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[Biserthebomb]

I will not buy this game if there are more children in it that I cannot decapitate

edit: Nevermind, the children in dragon age were ok. They can live... for now. Its those brats in fable and fallout that I really feel I need to kill, and it is unfair that they could be mean and abuse us physically or verbally but we couldn't kill them.

Modifié par Biserthebomb, 18 juillet 2010 - 08:53 .

[Satti1]

Biserthebomb wrote...

I will not buy this game if there are more children in it that I cannot decapitate

I hope you mean the children in awakening

[Dick Delaware]

Satti1 wrote...
The fact that it is a blank slate is what makes it potentially interesting, plus if there are no lasting consequences why have the choice to make a God Baby with morrigon or why have the Dwarf noble charcater have the option to have a child and take his place as a noble. This is already in the franchise so i am not bringing this out of left field so i cannot see why this is laughable in a serious RPG SINCE IT IS ALREADY AN OPTION IN THE FIRST GAME but instead of leaving it as is maybe in part 2 the player can do more just a thought.

The Morrigan choice does have lasting consequences - if you don't have the baby, she leaves your party. By not siding with her, that closes off one ending and means that either you or Loghain/Alistair might die. It's also complicated by the fact that the interaction with her might be different if she's a love interest, which makes the decision itself more interesting. Yeah, it's not world-changing, but there are certainly some consequences there.

The Dwarf Noble child thing was a minor side quest that you could avoid simply by not having sex with the Servant Caste groupies. It's only a very small part of the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you want is to make raising a child a more prominent gameplay element. 

What I'm saying is that making that a more prominent aspect of gameplay would be difficult to pull off well because of Hawke's status as an adventurer (how the hell would a guy/girl like that have time to raise a kid), how you'd introduce meaningful interaction with this hypothetical child ("Uh, don't do drugs, Billy!" +3 Good Points "Uh... stab that hobo in his sleep, Billy, Muhauaha!' +10 evil points) that strays from cliched good/evil dynamics, and that adding something like this would mean that you wouldn't see any consequences to your actions because by the time the story ends, the kid is ten and obviously still a child not making his own decisions. I'm not sure how you'd manage to create deep, meaningful interaction here or interesting role-playing opportunities. What am I going to do take the little one to go adventuring with Daddy Hawke?

So yeah, how would this add meaningful interaction into the game?

[Lord Gremlin]

Satti1 wrote...

Biserthebomb wrote...

I will not buy this game if there are more children in it that I cannot decapitate

I hope you mean the children in awakening

I think an option to decapitate anyone you wish is welcome.

[Satti1]

Dick Delaware wrote...

Satti1 wrote...
The fact that it is a blank slate is what makes it potentially interesting, plus if there are no lasting consequences why have the choice to make a God Baby with morrigon or why have the Dwarf noble charcater have the option to have a child and take his place as a noble. This is already in the franchise so i am not bringing this out of left field so i cannot see why this is laughable in a serious RPG SINCE IT IS ALREADY AN OPTION IN THE FIRST GAME but instead of leaving it as is maybe in part 2 the player can do more just a thought.

The Morrigan choice does have lasting consequences - if you don't have the baby, she leaves your party. By not siding with her, that closes off one ending and means that either you or Loghain/Alistair might die. It's also complicated by the fact that the interaction with her might be different if she's a love interest, which makes the decision itself more interesting. Yeah, it's not world-changing, but there are certainly some consequences there.

The Dwarf Noble child thing was a minor side quest that you could avoid simply by not having sex with the Servant Caste groupies. It's only a very small part of the game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you want is to make raising a child a more prominent gameplay element. 

