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[EmStar202]

I almost always play as girls. It's just easier because I am a girl. I find it funny you guys create your own characters, because on my first playthrough I seriouslly named the character my name and made the decisions based on what I would do. Is that creepy? Do you think? lol

[Ladybright]

No, not at all. My first character was a pretty blatant self-insert. Flashes of personality occasionally came through, though, making that character an awfully inconsistent mess.

[Altima Darkspells]

I can never really get into playing guys simply because of two reasons:



First, they all either end up as massively over-muscled wrestlers.



Or, second, the animations. I don't know why, where they get it, or it's just me, but some animations for guys walking/running out there just look off. Especially the ones where a guy looks like a broom's stuck up his backside.



This is in most video game media, by the way, not just DA. Obviously, it wasn't a problem way back when. Apart from, you know, only having Anomen versus Jaheira, Viconia, and Aerie. That still steams my vegetables to this day.

[Collider]

I am opposite. I'm male and it's easier to play non voiced female characters than voiced ones. It's ultimately not a big deal though.

[ninja0809]

For me it's the armor. If i play a warrior i mostly play males cuz they look more badass in heavy armor. If its a rogue i play female cuz they usually look more sexy in light armor hehe. Mages i go either way.

[errant_knight]

ninja0809 wrote...

For me it's the armor. If i play a warrior i mostly play males cuz they look more badass in heavy armor. If its a rogue i play female cuz they usually look more sexy in light armor hehe. Mages i go either way.

As a female player, mainly playing females, Armor makes a difference to me too, but not in the same way. No female wears rogue armor, unless it's a unisex mod. Having your chest exposed like that is ridiculous. Right now Leliana is wearing steel scale. No female wear splitmail. It look particularly bad. As my PC is usually a  warrior, she wears plate as soon as possible. I am deeply thankful that they don't run like they're advertising their wares, however.

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 juillet 2010 - 01:25 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

I always put her in heavy chainmail as it looks nice

[artsangel]

You have to remember that while the company is Bioware, two different teams are responsible for Mass Effect and Dragon Age. We may not have a "FemShep acts like Man" situation; the DA team might be better at distinguishing the two Hawke personalities.



And on the topic of playing genders, I typically play males unless a game has romance involved, then it just feels weird chatting up women, so in those games (ie pretty much everything of Bioware's) I prefer to play a female

[errant_knight]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I always put her in heavy chainmail as it looks nice

Heavy chainmail is good, too. I especially like the Dwarven veridium, in males and females.

[RPGmom28]

I'm a woman in real life. I have both male and female characters in most games. The truth is that when I play female characters I do feel more connected. When I play male characters, I tend to use character creation to make what I would consider "my ideal male" in looks. For male Shepard in Mass Effect, I use the default, because I find him attractive. Once I tried to make the ideal male looks for a male Shep, and he ended up looking like James Purefoy (who, btw, I do find attractive). In DA I take forever making male characters just how I like them to be. The only one I have right now is my male elf- the dwarf in my character list belongs to my husband, who is playing the game for the first time.

So, I get what you're saying in the character disassociation bit. Making my male characters good-looking and admiring the final product is a lot different than playing a female character and thinking, "What would I do in this situation?" That's generally what I do on my first runthrough of a game. The following ones are random character concepts.

[DPB]

artsangel wrote...

You have to remember that while the company is Bioware, two different teams are responsible for Mass Effect and Dragon Age. We may not have a "FemShep acts like Man" situation; the DA team might be better at distinguishing the two Hawke personalities.

I see this as being quite possible considering that three of DAO's writing staff were female - ME & ME2's were all male.

[Helena Tylena]

errant_knight wrote...

ninja0809 wrote...

For me it's the armor. If i play a warrior i mostly play males cuz they look more badass in heavy armor. If its a rogue i play female cuz they usually look more sexy in light armor hehe. Mages i go either way.

As a female player, mainly playing females, Armor makes a difference to me too, but not in the same way. No female wears rogue armor, unless it's a unisex mod. Having your chest exposed like that is ridiculous. Right now Leliana is wearing steel scale. No female wear splitmail. It look particularly bad. As my PC is usually a  warrior, she wears plate as soon as possible. I am deeply thankful that they don't run like they're advertising their wares, however.

I don't know. I quite like the dalish armour, for some reason.

[RPGmom28]

Here's a mod for Dalish Armor that covers the bare areas. It looks much better in the game.



http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=809

[Zjarcal]

Not exactly the topic the OP intended to discuss, but what on earth is creepy or weird about a guy playing with a female character in an MMO? I don't play MMOs so I really have no idea how does the MMO community "think", but the idea that the character they create is a self-portrait or something is ridiculous. It's a fantasy world, so boys will be girls, girls will be boys, and then someone else will be something in between...

