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[angj57]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Jade empire is based on Chinese mythology, Dragon age is just vanilla fantasy, and despite the annoying music has no cultural ties to anything.

That's complete and utter crap. As I said in my other posts, the setting is completely interconnected with medival European history, it's not "vanilla" just because it is primarily based on the West.  If you pay any attention to the dialogue and codex, you will see references to the crusades, the fall of the Roman Empire, the wars between the Byzantines and Ottomans, middle-ages German history as the Anderfells, and more.

The difference is that the connections in Dragon Age are subtle, whereas the connections in Jade Empire are deliberately designed to seem "exotic" to Western audiences.

Modifié par angj57, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:32 .

[TheMufflon]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Jade empire is based on Chinese mythology, Dragon age is just vanilla fantasy, and despite the annoying music has no cultural ties to anything.

'Vanilla' fantasy in general, and Dragon Age in particular, is based around medieval Europe.

[Nayra]

I hope there's not any.

[NKKKK]

rivain apparentlyh has black people.

[C9316]

SuperMurk wrote...

I hope there's not any.

[Collider]

A more diverse set of human party members may be nice. Hardly on my list of priorities, though.

Modifié par Collider, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:35 .

[Collider]

Okay, this makes me wonder. Since we have a sister party member, will her skin color change based upon what the player chooses for Hawke? Or maybe they'll just do what they did with DA:O instead.

[Weiser_Cain]

So is Orlais, home of hooker assassins and the head of the church, France or Rome?

[C9316]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

So is Orlais, home of hooker assassins and the head of the church, France or Rome?

France of course.

[Weiser_Cain]

Collider wrote...

Okay, this makes me wonder. Since we have a sister party member, will her skin color change based upon what the player chooses for Hawke? Or maybe they'll just do what they did with DA:O instead.

I haven't seen anything like that since Deus EX.

[Collider]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Okay, this makes me wonder. Since we have a sister party member, will her skin color change based upon what the player chooses for Hawke? Or maybe they'll just do what they did with DA:O instead.

I haven't seen anything like that since Deus EX.

Fallout 3 had something like that. If you were a black PC, your dad was black too, etc.

[Weiser_Cain]

C9316 wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

So is Orlais, home of hooker assassins and the head of the church, France or Rome?

France of course.

France has never produced an accommodating person in it's entire history. Leliana disproves your 'Ferelden is Europe' theory.

Modifié par Weiser_Cain, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:43 .

[Weiser_Cain]

Collider wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Collider wrote...

Okay, this makes me wonder. Since we have a sister party member, will her skin color change based upon what the player chooses for Hawke? Or maybe they'll just do what they did with DA:O instead.

I haven't seen anything like that since Deus EX.

Fallout 3 had something like that. If you were a black PC, your dad was black too, etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that because he was barely in the game. Probably something about not being able to afford the voice actor.

[Rubbish Hero]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Black people didn't exist in medieval days.

Darkspawn don't exist in any time period, this is fantasy.

Darkspawn are probably based off Zulu warriors.  Have you seen that movie? Bloody good, millions of them, Michael Caine gets owned at the end. Thinks guns make him superior over people with  sheilds and sticks, but sheer logistics of numbers overcome them.  That's sort of like the Dragon Age story.

[C9316]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

So is Orlais, home of hooker assassins and the head of the church, France or Rome?

France of course.

France has never produced an accommodating person in it's entire history. Leliana disproves your 'Ferelden is Europe' theory.

This

[Weiser_Cain]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Black people didn't exist in medieval days.

Darkspawn don't exist in any time period, this is fantasy.

Darkspawn are probably based off Zulu warriors.  Have you seen that movie? Bloody good, millions of them, Michael Caine gets owned at the end. Thinks guns make him superior over people with  sheilds and sticks, but sheer logistics of numbers overcome them.  That's sort of like the Dragon Age story.

Unless you are trying to offend me you should probably stop now.

[SDNcN]

monkeycamoran wrote...

Looking at the description of Rivain, it's not like dark skinned people in Europe.

They're not members of the Chantry and follow a syncretic religion.

I'd still think they  would have a similar racial background to the other Thedosians rather than have their own seperate one similar to Africans. Antivans are geographically closest to the Rivaini and while Zevran is pretty dark-skinned, you can't say the same for characters like Ignacio and Cesar.

Master Ignacio


Cesar



Though thats all up in the air until we actually see characters from
there.

