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[Wishpig]

In single player RPG's I have no problem with guys creating
girl characters. It's very different than a mmo, in a mmo your character is
YOUR avatar, it is how people see you... so I find guys playing girls as
being a little creepy in WoW or EQ. Obviously this is not the case in a single
player RPG.



However, I can't do it. I've tried to roll female characters from BG to DA:O.
But I dunno, I just couldn't get into them. I guess I need to identify with my
character, it's hard to do that when their opposite sex.



However, I did not have this problem at all in ME! With femshepard being fully
voiced I easily identified her as her own unique character. I saw her as I see
companions in games like DA:O and Kotor. She was her own character... if that makes
any sense. She had a set personality to me. Lol, I guess I can play a female
shepard for the same reasons that seem to be pissing much of this community.



It really helped me add replayibility to ME as well. I find it easiest to
replay a long RPG if I can make as radically different main characters as
possible. Something I had trouble with for the above reasons... when their not
voiced I need to be able to associate with them.



I'm just curious to see if anyone else is in the same boat as me.

Modifié par Wishpig, 17 juillet 2010 - 09:33 .

[andar91]

Wow, I'm the exact opposite. I'm male but I play mostly female characters. I play males to and slightly more than I used to, but I can easily get into a female character.



I can see how a voiced PC would help you get over this barrier; it's ironic since she not being "your character" helped as that's what's pissing everybody off. Personally, it makes little difference to me because I'm still the one controlling the character.

[errant_knight]

Wishpig wrote...



In single player RPG's I have no problem with guys creating
girl characters. It's very different than a mmo, in a mmo your character is
YOUR avatar, it is how people see you... so I find guys playing girls as
being a little creepy in WoW or EQ. Obviously this is not the case in a single
player RPG.



However, I can't do it. I've tried to roll female characters from BG to DA:O.
But I dunno, I just couldn't get into them. I guess I need to identify with my
character, it's hard to do that when their opposite sex.



However, I did not have this problem at all in ME! With femshepard being fully
voiced I easily identified her as her own unique character. I saw her as I see
companions in games like DA:O and Kotor. She was her own character... if that makes
any sense. She had a set personality to me. Lol, I guess I can play a female
shepard for the same reasons that seem to be pissing much of this community.



It really helped me add replayibility to ME as well. I find it easiest to
replay a long RPG if I can make as radically different main characters as
possible. Something I had trouble with for the above reasons... when their not
voiced I need to be able to associate with them.



I'm just curious to see if anyone else is in the same boat as me.

To me, this is as clear a statement as any as to the difference between playing in the first and thrid person. Unfortunately, it's a negative one. I think you can identify with a voiced character in the same manner that you might identify with a female character in a movies, someone who you have sympathy for, but isn't you. I suspect that being in the third person gives you the distance you need to be comfortable with a female character. While you're playing the game with them, they aren't you--you aren't being a female.

So, in this instance, being in the third person is a good thing for you. Conversely, if someone actually wants to feel like they are that character, not so good.

Modifié par errant_knight, 17 juillet 2010 - 09:41 .

[Fishy]

I can't identify myself to any female character.Be it Mass effect or dragon age or mmorpg .. I just feel weirdo .



Or the fact that i just stare at my PC ass when she run..

[errant_knight]

Suprez30 wrote...

I can't identify myself to any female character.Be it Mass effect or dragon age or mmorpg .. I just feel weirdo .

Or the fact that i just stare at my PC ass when she run..

That would be a little creepy if you were playing that you were her, given that it would be your own ass that you were admiring.

[Naughty Bear]

Is it so wrong to admire yourself?

[iTomes]

well ummm i usually played girls in DA1 (because i just wasn't able to create a male character that didn't look TOTALLY stupid) and wasn't able to do so in ME because of the voice....no idea why

[SDNcN]

Naughty Bear wrote...

Is it so wrong to admire yourself?

[Lord Gremlin]

iTomes wrote...

well ummm i usually played girls in DA1 (because i just wasn't able to create a male character that didn't look TOTALLY stupid) and wasn't able to do so in ME because of the voice....no idea why

Because female Shep sounds like an old lesbian?