Again, I don't play MMOs so maybe I don't know what the OP is talking about. Is it that if someone chooses a female character people with male characters will start hitting on you? THAT would be creepy... 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 18 juillet 2010 - 01:55 .

[soteria]

For me (as a male) it's far easier to play a female, just because I can build a character from "scratch"... With a male I'm always tempted to use my own traits, and project to much of my own attitude and personality on the character. However, I'm neither a saint nor a thug, and definitely no hero - with a female char I can easily roleplay these extreme positions. With a male I... just can't.

I'd say the same. Male characters always end up being variations of my own personality, while female characters tend to be more distinct and varied.

[Saibh]

soteria wrote...

For me (as a male) it's far easier to play a female, just because I can build a character from "scratch"... With a male I'm always tempted to use my own traits, and project to much of my own attitude and personality on the character. However, I'm neither a saint nor a thug, and definitely no hero - with a female char I can easily roleplay these extreme positions. With a male I... just can't.

I'd say the same. Male characters always end up being variations of my own personality, while female characters tend to be more distinct and varied.

It's extremely hard for me to make a female character evil, since I feel intensely guilty as they feel more in chord with myself than male characters. While my female characters can run the gamut of bad traits like greed, snobbery, bad temper, callousness, they rarely have malevolent traits. I have no qualm making my male characters evil, however.

[errant_knight]

I should note that it's a lot harder for me to feel in character playing a male when the character is voiced. It's a constant 'not me' reminder. I experience the same thing when playing a voiced female character, but not to the same degree. I know that's the topic of the thread , but we've kind of drifted away from that into playing the opposite gender more generally.

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 juillet 2010 - 03:56 .

[Saibh]

errant_knight wrote...

I should note that it's a lot harder for me to feel in character playing a male when the character is voiced. It's a constant 'not me' reminder. I experience the same thing when playing a voiced female character, but not to the same degree. I know that's the topic of the thread , but we've kind of drifted away from that into playing the opposite gender more generally.

To me, Shepard had a personality. All of the (three) dialogue options given reflected on that same, base personality. That's what made Shepard someone who wasn't me--which, for that game, I'm fine with. So long has Hawke can run the gamut of different personalities, I am pleased.

[Deviija]

I come at my games as a roleplayer first, RL individual last. I look at characters and think of the potential they have to build a narrative, what would be a most enjoyable experience to create within the theme and setting of the world, and to flesh out my characters story/backstory/daily life. I never come at decisions in cRPGs thinking, 'What decision do I wanna do?' To me, that is creepy. Playing as myself seems very alien and foreign. There needs to be a large disassociation fantasy and reality, when it comes to main characters, for me to enjoy a game.



This goes for the same with MMOs. I play characters that I enjoy and can make a story in my head about. MMOs are not about self-inserting yourself into the game via your avatar. That's like saying that if you play a buff warrior, then you must be a buff man IRL or else that's false advertising.

[kaispan]

Zjarcal wrote...

Not exactly the topic the OP intended to discuss, but what on earth is creepy or weird about a guy playing with a female character in an MMO? I don't play MMOs so I really have no idea how does the MMO community "think", but the idea that the character they create is a self-portrait or something is ridiculous. It's a fantasy world, so boys will be girls, girls will be boys, and then someone else will be something in between...

Again, I don't play MMOs so maybe I don't know what the OP is talking about. Is it that if someone chooses a female character people with male characters will start hitting on you? THAT would be creepy... 

Wow, I just got this urge to start rattling on about playing WoW but I just quit so maybe it's some kind of withdrawal thing. ^^ People are generally amused by my playing male characters (probably calling my blood elf "Bubblebabe" and stealing his pants didn't hurt x3). But yeah, I play male toons in MMOs but I can't handle it anywhere else--I love the roleplaying part of RPGs and I can't seem to get into male characters.

Totally agree with the OP though (just flipping genders ;D), MaleShep was easier for me to play than "my own" characters in DA. I really want to see the material and romances and everything from a different perspective, but none of them get very far... 

and this:

Saibh wrote...

It's extremely hard for me to make a female character evil, since I feel intensely guilty as they feel more in chord with myself than male characters. While my female characters can run the gamut of bad traits like greed, snobbery, bad temper, callousness, they rarely have malevolent traits. I have no qualm making my male characters evil, however.

