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[andar91]

They mentioned that the new art style focuses on angularity and negative space. The negative space part was certainly reflected in those screenshots, but the question is, do those screenshots reflect the entire game? I doubt the whole game will be that way, but apparently they want a more open feel to it. It does feel too barren to me at this point, but those screenshots might be a bad example.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

the graphics are still prototype like its on early stage im sure it will slightly be better in 7 months

P.S. DA2 graphics is better than DAO graphic

[Rubbish Hero]

Yea graphics suck balls, doesn't help it was pimped as looking "super hot" with more emphasis on "technology" than the gameplay itself. Seems the other way around.

[Games4ever]

errant_knight wrote...

Noobius_Maximo wrote...

Judge the graphics when the comes out, and not when it is still in its early stages.

They put them out to advertise the changes. Why shouldn't we judge them now? They said 'Wow! Better graphics!' and gave us those. They didn't say, 'Here's an early draft.' They may be, but you can't go on about how awesome they are and then not expect a reaction if they aren't.

I actually think that this guy or girl talks a lot of sense here

[errant_knight]

Noobius_Maximo wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

I dont think the graphics worse. Its just a different type of graphic.

Really? Environment textures look really low-res.

I gotta admit, I'm not being so technical. Well, okay, I am a little. That kind of plasticy look is a pet peeve of mine, but I'm mostly talking about the design side of things. I just think it's stylistically awful.

[errant_knight]

GreyWarden36 wrote...

the graphics are still prototype like its on early stage im sure it will slightly be better in 7 months
P.S. DA2 graphics is better than DAO graphic

I couldn't disagree more. While the graphics weren't cutting edge, they were an excellent backdrop for the action--which is worlds more important anyway. The DA2 graphics are distractingly weird, not something that helps with immersion.

[Roland Aseph]

This explains a lot.:

http://www.eurogamer...nterview?page=2

"We changed art directors. The art director on Dragon Age 2 is the same guy who was the art director on Jade Empire. "

It's not that the screens that we've been shore are from such an "early" build that it looks that way....it's because THAT'S the art direction they decided to go with...to give DA a more distinct look.

"There was some commentary that Dragon Age could have been more visually unique. We said, 'Okay! You want visually unique? Here's visually unique.' It's usually a combination of things that drives our decision-making. It's not like we're designed by committee. Nor are we beholden to fan and press feedback. But we really do look at all that stuff."

Well I hope you're reading the forums right now because making the game look like a cartoon is not the distinct visual I think most fans want!

So everyone "trying" to explain away the scenes as incomplete or Alpha...I'm very afraid that these are simple an example of what they decided to do withe the art style.

This is the way it looks....

Modifié par Roland Aseph, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:40 .

[ankuu]

guys you are complaing over and over again about something that is in an alpha stage.....not even one single game starts with great graphics....in 8 months everything will be better, i trust them.



they gave us dragon age 1, which is the only game that kept me 100 hours or more attached to the pc. i lived with my char and i enjoyed every single thing, even the graphics!

[errant_knight]

ankuu wrote...

guys you are complaing over and over again about something that is in an alpha stage.....not even one single game starts with great graphics....in 8 months everything will be better, i trust them.

they gave us dragon age 1, which is the only game that kept me 100 hours or more attached to the pc. i lived with my char and i enjoyed every single thing, even the graphics!

Yes, so did I, that's why I'm saying they shouldn't have messed with it. Tweaks and texture quality are one thing, a wholesale stylistic revamp of a known world is something else entirely. And I also said that it may improve, but that what they showed us as an example of the 'better graphic', isn't.  Trust isn't the issue. It's just a fact.

[Roland Aseph]

ankuu wrote...

guys you are complaing over and over again about something that is in an alpha stage.....not even one single game starts with great graphics....in 8 months everything will be better, i trust them.

they gave us dragon age 1, which is the only game that kept me 100 hours or more attached to the pc. i lived with my char and i enjoyed every single thing, even the graphics!

Art "style" is simply that...the style. 

That doesn't just simply change.  Slapping on higher rez textures doesn't change it either. This is the way they want it to look.

Go look at Jade Empire and imagine now that style in DA (and it seems even more stylized like a 3D flash game and Samurai Jack + Plastic blood splashed everywhere)  and there you go....

This has "fail" literally painted all over it

[Merci357]

errant_knight wrote...

ankuu wrote...

guys you are complaing over and over again about something that is in an alpha stage.....not even one single game starts with great graphics....in 8 months everything will be better, i trust them.

they gave us dragon age 1, which is the only game that kept me 100 hours or more attached to the pc. i lived with my char and i enjoyed every single thing, even the graphics!

Yes, so did I, that's why I'm saying they shouldn't have messed with it. Tweaks and texture quality are one thing, a wholesale stylistic revamp of a known world is something else entirely. And I also said that it may improve, but that what they showed us as an example of the 'better graphic', isn't.  Trust isn't the issue. It's just a fact.