[errant_knight]

iTomes wrote...

well ummm i usually played girls in DA1 (because i just wasn't able to create a male character that didn't look TOTALLY stupid) and wasn't able to do so in ME because of the voice....no idea why

You don't have to explain that to me. I couldn't get into playing either Shepard. I was very pleased and surprised with Dragon Age.

[Fishy]

Naughty Bear wrote...

Is it so wrong to admire yourself?

Being asexual i have no problem with that.
I just feel out of character when i play a girl.

[Daerog]

I can never imagine seeing a digital image on screen or a drawn character on a stat sheet as being "me" as I am not there, I am here. However, pretending to be that character is always fun, but it's still that character I developed, not me. So, I don't really have a problem rolling a female character, but I do play male characters more and usually play as male first.

The voice pretty much adds cinematic quality to the character and that's it from my view.

As to what's wrong with admiring yourself? Not much other than you can end up turning into a bunch of flowers if you stare at your reflection in a pool long enough and ignore the echoes of those who care for you. (story should be obvious, no cookie if you know it)

[Fishy]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

I can never imagine seeing a digital image on screen or a drawn character on a stat sheet as being "me" as I am not there, I am here. However, pretending to be that character is always fun, but it's still that character I developed, not me. So, I don't really have a problem rolling a female character, but I do play male characters more and usually play as male first.
The voice pretty much adds cinematic quality to the character and that's it from my view.
As to what's wrong with admiring yourself? Not much other than you can end up turning into a bunch of flowers if you stare at your reflection in a pool long enough and ignore the echoes of those who care for you. (story should be obvious, no cookie if you know it)

You won't convince me.

[C9316]

I almost never play as a female because I can't immerse myself into the fantasy world by playing as a female because I first have to get into the character I create; and it just feels odd as a girl because I'm not one.

[Naughty Bear]

I prefer playing as male based on my actual self, i end up having everyone hate me so i do the opposite with a female.

It is really weird when a male npc checks your female character's ass or starts flirting with you.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 17 juillet 2010 - 10:21 .

[Wishpig]

errant_knight wrote...

To me, this is as clear a statement as any as to the difference between playing in the first and thrid person. Unfortunately, it's a negative one. I think you can identify with a voiced character in the same manner that you might identify with a female character in a movies, someone who you have sympathy for, but isn't you. I suspect that being in the third person gives you the distance you need to be comfortable with a female character. While you're playing the game with them, they aren't you--you aren't being a female.

So, in this instance, being in the third person is a good thing for you. Conversely, if someone actually wants to feel like they are that character, not so good.

Bingo! Well said. I'm a firm beleaver that both third and first come with their own benefits and drawbacks.

I totally understand why people would be agianst it... and like I think I said in my OP, this is a benefit to me as opposed to others where it is the opposit.

[Merci357]

For me (as a male) it's far easier to play a female, just because I can build a character from "scratch"... With a male I'm always tempted to use my own traits, and project to much of my own attitude and personality on the character. However, I'm neither a saint nor a thug, and definitely no hero - with a female char I can easily roleplay these extreme positions. With a male I... just can't.
That it's nicer to look at "myself" finaly looking good is an added bonus...

[errant_knight]

Merci357 wrote...

For me (as a male) it's far easier to play a female, just because I can build a character from "scratch"... With a male I'm always tempted to use my own traits, and project to much of my own attitude and personality on the character. However, I'm neither a saint nor a thug, and definitely no hero - with a female char I can easily roleplay these extreme positions. With a male I... just can't.
That it's nicer to look at "myself" finaly looking good is an added bonus...

I know what you mean here. I can also play further away from myself if I'm playing a nonhuman. And...I have to admit a tendency to have Alistair go first. I figure he only worries about leading in a larger sense, not being the first one into a room full of monsters. He doesn't lack for courage.

