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possible expansion before DA2 to end the wardens story??


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ZMJ10

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Okay soo anybody think this will happen? And am i the only one who thought awakening made the sotry feel unfinished?-_-

Modifié par ZMJ10, 18 juillet 2010 - 10:29 .


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NamiraWilhelm

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i really hope so, but i doubt thats enough lol. Ending it with her/him mysteriously disappearing is more than a little bit crap, but they seem eager to move on :(

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Yeah, they do. I suppose they don't want you to get too attached to the character, since they seem to be planning different experiences across their next few DA games.

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ALl that is left for a grey warden story is the calling.I rather doubt they will come back and make more DLC after DA2 comes out.

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Nick_Nitro wrote...

Yeah, they do. I suppose they don't want you to get too attached to the character, .



That might well be their intention, but that ship has wayyyyyy sailed, for what seems nearly everyone who plays. Maybe their intention was for us to become obsessed with the fantasy world itself but, i definately love my warden more than that and the roles she's played in it. Definitely sucks they're snatching away our babies like this, so hopefully we will get more. Or an onward march to the headquarters might be called for.

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The Warden's story reached a dead end. Honestly... running around being no match for anything except a Arch Demon makes it kinda boring. Its just waiting for the calling...



A proper Awakening as DA 2 would have been an option, but they made the expansion and now there is nothing left to be told...

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Have our overpowered Warden do his calling in an endless battle and depending on how many you kill you will have freed a number of thaigs for them to reclaim.I think they can do this as a DLC.

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I disagree about the only thing left for the warden being the calling.



There's still the whole world of Thedas left to explore, and even if you purposely made your warden old to begin with, he's still got 25 to 30 years left before the taint gets to him, unless he was so old to begin with that he'd be dead before then anyway.



I'm sure the warden could still have had many interesting and compelling adventures had Bioware chosen to take that route instead of foisting some unknown named "Hawke" off on us.



It probably would have been a lot cheaper game to produce as well.




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They should just make a DLC where you take your Warden to the Deep Roads and solo wave after wave of Darkspawn until you die. No new skills, no new armor, nothing, just the glorious "THE TAINT HAS GOTTEN TO ME I'M GOING OUT WITH A BANG" that is the Warden equivalent of dying to old age.

I think my Warden story wrapped up fine and doesn't need any more explanation, but for those of you who need it, this idea ought to do,

Modifié par cipher86, 18 juillet 2010 - 04:17 .


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Dragon Age: The Calling



That would be nice, even if we have to die to win or complete the story.

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Yeah, exploring the world with the guy that slew 3-4 dragons and killed of the blight... oh my... how exciting to meet a mob trying to rob me. Either there is a mob consisting of a whole village and still no challenge or its a super thug who could have killed the arch demon while sleeping just didn't feel like it... wow... and all those companions at level 35+... great...



Its beating the dead horse... nothing else.









Still a calling DLC would be a nice ending...

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I disagree with the deep roads idea and the level problem too.  I'm sure the writers at Bioware are imaginative enough to come up with a workable solution to the level problem, and a deep roads slug fest would just be a waste of time.  

What happened to my god baby and it's mother? Did Shale ever successfully become dwarven again? How did Alistair work out as King of Ferelden? How did Ohgren fare as a general of Fereleden? Did my true love Leli and I have a happy ever after, or did we eventually split after getting tired of each other? Did the Crows finally get Zev or did he successfully manage to avoid them? Did the Quunari invade? Did Isabella ever return with my promised reward for defeating the blight? Etc. etc. etc.

Many loose threads and unanswered questions that should have been addressed in the sequel before closing the book on the warden's story.  If you're going to make the effort to tell me a story, finish it properly please.

I would have preferred a full sequel to finish the warden's story, but if they do it with DLC or expansions, I suppose that will have to do.

Al least that's my opinion.

Modifié par werwulf222, 27 juillet 2010 - 03:50 .


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werwulf222 wrote...

I disagree with that idea too.