What I'm saying is that making that a more prominent aspect of gameplay would be difficult to pull off well because of Hawke's status as an adventurer (how the hell would a guy/girl like that have time to raise a kid), how you'd introduce meaningful interaction with this hypothetical child ("Uh, don't do drugs, Billy!" +3 Good Points "Uh... stab that hobo in his sleep, Billy, Muhauaha!' +10 evil points) that strays from cliched good/evil dynamics, and that adding something like this would mean that you wouldn't see any consequences to your actions because by the time the story ends, the kid is ten and obviously still a child not making his own decisions. I'm not sure how you'd manage to create deep, meaningful interaction here or interesting role-playing opportunities. What am I going to do take the little one to go adventuring with Daddy Hawke?

So yeah, how would this add meaningful interaction into the game?

As far as being an adventurer he is champion by the time the story starts which means he is in a position of power already and by judging what bioware has said about rising from nothing to to become the most important charater in the story he will become much more. If he becomes King/Arl/Emperor he will no doubt have servents who can help take care of the child in his absence. As i said early if you choice to go down the route and have the child you can have the option of passing him/her to the chantery or even the qunari to be raised by there ideals. Since he is going to be such an important person to the story it does not seem to far off for him/her to have an heir which could effect the storyline in this game and even the next one.

[Satti1]

Lord Gremlin wrote...

Satti1 wrote...

Biserthebomb wrote...

I will not buy this game if there are more children in it that I cannot decapitate

I hope you mean the children in awakening

I think an option to decapitate anyone you wish is welcome.

I am all for having an open ended game where you can do as you like but decapitating children??? This seems like a stretch or someone has been watching a little to much truthtube

[Lady_Scarlett]

Satti1 wrote...

Malira wrote...

I think it
could be interesting, as long as it fits the game.

Well
it should but now that i think of it if one played as a female Hawk it
might be kinda of strange being pregnant and going into battle lol../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png

All I can see is F!Hawke's water breaking while they travel and having to give birth on the road:

LI: "Breath honey, breath!"
F!Hawke: "I am breathing, danggit! And you know what, this is your fault! IHATEYOU!" *Punches LI*

Also:

Arttis wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

If
Hawke has kids, they're going to be killed by the villain. Also, his
sister. And his dog too.

Also, it's going to be priceless if you
can put your kids in your inventory, Baldur's Gate style

Tell
your kids to hop in the backpack?
No fighting while your inside?
Eat
the left over monster guts?
Well it could work.

And this one:

Satti1 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

peacocke

Shale
now has you on a hitlist ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

Thank you very much, you made me laugh enough to cause the Pepsi I was drinking to come out of my nose.

:) YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY! :)

[Satti1]

Lady_Scarlett wrote...

Satti1 wrote...

Malira wrote...

I think it
could be interesting, as long as it fits the game.

Well
it should but now that i think of it if one played as a female Hawk it
might be kinda of strange being pregnant and going into battle lol../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png

All I can see is F!Hawke's water breaking while they travel and having to give birth on the road:

LI: "Breath honey, breath!"
F!Hawke: "I am breathing, danggit! And you know what, this is your fault! IHATEYOU!" *Punches LI*

Also:

Arttis wrote...

brain_damage wrote...

If
Hawke has kids, they're going to be killed by the villain. Also, his
sister. And his dog too.

Also, it's going to be priceless if you
can put your kids in your inventory, Baldur's Gate style

Tell
your kids to hop in the backpack?
No fighting while your inside?
Eat
the left over monster guts?
Well it could work.

And this one:

Satti1 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

peacocke

Shale
now has you on a hitlist ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

Thank you very much, you made me laugh enough to cause the Pepsi I was drinking to come out of my nose.

:) YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY! :)

I do my best lol

[RunNeonTiger]

The only way I would like Hawke to have children is that if, like they mentioned in the podcast, Cassandra and whoever else it is that is looking for Hawke eventually finds him/her with their love interest and a child or two. I don't really see it working well any other way.

[DrunkenMonkey]

Satti1 wrote...

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

what ARE you guys chatting about?

Read first post

i got sort of got lost at the at the picture and then people started talking about hentai . and i got cofused...

[Shepard Lives]

Eh, nope. My characters would never have children, that's for sure.