[alaska the 1st]

I played as a female on my first play though of DA:O of this was about 7-8 tries with a male, I could never get past the first cut scene without thinking he looked stupid. First try with a female "Success".

being my first run though it became my favorite...oh well

[Gill Kaiser]

When I make female characters, I tend to roleplay them as having traits that I find attractive in women.

[filetemo]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

When I make female characters, I tend to roleplay them as having traits that I find attractive in women.

me too.

also, I normally play female characters, as they said if you're going to stare a butt for 50 hours, it better be a female one.

first playthrough roleplya female warden,s econd one project my avatar into the unstoppable warrior male hawke who saves the day and gets the girls

[Fangirl17]

Hmm Im really starting to get used to the idea of a voiced character. I dont really play as "me". My character is her own person. I like to think of it as writting a character for a story. I decide what he/she is thinking and what actions he/she takes. So as long as my character doesnt have a set personality(like Shepard did in ME) then Im fine with a voiced PC.



As to what gender I prefer to play. I mostly play females becuase I am female,but I play a male character every now and then.

[TMZuk]

Wishpig wrote...



In single player RPG's I have no problem with guys creating
girl characters. It's very different than a mmo, in a mmo your character is
YOUR avatar, it is how people see you... so I find guys playing girls as
being a little creepy in WoW or EQ. Obviously this is not the case in a single
player RPG.



However, I can't do it. I've tried to roll female characters from BG to DA:O.
But I dunno, I just couldn't get into them. I guess I need to identify with my
character, it's hard to do that when their opposite sex.



However, I did not have this problem at all in ME! With femshepard being fully
voiced I easily identified her as her own unique character. I saw her as I see
companions in games like DA:O and Kotor. She was her own character... if that makes
any sense. She had a set personality to me. Lol, I guess I can play a female
shepard for the same reasons that seem to be pissing much of this community.



It really helped me add replayibility to ME as well. I find it easiest to
replay a long RPG if I can make as radically different main characters as
possible. Something I had trouble with for the above reasons... when their not
voiced I need to be able to associate with them.



I'm just curious to see if anyone else is in the same boat as me.

I'm not in the same boat, but the explanation is simple:

Playing FemShep is a third-person experience. You control her by giving her orders, but she carries them out in her own manner. On top of that, in ME2 she is a man, disguised a s a woman. Except for the great acting provided by JH, Bioware did a horrible job at making a believable woman in that game.

DA1 and BG1 + 2 are first person-games, and thus much more intimate experiences. For some, it is hard playing the opposite gender when it gets that close.

I'm afraid that DA2 will be third person game as well, and therefore, just as the ME-games, a far more shallow experience, and I'm terrified that Bioware will do just as horrible a job with FemHawke, as they did with FemShep in ME2.

[Ladybright]

DaerogTheDhampir wrote...

I can never imagine seeing a digital image on screen or a drawn character on a stat sheet as being "me" as I am not there, I am here. However, pretending to be that character is always fun, but it's still that character I developed, not me. So, I don't really have a problem rolling a female character, but I do play male characters more and usually play as male first.
The voice pretty much adds cinematic quality to the character and that's it from my view.
As to what's wrong with admiring yourself? Not much other than you can end up turning into a bunch of flowers if you stare at your reflection in a pool long enough and ignore the echoes of those who care for you. (story should be obvious, no cookie if you know it)

That'd be rather narcissistic of myself, no?


I am rapidly warming to the idea of a voiced protagonist. I like both first and third person stories, but third person stories usually resonate longer for me. I play DAO as a third person story -- none of my characters are me, though some of my real life attitudes leak through in all my characters.

Actually, strike that, I am excited for DA2's voiced protagonist. I love to rp, and just because it is more limited does not mean I will not enjoy the options presented, especially if they are better than DAO's.

[Helena Tylena]

I'm an amateur writer and one of the most fun aspects is creating characters, both male and female. Usually when I play an RPG like Dragon age, I take some of these characters for a 'test run', meaning I base the looks and skills on the characters I write about, and pick choices based on their personalities. It's not perfect, but it's fun. And it detaches from the 'Yikes! I'm pretending I'm someone from the opposite sex! I feel dirty' feeling.