and hot as the concept art.

Still, I'm curious if this is just a visual retcon, or what?


She's a thousand-year-old abomination, a shapeshifter who, according to legend (and according to the grimoire you give Morrigan) seduces mortal men in order to get herself more daughters. Her daughters are reputed to be able to kill men with fear.  She's both a seductress and a hag. She played up the hag aspect for the Warden, "Oh, never mind me, I'm just a crazy old bat who saved your life! Go on your quest and take my daughter with you! I'm sure nothing terrible could come from that..."  But just because the Warden only saw her as the hag, doesn't mean that's all she was...

That's what I thought. There's a fine old tradition of witches appearing differently to different people.

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The art style reminds me a whole lot of the art used in all of the old AD&D Planescape stuff.

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Oh Javier deleted his post and unlocked it....strange.

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Javi's playing around. I know you are. I KNOW IT.

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He was probably like "hahah another topic locked....Oh a bioware dev spoke in it. For give me for my blasphemey oh mighty ones".

seriously though, are you hinting at flemeth being more of a seductress this time round Mary, maybe even a Love Interest.

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Once again I am RIGHT

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Flemeth as a love interest? I doubt anyone would go for it, because at any time during the romance scene, she could revert back to her older self and you'd be too far along to quit doing the deed.

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LPPrince wrote...

Flemeth as a love interest? I doubt anyone would go for it, because at any time during the romance scene, she could revert back to her older self and you'd be too far along to quit doing the deed.

Critical mission failure.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

She's a thousand-year-old abomination, a shapeshifter who, according to legend (and according to the grimoire you give Morrigan) seduces mortal men in order to get herself more daughters. Her daughters are reputed to be able to kill men with fear.  She's both a seductress and a hag. She played up the hag aspect for the Warden, "Oh, never mind me, I'm just a crazy old bat who saved your life! Go on your quest and take my daughter with you! I'm sure nothing terrible could come from that..."  But just because the Warden only saw her as the hag, doesn't mean that's all she was...


Can we be completely confident that, of the human form and the dragon form, the human is the original?

Modifié par distinguetraces, 17 juillet 2010 - 06:19 .


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Because the thread got unlocked again I am reposting it here:
In the Wiki is a short story about a templar seeking Flemeth that claims that Flemeth can take the form of several different human women: Flemeth

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Thats the type of instance where its player knowledge not character knowledge. Your character would think he (or she...probably he) an attractive women but we as players know shes an evil dragon abomination type creature.

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GreenSoda wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Flemeth as a love interest? I doubt anyone would go for it, because at any time during the romance scene, she could revert back to her older self and you'd be too far along to quit doing the deed.

Critical mission failure.


I want a Critical Mission Failure reference in DA2.

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[edit: removed crude pun out of shame]

Modifié par distinguetraces, 17 juillet 2010 - 06:29 .


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@wittand thats a good little story but I could see it coming miles away haha. Is it fan written or was it a codex entry or something.

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distinguetraces wrote...

Can we be completely confident that, of the human form and the dragon form, the human is the original?


I would advise you that in any dealings with Flemeth, be confident of nothing.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

distinguetraces wrote...

Can we be completely confident that, of the human form and the dragon form, the human is the original?


I would advise you that in any dealings with Flemeth, be confident of nothing.


But nothing is something.

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DanteCousland wrote...

@wittand thats a good little story but I could see it coming miles away haha. Is it fan written or was it a codex entry or something.

The article was written more than a month before DA:O came out. It is from Bioware and was part of the promotion before launch of the game.

Modifié par Wittand25, 17 juillet 2010 - 06:27 .


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There must be a reason for her looking "Younger and more attractive" though. The last people saw of her was either

a) Killing her

B) Or having Morrigan join your party.



She didn't exactly look her best in either of those situations. I wonder what happened in between DAO and her meeting Hawke.

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DanteCousland wrote...

There must be a reason for her looking "Younger and more attractive" though. The last people saw of her was either
a) Killing her
B) Or having Morrigan join your party.

She didn't exactly look her best in either of those situations. I wonder what happened in between DAO and her meeting Hawke.


She could easily just take another form. That or she took over another person's body, like she planned to do with Morrigan.

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The real question is, is it Morrigans body she took over or just some poor unamed maiden...or maybe another daughter.