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[thesuperdarkone]

 Seeing as DAO decisions are being imported, which decisions do you believe will be imported and what would be the results of those actions. An example would be if the anvil is preserved and Harrowmont is king, which will lead to DA2 having more expensive dwarf weapons due to the isolation of Orzammar and thus less dwarf items and some missing dwarf npcs

[thesuperdarkone]

Anyone else have any ideas?

[LMNOPMusic]

more then likely all of them

[thesuperdarkone]

And what possible consequences do you think those actions will have in DA2 LMNO?

[LMNOPMusic]

Like what the gossip in a town is or what characters youll get like morigan or flemeth being alive...

[Arttis]

everything you see in epilogue will probably be imported and mentioned in some way.

[Time4Tiddy]

I would guess all the trophy decisions will be factored in: which side you took on each of the main story quests, who ended up as ruler, which of the four endings took place. Probably also which origin the DAO protagonist took and how that story ended (for example, that the warden was a Mage and freed the tower, or was a dwarf and became a Paragon).



When I consider how they subtly worked dozens of minor conversation tweaks into DAO based on your origin, I'm sure they do something similar in DA2 that won't dramatically alter the main storyline.



In the interest of making a consistent game that is also accessible to those who didn't play DAO, I'm going to venture that impact on the DA2 storyline will be extremely minimal, and mostly take place in additional dialogue options, NPC conversations (like the Gossips in DAO), or asides from your companions.



For example, the fate of the Circle Tower in DAO will most likely have little to do with the persecution of mages in Kirkwall, but I could see this inquisitor character having some lines that could be slightly different like:



"We will never allow our mages the freedoms granted in Ferelden!"

or

"I would purge our Circle if I could, just as Ferelden did."



I'm obviously a terrible writer, but you can see how these minimal dialogue options would reflect the endgame of DAO w/o dramatically changing the DA2 story.

[errant_knight]

This is the one bright spot for me in what we've heard. Well, maybe that combat will stay the same for PC, but I keep hearing differnt things about that, so it's a maybe-bright-spot.

Rulers will certainly be imported. I think we may hear gossip or something like it about our Warden. Whether we had a hand in Flemeth's death is almost certain to make a difference, as might the Dark Ritual. I think that our actions in Orzammar regarding the Chantry, and how we dealt with the circle tower, may have an effect, as well, but that's a little more iffy.

I hope that the ones who say 'all of it' are right, but we didn't see much result from our import into Awakening, so I'm not as hopeful of that.

Modifié par errant_knight, 18 juillet 2010 - 05:24 .

[Daerog]

This whole imported decisions thing is a huge shock to me. I thought importing decisions was just going to be an ME thing, didn't expect BW to do the same thing with another game series. I wonder if everyone will expect it to be a staple in BW games now, ha!

On topic, I assume there will be codex entries, maybe some mentions here and there, maybe a different npc here and there, but I doubt it'll change the economy or any large part of the game. Maybe you can run across the thief who stole Vigilance if you can import Awakening as well.

[Vicious]

From GR, probably the big decisions. Rulers being mentioned, who killed the Archdemon, and I suppose the Dark Ritual. [though i think they won't be touching that one with a 10 foot pole.]

Having an actual EFFECT? Iffy. We've seen ME2, We've [some of us] read the dev diaries, we know how much of a PITA it is to do the whole 'decision import' stuff.

So I'm betting it will merely amount to - different gossip heard, and the state of the world during the beginning/end, where Hawke is already a badass and a good chunk of time has already passed in the lives of our Wardens, should they still be alive.


And, if they are off galavanting with Zevran, Leliana, or whomever, then our Wardens are  completely inconsequential to the grand plot and will probably not be mentioned at all.

Modifié par Vicious, 18 juillet 2010 - 05:29 .

[TheMadCat]

Well, since Flemeth seems like she'll be a major player in this game given how much they've paraded her around up to this point and the amount of time and lore given to her character, I'd say anything involving her and Morrigan will be a given (Perhaps the plot centers around those two in some sort of conflict with each otherand you chose a side and that leads to your "rise to power", the unholy abomination or Morrigan and her God child).

