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[TJPags]

Well, okay then - she a shapeshifter . . . I guess that explains it (doesn't mean I like the explanation, but I can't argue with it . . . .)

[BlackStallion]

heres a thought Morrigan says in which hunt that flemeth isn't what she appers to be she gose on to say I was wrong so very wrong she's not even human(if you can beleive any thing Morrigan says)and right now I'm tn frount of flemonth and she does not appear to have an ageder of her own she dose however want you and Alistair to gather your army and fight the Blight as it has always been the Grey Wradens duty to do soand she told Alistair that she feels sorry for his loss in Duncan but your grif must come later duty must come now as mother always saidshe also said that she has magic and my morrigan is as cunning as aroot lizard she also just said that I give you that witch I value most in this world I do this because you must succeed it just dosen't sound like shes out to get you or morriganin fact it dosen't sound like she has an agender at all

[Dayshadow]

TJPags wrote...

Dayshadow wrote...

TJPags wrote...

That said, have we had an explanation yet for why she looks different in the early part of DA2 than she did in DA:O - besides the new engine/graphics, that is?

She's a shapeshifter.  They don't really have to explain it.

They never explained why hurlocks and genlocks are porportional to their non-tainted equivalents, but sharlocks and ogres are so different.  At least ogres are humanoid. Sharlocks are built like werewolves from head to toe.

Well, no, I don't think "she's a shapeshifter" simply does away with it - unless her shapeshifting is significantly different than the way morrigan explained it.  Remember, she said she couldn't take the form of another person, or otherwise appear differently as a human.  So, unless Flemeth works differently - and hey, she might, if her true form isn't human - "she's a shapeshifter" doesn't cut it as an explanation, for me.

And what the hell is a Sharlock???  New Darkspawn for DA2, or is my memory from DA:O that bad?

Sharlock is the proper term for Shrieker.

I recall Morrigan saying she saw no purpose to taking another human form because she was a human and gained nothing from it. I do not recall her saying she couldn't shapechange into another human form. Granted, I don't think she knows HOW to, but she COULD if bothered to learn that particular spell. The idea that she can become a bear or eight legged spider, but be physically incapable of making herself look like a different human is absurd.

And Flemeth can become a dragon. Morrigan cannot. Morrigan's limits are not Flemeth's.

Modifié par Dayshadow, 13 décembre 2010 - 06:21 .

[Maria Caliban]

Alexander1136 wrote...

I'm curious as to how flemeth acquired another body.. considering i slaughtered her on her front porch

The beginning of the game happens during the fall of Lothering. Before you can kill Flemeth.

[Super_Fr33k]

As other people pointed out, Morrigan's explanation as to why she can't shapeshift into humans heavily implies it's a lack of will more than ability. She rationalizes it being a useless ability simply because learning it would force her to try to understand people, rather than make reductionist judgments of them. Didn't even need Gaider confirmation for that one.



To return to the old OP premise of Morrigan vs. Flemeth, I think this is probable, but it still needs to be established why Flemeth and Morrigan would be at odds (aside from the whole body-snatching thing). Both Morrigan and Flemeth resent Andrastrianism for its oppression of magic and ancient cultures and traditions, and both might desire power to loosen its grip on the world. As Flemeth is denied the god child no matter which path the Warden takes, my theory is that Flemeth needs the remaining old gods for whatever her plan is, and Morrigan must seek them to stop her. Flemeth's ultimate goal must be something so insanely ambitious and unnatural that it threatens Morrigan and whatever else she cares about.



Right now here's one idea I think could explain Flemeth. Let's assume she's one of the original Tevinter magisters that attempted to enter the Golden City, and suppose she played a unique role in whatever the magisters tried to do there, such that she became something entirely different from darkspawn. Perhaps she seeks to use the remaining Old Gods to re-enter it and undo the damage she's caused. Or, more diabolically, perhaps she seeks to re-enter it to seize enough power to supplant the Maker. Now that would be scary stuff.

[SDNcN]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Alexander1136 wrote...

I'm curious as to how flemeth acquired another body.. considering i slaughtered her on her front porch

The beginning of the game happens during the fall of Lothering. Before you can kill Flemeth.

Yes but David Gaider confirmed during one of his online chats at Pax that Flemeth will appear more than once in DA:2.

[upsettingshorts]

She's a shapeshifter and abomination who has lived for hundreds of years. She'll figure something out.

[EnforcerGREG]

Brockololly wrote...

EnforcerGREG wrote...
But before this footage I read reviews and they said "package" But seriously why draw attention to the word package if it was just a amulet. Also thats why I said initially but it could still happen if the player usses a imported DR save. It's just more likely it's the amulet.

Oh, I remember people saying Flemeth said package. Maybe its  a difference in importing versus not, like you said? Or maybe the package reference was in an older build?

Just relised can't be the god child becuse at this point the bligh tstill looks to be in full swing meaning the ritual hasn't been performed and the archdemon hasn't been killed.

Thats my theroy in tatters