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[Roland Aseph]

Looking at crappy screenshots released this late in the dev cycle and yet believing that somehow everything is going to look different and better...that makes sense.

Modifié par Roland Aseph, 18 juillet 2010 - 06:42 .

[Games4ever]

Majin Paul wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

The Witcher looks stunning.. DA2 looks like Donald Duck :-)


slimgrin.. But I'm honest

Basing your opinion on a games graphics based on a small amount of screenshots, that makes sense.

If a small amount of screenshots is all I got, what else can I do then?

If you think the finished game will look much different from these screenshots,then you are in for a big disappointment, unless of course you like cartoony looking games

[andar91]

Khavos wrote...

andar91 wrote...

David Gaider said that in his opinion, the graphics already look better than they do in those screenshots.

I'm sure the point's already been addressed, but would you really expect him to come out and say, "In my opinion, the graphics in this new game I'm trying to sell you don't look as good as the graphics in the game I already sold you," if that were the case?

Also, The Witcher 2 looks incredibly good.  I'm starting to realize that, for all their bugs and quirks, the guys in Eastern Europe are making way better games than the AAA developers over here.  Not to mention that TW beats the snot out of DA in terms of "dark fantasy."  And that's not counting the gratuitous sex. 

You're correct, but your point works both ways. Would he come out and blatantly lie to us? He hasn't done it yet (not that I've seen, anyway).

[Wyndham711]

I feel BioWare is going to get some very stiff competition with all their big RPGs during the next year or so. Guild Wars 2 already seems much more revolutionary than TOR in gameplay terms, and it also sports the same strong story focus TOR does, but without the needless amounts of VO. All that without a subscription fee. Deus Ex 3 is looking extremely solid, and will almost certainly give the Mass Effect franchise a run for its money in the scifi rpg department. And Witcher 2 already looks much more formidable than DA2 when it comes to graphics. I feel this kind of strong, direct competition hasn't been around in years. BioWare can't start cutting corners now if they want to remain on top of the story focused RPG hill. And those released screenshots give me little hope in that regard.

[Games4ever]

I don't think this David Gaider lie.. I think it will look more(for some better) cartoony when comes out

[Khavos]

andar91 wrote...

You're correct, but your point works both ways. Would he come out and blatantly lie to us? He hasn't done it yet (not that I've seen, anyway).

I don't see why not...I mean, they continue to insist that ME2 is an RPG, after all.

Either way, marketing and PR aren't going to make the graphics any better, and it doesn't seem like DA2 has a prayer of competing in that department with pretty much anything coming out around the same time, save maybe a Flash game.

The Witcher 2's getting my money, that's for sure.  The game looks incredible, it's developed for PC first, and it does dark fantasy better than anything else out there.  All things very worthy of support.  

[errant_knight]

Khavos wrote...

andar91 wrote...

You're correct, but your point works both ways. Would he come out and blatantly lie to us? He hasn't done it yet (not that I've seen, anyway).

I don't see why not...I mean, they continue to insist that ME2 is an RPG, after all.

Either way, marketing and PR aren't going to make the graphics any better, and it doesn't seem like DA2 has a prayer of competing in that department with pretty much anything coming out around the same time, save maybe a Flash game.

The Witcher 2's getting my money, that's for sure.  The game looks incredible, it's developed for PC first, and it does dark fantasy better than anything else out there.  All things very worthy of support.  

 I have zero desire to play Witcher2, but...if the new Fallout comes out about the same time, and I haven't found a new job, I'm going to have to make a choice.

[Kalfear]

errant_knight wrote...

Khavos wrote...

andar91 wrote...

You're correct, but your point works both ways. Would he come out and blatantly lie to us? He hasn't done it yet (not that I've seen, anyway).

I don't see why not...I mean, they continue to insist that ME2 is an RPG, after all.

Either way, marketing and PR aren't going to make the graphics any better, and it doesn't seem like DA2 has a prayer of competing in that department with pretty much anything coming out around the same time, save maybe a Flash game.

The Witcher 2's getting my money, that's for sure.  The game looks incredible, it's developed for PC first, and it does dark fantasy better than anything else out there.  All things very worthy of support.  

 I have zero desire to play Witcher2, but...if the new Fallout comes out about the same time, and I haven't found a new job, I'm going to have to make a choice.

See, I gotta admit I didnt know about TW2, but those Screen shots were good enough for me to do some research on topic and IM REALLY STOKED about TW2 now, far more then I am about DA2.

So far 3 games come out in first quarter od 2011 and they go

Deus Ex 3 (looks and sounds amazing)
The Witcher 2 (REALL MATURE fantasy from looks of things)
and then maybe on steam when its dropped below $40.00
Dragon Age 2

Only so much money to spend on games and have to go where I think developers developing for my style of play!

Personally I think Biowares going to take a large sales hit on DA2 and ME3 and suddenly realize us old RPGs were kinda important to their bottom line after all.

[Aradace]

Im not usually one to be a "graphics ****" but, jesus christ that is horrid. If they go with anything even remotely like those screens in the final product, Im not even going to so much as rent the bloody game lol. Crossing my fingers and hoping that this is either some kind of sick joke...Or these are merely "concept" scetches or something >.>

Oh, and Fallout: New Vegas comes out in October....19th to be precise if memory serves...So I hope that answers THAT question 

Modifié par Aradace, 18 juillet 2010 - 06:43 .

[Bryy_Miller]

errant_knight wrote...

Khavos wrote...

andar91 wrote...

