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[Addai]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

oh, ok. . .that makes more sense. I was wondering if your Alistair and Anora had magnets on them or something.

Egad, no.  The poor guy.  This is the look on his face when you suggest he marry Anora.  I did it to him once, but these days even if I set up the marriage I let him duel Loghain, Anora has her snit, and he is free to rule alone.  With his elven paramour at his side, of course.

[Sarah1281]

By 'snit' do you mean 'refusal to marry the man who murdered her father in front of her'? I really don't see how anyone can blame her for that. For other things, sure, but this? Mawkish or not, she's splattered with his blood at the time even.

[Morwen Eledhwen]

Addai67 wrote...

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

oh, ok. . .that makes more sense. I was wondering if your Alistair and Anora had magnets on them or something.

Egad, no.  The poor guy.  This is the look on his face when you suggest he marry Anora.  I did it to him once, but these days even if I set up the marriage I let him duel Loghain, Anora has her snit, and he is free to rule alone.  With his elven paramour at his side, of course.

Hahaha. . .I inadvertantly did a similar thing in re Loghain. . .I originally fought him myself in order to remove Alistair from the brutishness of it all in the middle of the Landsmeet, but then when Loghain surrendered to me I had Alistair deliver the final blow, simply because I knew he'd probably want to and not until later realizing that I'd pretty much guaranteed that Anora would never marry him. 

[errant_knight]

Addai67 wrote...

Time4Tiddy wrote...

It's actually quite interesting to try it both ways, as you get different conversations.
If you initiate sex with Alistair first, and before he's told you he loves you (70+ range), you get a different conversation post cutscene. I actually prefer this version because it's less gushy and seems more real. More along the lines of "Thank you for my first time being with someone I trust."

I prefer PC initiating, too.  For the reasons you said and because it's so cute to hear his shocked, "Join you?  In your TENT?"

Yes, Alistair, and not just to play with your action figures. 

Oh, and get this mod!

Were as I think the whole things a little flat if the PC initiates, and not half as charming, so it's hard to say which you'll prefer.

Heh, I always let Alistair fight Loghain and then kill him. I figure it's the best present you could give him, like Christmas and a birthday all rolled up in happy Loghain defeat.

Modifié par errant_knight, 21 juillet 2010 - 08:12 .

[Addai]

Sarah1281 wrote...

By 'snit' do you mean 'refusal to marry the man who murdered her father in front of her'? I really don't see how anyone can blame her for that. For other things, sure, but this? Mawkish or not, she's splattered with his blood at the time even.

What's the difference if Alistair just calls for his execution versus actually carries it out?  And I don't have a lot of sympathy for Anora when she'll throw her father under the bus if she thinks it will gain her the throne.  A little too late to start worrying about daddy's head at that point.

[Sarah1281]

Becoming his political opponent =/= being okay with him being killed. If Alistair just calls for the execution instead of doing it himself then he just want him dead while you're the one who makes the decision to do so. Do you feel she should not be willing to marry anyone if Loghain dies or be willing to marry her father's actual killer?

Edit: Also, I find the thought of 'giving' Loghain to Alistair to kill as if it's some sort of great gift to be endlessly creepy.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 21 juillet 2010 - 03:11 .

[errant_knight]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Becoming his political opponent =/= being okay with him being killed. If Alistair just calls for the execution instead of doing it himself then he just want him dead while you're the one who makes the decision to do so. Do you feel she should not be willing to marry anyone if Loghain dies or be willing to marry her father's actual killer?

Edit: Also, I find the thought of 'giving' Loghain to Alistair to kill as if it's some sort of great gift to be endlessly creepy.

Whoops! Used humor instead of being deadly serious, my bad! I'll try again, seriously....
It's as important to Alistair to kill Loghain as it is to the Cousland to kill Howe. I don't like to take that away from him. I see it as something he wants and needs to do himself, given that Loghain killed everyone he was close to as well as his actual brother. Taking the sword to execute Loghain yourself is no different than, say, Oghren taking the sword from you and killing Howe.

In terms of Anora, I think that's a pretty fine line between calling for his execution and doing it. Really, the two of you are doing it together, whichever kills him. It's pretty weird that she'll marry either one of them.

[Addai]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Becoming his political opponent =/= being okay with him being killed. 

In feudal justice, where high treason is at stake, it sure is.  I realize DAO brings modern quibbles into the mix, but that's still the bottom line.  Anora's not stupid and knows it very well.  She is perfectly willing to play with others' lives for her own ends, so again, no sympathy when it comes back to splatter her in the face.  Literally, of course.

As for whether or not she should marry Alistair if he's the one who actually carries out the execution- really I think something deeper underlies it.  Alistair dueling Loghain and executing him is the first glimpse for her that she is not dealing with a friendly pushover, but someone who might actually be king.  She can't have that as a consort.  IMO, of course.