This scanned picture of default Hawke and Bethany looked quite well, but most of the released screenshots so far were disappointing. While we both agree this isn't improved graphics, quite the contrary, evidently someone will like them. You can argue about looks, but it's just opinion, not fact.

Modifié par Merci357, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:49 .

[Roland Aseph]

Well a "majority" of opinion creates something larger....



I wish we could do Polls on this forum

[Jigero]

You guys do know that's pre-alpha footage with out dynamic lighting, or high quality renders? it's not gonna look like that at all when it's done.

[errant_knight]

Jigero wrote...

You guys do know that's pre-alpha footage with out dynamic lighting, or high quality renders? it's not gonna look like that at all when it's done.

If we were only talking about lighting and rendering, that would make a difference, but we aren't. And that doesn't invalidate the point that if you are going to make a point of how much better something is, maybe the first thing you show people should be, you know, better.

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:59 .

[Games4ever]

Roland Aseph wrote...

ankuu wrote...

guys you are complaing over and over again about something that is in an alpha stage.....not even one single game starts with great graphics....in 8 months everything will be better, i trust them.

they gave us dragon age 1, which is the only game that kept me 100 hours or more attached to the pc. i lived with my char and i enjoyed every single thing, even the graphics!

Art "style" is simply that...the style. 

That doesn't just simply change.  Slapping on higher rez textures doesn't change it either. This is the way they want it to look.

Go look at Jade Empire and imagine now that style in DA (and it seems even more stylized like a 3D flash game and Samurai Jack + Plastic blood splashed everywhere)  and there you go....

This has "fail" literally painted all over it

Maybe he should just go back to his poker tournament,maybe that's what he does best!
this new kid style wont sell to me

[artsangel]

I'm honestly not too concerned about the environment. The characters and magic effects look pretty good. If you'll notice, EVERY screenshot released so far has been of the exact same scene. This means it's the ONLY environment that was at a stage where it was presentable as a screenshot (otherwise, you would expect them to give us some more variety, and showcase a few environments). If this is the case, then I am willing to bet changes and enhancements are still to be made.

Either that, or by "super hot" they were being quite literal, and meant "dry desert"

I'll be checking out the preview at SDCC, so it'll be interesting to see how it looks in motion at this stage.

Modifié par artsangel, 18 juillet 2010 - 01:03 .

[Hollingdale]

The new graphics were clearly superior to the old ones. You might not like the style but you can't deny that the new graphics are technically and functionally superior.

[errant_knight]

Hollingdale wrote...

The new graphics were clearly superior to the old ones. You might not like the style but you can't deny that the new graphics are technically and functionally superior.

 From what we've seen so far, I absolutely can.

[errant_knight]

Games4ever wrote...

Roland Aseph wrote...

ankuu wrote...

guys you are complaing over and over again about something that is in an alpha stage.....not even one single game starts with great graphics....in 8 months everything will be better, i trust them.

they gave us dragon age 1, which is the only game that kept me 100 hours or more attached to the pc. i lived with my char and i enjoyed every single thing, even the graphics!

Art "style" is simply that...the style. 

That doesn't just simply change.  Slapping on higher rez textures doesn't change it either. This is the way they want it to look.

Go look at Jade Empire and imagine now that style in DA (and it seems even more stylized like a 3D flash game and Samurai Jack + Plastic blood splashed everywhere)  and there you go....

This has "fail" literally painted all over it

Maybe he should just go back to his poker tournament,maybe that's what he does best!
this new kid style wont sell to me

Now, now.... It's one thing to criticize a product, another thing to get nasty.... Let's keep it civil.

[love bump]

christ people its an early build of the game ... it will look much better closer to release and it doesn't look too bad for this early in..

[Roland Aseph]

Jigero wrote...

You guys do know that's pre-alpha footage with out dynamic lighting, or high quality renders? it's not gonna look like that at all when it's done.

No dev or any other BW official has ever said that the screens are Pre-Alpha, Alpha, Beta or anything...that's the "go-to" excuse used by people who "hope" that's the case.

Imo they wouldn't have released the scenes to hype the game IF they weren't too far off the final mark!!!

[Rubbish Hero]

Hollingdale wrote...

The new graphics were clearly superior to the old ones.

I don't agree, look about the same, if not alittle worse.

[Games4ever]

errant_knight.. You're right,poker is nasty





Love bump, No it's a new style

[Dummkopf]

Hollingdale wrote...

The new graphics were clearly superior to the old ones. You might not like the style but you can't deny that the new graphics are technically and functionally superior.

I agree, I think they already look better than the 360 version of DA:O.

[love bump]

Games4ever wrote...

errant_knight.. You're right,poker is nasty


Love bump, No it's a new style

tis a new style but its clear its an early bulid of the game..

Modifié par love bump, 18 juillet 2010 - 01:27 .