You're correct, but your point works both ways. Would he come out and blatantly lie to us? He hasn't done it yet (not that I've seen, anyway).

I don't see why not...I mean, they continue to insist that ME2 is an RPG, after all.

Either way, marketing and PR aren't going to make the graphics any better, and it doesn't seem like DA2 has a prayer of competing in that department with pretty much anything coming out around the same time, save maybe a Flash game.

The Witcher 2's getting my money, that's for sure.  The game looks incredible, it's developed for PC first, and it does dark fantasy better than anything else out there.  All things very worthy of support.  

 I have zero desire to play Witcher2, but...if the new Fallout comes out about the same time, and I haven't found a new job, I'm going to have to make a choice.

My financial choice will be simple: eat food or die playing DA2.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 18 juillet 2010 - 06:43 .

[RogueWriter3201]

I'm a tad bit blown away by the almost incomprehensible belief that the screen shots shown thus far are being considered "Final Product" examples of Dragon Age 2's current Engine. Both in the Game Informer article, as well as articles and posts abroad, it's been made clear in the text headings or review articles that the screen-shots stem from early development, i.e. early Alpha game-play. I've seen some point out that given how late in the development cycle the screen shots were taken that it would be impossible to change anything; however, as the GI article and other sites have pointed out, again, these shots are alpha stock, as such they were not taken recently. Remember, promotion plans get put together months if not a year or more in advance once basic premise and concept looks are established. These were likely some of the first engine/gameplay renderings to come out of BioWare studios and as such these were selected to go to print for promotional distributuion.

But, to consider these the Final look of the game is just...I can not wrap my head around even the notion that someone who has paid attention even remotely to the development cycle of *any* BioWare title (hell, any game) would make the assumption or take someone's elses at face value. If one goes back to the very first screen-shots for Dragon Age Origins that appeared in Gamepro back in 2002 it looks *nothing* like the DAO we know. And even though DAO had a longer *cook* time than Dragon Age 2 (transitioning 2 consoles), what we've seen thus far follows a familar pattern. Early concept and alpha production footage, than, as we edge closer to the months before release, we get the Real screen-shots. The shots released thus far have been to permit us to garner just a small sense of where BioWare's art team and devs would like to go with the look of the game. To me, it all looks very promising and we aren't even close to the final product.

[Khavos]

glenboy24 wrote...

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Yeah...those The Witcher 2 screenshots are alpha as well, by the way.

[Kalfear]

Khavos wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...

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Yeah...those The Witcher 2 screenshots are alpha as well, by the way.

hehe, I looked up the Witcher 2 trailer (its also out with ingame graphics unlike DA2) and WOW!

Everything about that game looks and sounds amazing, like the type of game I been waiting for!
And no freaking fade to black or jump around in your underwear romance sceens either.

[Grommash94]

Meh. I have no interest in the Witcher 2. Don't like that sort of gameplay.



Heck, good graphics have never actually meant that a game would be awesome. Take AoC or Aion for example.

[Games4ever]

Khavos wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...

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Yeah...those The Witcher 2 screenshots are alpha as well, by the way.

And they don't look cartoony either, more mature

Modifié par Games4ever, 18 juillet 2010 - 07:06 .

[Kalfear]

Grommash94 wrote...

Meh. I have no interest in the Witcher 2. Don't like that sort of gameplay.

Heck, good graphics have never actually meant that a game would be awesome. Take AoC or Aion for example.

Oh I know, just the graphics got me to look into game some!

Me like what me see
Actual MATURE setting
its open world like Oblivion (meh) but appearently has the content Oblivion and Fall Out 3 lack.

Going to see if Steam has original game and give that a try first

Modifié par Kalfear, 18 juillet 2010 - 07:08 .

[Khavos]

Grommash94 wrote...

Meh. I have no interest in the Witcher 2. Don't like that sort of gameplay.

Heck, good graphics have never actually meant that a game would be awesome. Take AoC or Aion for example.

I would say that good graphics mean an awesome game rather more often than crappy graphics mean an awesome game. 

But TW2 doesn't have good graphics, it has amazing graphics.  It also has a dev team who realize that "dark fantasy" refers to more than the colors used in art design. 

[Elvis_Mazur]

From those pics, it is definitely worse than DA1. But give some time, they have time to improve the graphics.

[Games4ever]

PetrySilva wrote...

From those pics, it is definitely worse than DA1. But give some time, they have time to improve the graphics.

 Don't actually think it has so very much to do with the graphics,think it has more to do with the style 

So yeah, maybe a better looking cartoony style

[Bryy_Miller]

You know, I really can't get into all of this Witcher tomfoolery. Oh noes, another game is using a different graphics style. What's next? We're going to compare Mario and Sonic? I mean, both were action-adventure platformers.

[Games4ever]

It's just,adult people likes more realistic style,kids like another style



that's what I believe, I may be wrong

[Bryy_Miller]

Games4ever wrote...

It's just,adult people likes more realistic style,kids like another style

that's what I believe, I may be wrong

This is such a flawed statement. Do you also think only kids go to animated movies?

[Games4ever]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Games4ever wrote...

It's just,adult people likes more realistic style,kids like another style

that's what I believe, I may be wrong

This is such a flawed statement. Do you also think only kids go to animated movies?

It's like that for myself and those I know and many I read about, of course there are many adults with a childish mind, I'm just not one of them, it turns me off if it's cartoony

[Games4ever]

Would actually prefer that graphics were the same as in the first game than this style if it was my choice