My male characters are always evil. I can't play an evil female to save my life. Or finish a game with a male character. I think there may be a connection...

Deviija wrote...
This goes for the same with MMOs. I play characters that I enjoy and can make a story in my head about. MMOs are not about self-inserting yourself into the game via your avatar. That's like saying that if you play a buff warrior, then you must be a buff man IRL or else that's false advertising.

You can make a character that you haven't fleshed out as a RP individual without it being a physical representation of yourself. I can't role-play at all in MMOs. I'm hoping SW:TOR will change that, but mostly I get online with my friends so the character is just one I am "inhabiting" for the sake of hanging out with them. It is inserting me into the game, only if I want to play as a sexy blood elf with magical powers and broad shoulders and no personality outside of my over-usage of emoticons I'm pretty sure that's okay. He's just a placeholder. That I happen to enjoy oggling.

I don't really give a crap about the world or anything aside from the social aspect, which is why as soon as my friends quit playing WoW, so did I.

Modifié par kaispan, 18 juillet 2010 - 04:37 .

[Addai]

artsangel wrote...

And on the topic of playing genders, I typically play males unless a game has romance involved, then it just feels weird chatting up women, so in those games (ie pretty much everything of Bioware's) I prefer to play a female

I said this in a different thread, but romances are especially where I don't like the idea of a voiced PC.  It doesn't matter that my character is not really "me."  I can switch off the squick better if there's enough self-insertion for me to identify with my character.  When I played a male PC, it was definitely not the same.  I recall that I Esc'ed through the tent scene.  Just felt like, "I'll leave you two kids alone."  It's the same deal with a voiced PC, where I'm more removed from the character.

[Passivehate]

Suprez30 wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

Is it so wrong to admire yourself?

Being asexual i have no problem with that.
I just feel out of character when i play a girl.

Good to know that there are other asexuals here! 

Anywho, I have trouble playing male and female characters due to their voices. It makes it obvious that they aren't me when they obviously do indeed have a gender. <_<

[Saibh]

kaispan wrote...

and this:

Saibh wrote...

It's extremely hard for me to make a female character evil, since I feel intensely guilty as they feel more in chord with myself than male characters. While my female characters can run the gamut of bad traits like greed, snobbery, bad temper, callousness, they rarely have malevolent traits. I have no qualm making my male characters evil, however.

My male characters are always evil. I can't play an evil female to save my life. Or finish a game with a male character. I think there may be a connection...

I can, but only after playing good female characters at least three times. Male characters come way, way after the fact--especially for me in DA, since I felt like I was experiencing, for the first time, actually being a girl in game. It was intoxicating. As was Alistair.

I think I've played...one, out of maybe the nineteen times I've played that game. Finished, that is. I did it so I could see the Morrigan romance and the differences between the Leliana and Zevran romances. I've started plenty of other characters, I just never get around to finishing them. Right around the time I have to crawl through the Deep Roads.

[errant_knight]

Addai67 wrote...

artsangel wrote...

And on the topic of playing genders, I typically play males unless a game has romance involved, then it just feels weird chatting up women, so in those games (ie pretty much everything of Bioware's) I prefer to play a female

I said this in a different thread, but romances are especially where I don't like the idea of a voiced PC.  It doesn't matter that my character is not really "me."  I can switch off the squick better if there's enough self-insertion for me to identify with my character.  When I played a male PC, it was definitely not the same.  I recall that I Esc'ed through the tent scene.  Just felt like, "I'll leave you two kids alone."  It's the same deal with a voiced PC, where I'm more removed from the character.

Lol! I know what you mean, and I don't know why it feels so different than, say, a movie, but it does, male or female PC. Voices make me feel like I'm intruding on someone else's intimate moment. Gah! Sorry! I didn't know you were... I'll just let myself out--sorry!

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 juillet 2010 - 06:11 .

[Endurium]

I don't really care for my characters to be voiced; and given the option will even disable their battle cries most times (BG2 male #2 being an exception because I love it so much). Also I generally only play male characters if there are female romance options (singleplayer only).



I don't care about socializing in MMOs (I'm not there to find a life-mate) so I play whatever I want. Since males tend to be a bit ugly and most developers tell us to create characters we can stand to look at for a long time, I usually roll female. When there's no NPC romance to worry about, I can go from 1 to (level cap) without a hitch. I find the only people mistaking me for female are those new to MMOs. Everyone else knows not to assume based on avatar. I've met quite a few guys who prefer to play females, and for stalking/harrassing reasons, male characters often have female players behind them. One cannot assume in an MMO or other online game.