What happened to my god baby and it's mother? Did Shale ever successfully become dwarven again? How did Alistair work out as King of Ferelden? How did Ohgren fare as a general of Fereleden? Did my true love Leli and I have a happy ever after, or did we eventually split after getting tired of each other? Did the Crows finally get Zev or did he successfully manage to avoid them? Did the Quunari invade? Did Isabella ever return with my promised reward for defeating the blight? Etc. etc. etc.

Many loose threads and unanswered questions that should have been addressed in the sequel before closing the book on the warden's story.

Al least that's my opinion.


Yes, yes - a million times YES - to everything stated above. I will not purchase anything that Bioware releases in the future unless they have a proper continuation/ending to my Warden PC from DA:O. There is far too much storyline to continue with from DA:O instead of creating some other new irrelevant storyline with someone named Hawke :blink: 

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NamiraWilhelm wrote...

i really hope so, but i doubt thats enough lol. Ending it with her/him mysteriously disappearing is more than a little bit crap, but they seem eager to move on :(

I am gald it ends like that. It means they aren't making choices for me. I can still imagine what happened to my warden, and don't have to go with the "you settled down and lived happily ever after" end that may not be what my warden would have done.

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werwulf222 wrote...

I disagree with the deep roads idea.  

What happened to my god baby and it's mother? Did Shale ever successfully become dwarven again? How did Alistair work out as King of Ferelden? How did Ohgren fare as a general of Fereleden? Did my true love Leli and I have a happy ever after, or did we eventually split after getting tired of each other? Did the Crows finally get Zev or did he successfully manage to avoid them? Did the Quunari invade? Did Isabella ever return with my promised reward for defeating the blight? Etc. etc. etc.

Many loose threads and unanswered questions that should have been addressed in the sequel before closing the book on the warden's story.

Al least that's my opinion.



None of them would justify a game with the Warden as main character.

Morrigan left the Warden and as stated in the epilog they NEVER see each other again... and guess what? She is part of DA 2. Her story will be told and it doesn't need the Warden to do so.

Shale &  Wynne story took them away from Fereldan and the Warden... so why you need the Warden to tell that?

Being king, Alaister's actions will be seen even from a far. You don't need the warden to see how he fares.

Orghen's story is told in Awakening... he left the army and the rest is in the epilog.

Leli's & your story is also told in both epilogs. I never romanced her, but there was an ending for sure. And Awakenings ending tells you that you vanished... I guess it wasn't that happy ending.

All others have also nothing to do with the Warden anymore. Just because the mega-hero Warden isn't the center of attention their stories continue and can be told within other games without the Warden being involved... and BioWare already confirmed that your decisions will cary over into DA2.

So the only reason to stick to your character is to keep playing as undefeated ueber hero without challenges left...

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Yeah, DAO seemed like a pretty complete story to me. There were some tangents/story seeds left on, but I never saw those as indicating continuation with the Warden. Rather, the fact that other issues don't center around your Warden helps the suspension of disbelief regarding the fictional world. It would have ruined the game for me if every one of those little plot points were solved and resolved by your Warden.



Despite seeing the game is bascially a finished story, I thought that Awakening made a nice continuation. Its foci: the Grey Wardens, Darkspawn, and Fereldan politics, made it a suitable continuation to the main story, IMO, since it carried on the major themes, without getting bogged down in side matters better left to to their own stories.



I would be happy to have another expansion for DAO with the Warden character, as long as it focused on issues with a substantial connect to the main themes of Origins and Awakening. I would be disappointed if they simply wrapped up every little side story.

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werwulf222 wrote...
What happened to my god baby and it's mother? Did Shale ever successfully become dwarven again? How did Alistair work out as King of Ferelden? How did Ohgren fare as a general of Fereleden? Did my true love Leli and I have a happy ever after, or did we eventually split after getting tired of each other? Did the Crows finally get Zev or did he successfully manage to avoid them? Did the Quunari invade? Did Isabella ever return with my promised reward for defeating the blight? Etc. etc. etc.

Many loose threads and unanswered questions that should have been addressed in the sequel before closing the book on the warden's story.  If you're going to make the effort to tell me a story, finish it properly please.