[TheShadowWolf911]

i would make my Hawke have thousands of illegitimate children, then have them wage war on each other to take the throne, causing a massive civil war with MASSIVE CARNAGE AND BLOODSHED! MY GOD THE VIOLENCE!!!

'wipes drool'

im sorry, i went a tad crazy thar.

[filetemo]

DA3: hawke's daughter vs god-child

[Rogue Unit]

Bioware can pull a Fable and make the child an annoying talk machine that wont leave you alone when you return home.

[StreetlightEagle]

I don't want my Hawke to have any children he has to raise. I just want him spreading his seed across the Free Marches so that one day his multitude of illegitimate children will come back to haunt him... That would be sweet.

[Satti1]

TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

i would make my Hawke have thousands of illegitimate children, then have them wage war on each other to take the throne, causing a massive civil war with MASSIVE CARNAGE AND BLOODSHED! MY GOD THE VIOLENCE!!!
'wipes drool'
im sorry, i went a tad crazy thar.

Now thats what i'm talking about this man has vision 

[Satti1]

filetemo wrote...

DA3: hawke's daughter vs god-child

My money on God child

[Satti1]

StreetlightEagle wrote...

I don't want my Hawke to have any children he has to raise. I just want him spreading his seed across the Free Marches so that one day his multitude of illegitimate children will come back to haunt him... That would be sweet.

haha only in the game though lol

[Inquisitor Recon]

Mike Hawke has 100 bastard children, but he isn't going to pay no child support.

[JergenKajaton]

I wouldn't be opposed to the option, as long as the game doesn't force Hawke to have kids.

For as long as I've been intellectually capable of thinking about such things, I've known that I never want to have kids of my own. I even managed to talk a doctor into performing a vasectomy on me a few years back, despite being young and single (apparently most doctors will refuse to do it unless you're married, middle-aged, and already have a kid or two). And my aversion to parenthood carries over into video games, too. I avoided it in Fable, for example. On every playthrough.

So, while I wouldn't particularly care if the option exists in DA2, I would definitely want the option to forego it.

[Satti1]

ReconTeam wrote...

Mike Hawke has 100 bastard children, but he isn't going to pay no child support.

Then the templars will swoop down on you and take all ur sovereigns after each and every battle or adventure u go on until u take care of ur own

[Satti1]

JergenKajaton wrote...

I wouldn't be opposed to the option, as long as the game doesn't force Hawke to have kids.

For as long as I've been intellectually capable of thinking about such things, I've known that I never want to have kids of my own. I even managed to talk a doctor into performing a vasectomy on me a few years back, despite being young and single (apparently most doctors will refuse to do it unless you're married, middle-aged, and already have a kid or two). And my aversion to parenthood carries over into video games, too. I avoided it in Fable, for example. On every playthrough.

So, while I wouldn't particularly care if the option exists in DA2, I would definitely want the option to forego it.

Safe to say ur Pro Choice lol

[mopotter]

Satti1 wrote...

Well since Hawk is going to be King and or Champion and the game takes place over a ten year period do you guys think that a romance with one of the characters of DA 2 could lead to a child/heir and you raising him/her over this period and would anyone like to see this put into the game? (considering he/she is not a grey warden and has a much better chance of having children and in DAO you could knock up morrigan this does not seem to far fetched to me)

As long as it's a choice I don't mind.   However, if it is a possibility, my Star Hawke is going to be seeing a mage about birth control.  

[mopotter]

Satti1 wrote...

Keithhy wrote...

I doubt that this will happen - Bioware isn't run by Peter Molyneux, after all - but it would be a nice conclusion to a romance, what with your very own child and all.

 Well in Fable you could have a child but not help influence who he/she will become i was thinking more along the lines of you teaching the child if the ends justifies the means or if you always follow the path of good or if you want the child to follow the path of the chantry or the Qun more along those lines.

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None of the kids my Fable people had ever grew up.  It was weird.  I think I'd rather not have kids unless it's at the very end of the game.