So things like the dark ritual and what you did with Flemeth when Morrigan asked you to confront her. I'm sure the major events will be noted such as who killed the Archdemon, who rules Feredan, and what happened to your Warden. Perhaps a few other little notes but I'm not expecting much more given what we've seen from past attempts at transferring our choices from one game to the next.

Modifié par TheMadCat, 18 juillet 2010 - 05:58 .

[SirGladiator]

I liked how it worked in ME2, they had a pretty good impact, I would like to see it again here. Like, if you helped the dwarf girl become a Mage-student, maybe she becomes the first Dwarf-Mage, or maybe she simply becomes one of the major leaders of the Circle, but something important. If your Warden ends up with Morrigan, she should be seen with Morrigan. If she ends up with Leliana, she should be seen with Leliana, etc. Since the imports would know what your Warden looked like there's no reason they can't show her alongside whoever she ends up with, in some sort of cameo role.



Of course other minor things are candidates also, such as mentioning Redcliffe, and whether its a thriving town or a totally destroyed town, referencing your decision. But stuff like that is super-minor, the real stuff is when you actually see people and things that you otherwise wouldn't, if not for something you did. Perhaps Anora could make an appearance if you made her queen (especially if you also married her), same for Allistair if you made him king. For Morrigan (and the Warden, if together) I could see her in a similar type of location that we found Flemeth in, sort of a small house in the middle of a forest sort of setting. Her and the Warden raising their child together (or Morrigan raising the child alone, depending on who your Warden ended up with). For Leliana, I could see her (and the Warden, if applicable) living somewhere nice, possibly Orlais, but somewhere nice.



They did it so well in ME2, hopefully it will be done just as well if not even better in DA2!

[thesuperdarkone]

Hopefully the import isn't terrible

[thesuperdarkone]

bump

[UberDuber]

Just the main ones I think.

[thesuperdarkone]

bump

[asaiasai]

TheMadCat wrote...

Well, since Flemeth seems like she'll be a major player in this game given how much they've paraded her around up to this point and the amount of time and lore given to her character, I'd say anything involving her and Morrigan will be a given (Perhaps the plot centers around those two in some sort of conflict with each otherand you chose a side and that leads to your "rise to power", the unholy abomination or Morrigan and her God child).

So things like the dark ritual and what you did with Flemeth when Morrigan asked you to confront her. I'm sure the major events will be noted such as who killed the Archdemon, who rules Feredan, and what happened to your Warden. Perhaps a few other little notes but I'm not expecting much more given what we've seen from past attempts at transferring our choices from one game to the next.

I hope not but as i am probably in the minority concerning the resolution of the whole god baby nonsence in that i have only 2 DR plays of  my 19.  If in the few plays where i have actually used Morrigan i have always sided with Flemeth so i hope thay can provide some plausable reason as to why it makes sense to support one over the other.

I suport killing Morrigan on sight in DA2.

Asai

[joriandrake]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

bump

don't bump the dead horse



also, I can't imagine what your problem is with Tali as companion, she is one of the best, and most useful tech users

[Saibh]

joriandrake wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

bump

don't bump the dead horse

I looked through his threads and he's really bizarrely protective over the threads he created, and insists that they get used over anyone elses and bumps them up if they're old.

Not good form, sir.

[Keithhy]

I'm guessing cameos, and if we're lucky, a big cameo. That's about it, though. It'd be cool to see my former Warden though, even if it were just him standing there, waving to a crowd.

[highcastle]

I hope at least some of the consequences to our decisions in Origins aren't immediately known. When ME2 came out, the import feature was heavily touted, and I have to admit I was looking forward to seeing the results of my actions in the first game. But it wasn't implemented well. It involved me running into a bunch of familiar faces, which made the galaxy seem smaller than it should. The same thing could happen with the DA franchise. You run into too many of the same people and it makes the world seem small.