[C9316]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Black people didn't exist in medieval days.

Darkspawn don't exist in any time period, this is fantasy.

Darkspawn are probably based off Zulu warriors.  Have you seen that movie? Bloody good, millions of them, Michael Caine gets owned at the end. Thinks guns make him superior over people with  sheilds and sticks, but sheer logistics of numbers overcome them.  That's sort of like the Dragon Age story.

[Rubbish Hero]

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Black people didn't exist in medieval days.

Darkspawn don't exist in any time period, this is fantasy.

Darkspawn are probably based off Zulu warriors.  Have you seen that movie? Bloody good, millions of them, Michael Caine gets owned at the end. Thinks guns make him superior over people with  sheilds and sticks, but sheer logistics of numbers overcome them.  That's sort of like the Dragon Age story.

Unless you are trying to offend me you should probably stop now.

What are you talking about? Why do the darkspawn win at Ostagar? Why  does the grey warden need to unite people? It's because  A) Lemonade head was over-confident and People too complacent not taking blight seriously and not give a crap about Grey warden anymore.  it's pretty much Zulu with bits in between to stretch the game out.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:54 .

[Weiser_Cain]

C9316 wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

So is Orlais, home of hooker assassins and the head of the church, France or Rome?

France of course.

France has never produced an accommodating person in it's entire history. Leliana disproves your 'Ferelden is Europe' theory.

This

Bah, I was looking for pictures of weapons to show this was pure fantasy. All I got was Allistair naked. I think I also wanted to point out that commom soldiers running around with decent arms and armor also points to pure fantasy.

[Sigma Tauri]

SDNcN wrote...

monkeycamoran wrote...

Looking at the description of Rivain, it's not like dark skinned people in Europe.

They're not members of the Chantry and follow a syncretic religion.

I'd still think they  would have a similar racial background to the other Thedosians rather than have their own seperate one similar to Africans. Antivans are geographically closest to the Rivaini and while Zevran is pretty dark-skinned, you can't say the same for characters like Ignacio and Cesar.

What I mean is that they're culturally different. Race and skin tone are just superficial differences. The Rivaini are outlier to the rest of mainstream Thedosian culture. They might as well be the "foreigners" from another land because Rivain does seem foreign.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:55 .

[Weiser_Cain]

Rubbish Hero wrote...
What are you talking about? Why do the darkspawn win at Ostagar? Why  does the grey warden need to unite people? It's because  A) Lemonade head was over-confident and People too complacent not taking blight seriously and not give a crap about Grey warden anymore.  it's pretty much Zulu with bits in between to stretch the game out.

Two things.
1 You don't know what you're talking about.
2 You're comparing black people to monsters.

[C9316]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Black people didn't exist in medieval days.

Darkspawn don't exist in any time period, this is fantasy.

Darkspawn are probably based off Zulu warriors.  Have you seen that movie? Bloody good, millions of them, Michael Caine gets owned at the end. Thinks guns make him superior over people with  sheilds and sticks, but sheer logistics of numbers overcome them.  That's sort of like the Dragon Age story.

Unless you are trying to offend me you should probably stop now.

What are you talking about?
Why do the darkspawn win at Ostagar? Why
does the grey warden need to unite people? It's because  A) Lemonade head
was over-confident and People too complacent not taking blight seriously and not give a crap about Grey warden anymore.  it's pretty
much Zulu with bits in between to stretch the game out.

Right.....because the savage creatures that spread pestilence, terror, and death everywhere are based off a group of Africans. I totally see your point.

Modifié par C9316, 18 juillet 2010 - 12:57 .

[SDNcN]

monkeycamoran wrote...

What I mean is that they're culturally different. Race and skin tone are just superficial differences. The Rivaini are outlier to the rest of mainstream Thedosian culture. They might as well be the "foreigners" from another land because Rivain does seem foreign.

True, that does seem entirely plausible. If this is the case, due to their location my guess would be they came over by sea, possibly from where the Qunari originated -- migrating long before the Qunari began their own.

[saMoorai]

C9316 wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Black people didn't exist in medieval days.

Darkspawn don't exist in any time period, this is fantasy.

Darkspawn are probably based off Zulu warriors.  Have you seen that movie? Bloody good, millions of them, Michael Caine gets owned at the end. Thinks guns make him superior over people with  sheilds and sticks, but sheer logistics of numbers overcome them.  That's sort of like the Dragon Age story.

i lol'd