I would have preferred a full sequel to finish the warden's story, but I they do it with DLC or expansions, I suppose that will have to do.

Al least that's my opinion.

What happened to the God Baby and Morrigan will be detailed eventually.  They've already said they aren't through with her story.

Maybe Shale became a dwarf.  Maybe she didn't.  Maybe they'll tell us.  Maybe they won't.  Use your imagination on this one.

How "Allistair worked out as the King of Ferelden" is pretty obvious in my opinion, but I don't need all the info thrown in my face to put things together.

How did Oghren fare as a general of Ferelden?  Maybe there'll be a Codex entry on this in DA2, or a reference.  Do we really need an entire game to give us a bit of an idea on how a beloved character is doing?

Did you and Lelianna stay together or split?  I don't know.  It's your Warden.  Would you get tired of her?  If so, then she caught you cheating on her and stabbed you to death, then went back to her bardic ways.  See what I did there?  Created my own story - isn't that what this game is about?

Everything you've brought up as a "loose end" would be useless to make an entire new entry just to tie it up.  It's so damn minimal, save for the bit about the God Baby, which I'm 100% certain isn't over.

And to the person who said you wouldn't be buying another Bioware game until DA:O is properly wrapped up... yes, you will.

I swear this forum makes people dumber (myself included).  It'll be a lot better when the glory days have passed.

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How simple would it be for the warden to have an "accident" and lose his uber stats? That doesn't hold water. It's the story that is important, and as far as I'm concerned Bioware left the story hanging with a promise of fulfillment in a later installment that they chose not to implement.

And my imagination is exactly what I'm talking about.  I want the opportunity to work through the rest of the story, just like in Origins, because that is one of the things I enjoy so much about the original game.

Modifié par werwulf222, 18 juillet 2010 - 04:54 .


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werwulf222 wrote...

How simple would it be for the warden to have an "accident" and lose his uber stats?

Is that a serious suggestion?  Because it's been done many times over in other games that decided to stretch out the same story and it always feels tired.  For a recent example, look at GoW.  At the start of 2 and 3, you end up losing all your stats so your back to your initial state.

Really now.  Go write a fanfic.

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werwulf222 wrote...

How simple would it be for the warden to have an "accident" and lose his uber stats? That doesn't hold water. It's the story that is important, and as far as I'm concerned Bioware left the story hanging with a promise of fulfillment in a later installment that they chose not to implement.


Well, to each his own.  The way I saw it, Bioware wrapped up the story, strongly implied that there probably wouldn't be continuity with future games, and never really indicated that there would be more installments for that character. 

Though, I would still like to see another expansion.

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werwulf222 wrote...

How simple would it be for the warden to have an "accident" and lose his uber stats? That doesn't hold water. It's the story that is important, and as far as I'm concerned Bioware left the story hanging with a promise of fulfillment in a later installment that they chose not to implement.



Been there, done that...


...and it was never percived well by the fans...

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Yes, to each his own. The way I read the epilogue was that the story was not yet finished and there were many more adventures to be had.

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werwulf222 wrote...

Yes, to each his own. The way I read the epilogue was that the story was not yet finished and there were many more adventures to be had.


Gotcha.  I read that as a sort of stock ending like "happily ever after" but more suited for an adventurer.

But in any case, I'd still be happy to see more content, so I'm on your side as far as that is concerned Image IPB

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''These are tales yet to be told, but this tale ended when the Warden sunk his/her blade into the head of the Archdemon'' or something like that is what I remember from the ending credits. and that's what's intended. What happends to the other characters and the Warden later is in my head, which should be in your heads aswell instead of needing someone to write a book for you about it.

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I very much enjoyed playing my warden my way, Dragon Age origins was a bold attempt to give each character and player an individuality within the same story and it worked.



I would love a proper ending a third part that plays through my warden dealing with the taint, perhaps heading off on some crusade or anything that gives a proper "ending" not a paragraph or two of throw away "unhappy ever after".



I am willing however to believe that the unfinished plots are going to be addressed from different perspectives.