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Kothoses Rothenkisal wrote...

I very much enjoyed playing my warden my way, Dragon Age origins was a bold attempt to give each character and player an individuality within the same story and it worked.

I would love a proper ending a third part that plays through my warden dealing with the taint, perhaps heading off on some crusade or anything that gives a proper "ending" not a paragraph or two of throw away "unhappy ever after".

I am willing however to believe that the unfinished plots are going to be addressed from different perspectives.



Maybe a proper ending isn't the intention, not when we're far from the end of the franchise. I'm pretty sure Bioware will let us have another go with our Wardens when the time comes, but for now I'm ok with indulging in their new directions and seeing where they take us.

Even if I do miss my Warden as much as anyone else here (:

So loose ends or not, I'm keen for more adventures for the Warden for the time being!

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biomag wrote...

The Warden's story reached a dead end. Honestly... running around being no match for anything except a Arch Demon makes it kinda boring. Its just waiting for the calling...

A proper Awakening as DA 2 would have been an option, but they made the expansion and now there is nothing left to be told...


this is where a nice $7-$10 awakening dlc would come in handy. they could add a new area and wrap things up a little cleaner than they did. i'd love to see another expansion, but i doubt another one will come out. an awakening specific dlc would be great and could do the job. 2-3 hours more content with a couple small quests and a better epilogue would wrap it up. the warden would be so overpowered that another expansion would be so hard to make well.

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Everyone says there is still one more DLC for DA: O. I think the February date is still another game since DA: 2 comes out in March...

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Okay soo anybody think this will happen? And am i the only one who thought awakening made the sotry feel unfinished?-_-

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Inevitable.

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I can't help but comment on this. To heck with the ideal of, "You go to the deep roads and die." I'm quite happy with how the story ended and I'm delighted to know that the decisions I made as a warden in Origins will affect the world Hawke is in. Hopefully my decisions in awakening will as well but that has yet to be known.



I do not however want to be told how my Warden dies and screw that mentality about the taint killing all wardens. Avernus at soldier's peak was a grey warden as well and he lived for hundreds of years through his blood magic. Now between the benefits of his little alchemy drink, being an arcane warrior and a blood mage myself I'm pretty darn certain my warden could extend her life span nicely as well perhaps even extend the life of her lover to.



I don't see my Warden as letting the taint simply take her life whenever she has a means of dealing with that issue.

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SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Everyone says there is still one more DLC for DA: O. I think the February date is still another game since DA: 2 comes out in March...


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First, there is probably more then one DLC coming.  The devs specifically said they were going to continue supporting DAO, at least up until DA2 comes along. 

Second, the 2/2011 thing was months ago.  They are now saying 3/2011.  That's called normal development slippage.  And it would make no sense for Bioware to release anything significant (undoubtedly with a significant price) just a month before releasing a whole new game.  

Third, what's wrong with the Warden's future not being defined?  We already know that Morrigan and the God Baby (or whatever) are going to be part of DA2, so what happened with the Warden isn't really vital to the bigger story they are telling.  And that assumes your Warden even lived - that's not the ending many players consider "theirs." Besides,  if the decisions from Origins and Awakening are supposed to carry over and influence DA2, then those decisions could also reflect a Thedas where the Warden died defeating the Blight.  There is no room for a DLC or expansion where you get to live happily ever after with Morrigan or Leliana or Alistair.  That part of the story has to be told in your head.

Modifié par Sarkus, 19 juillet 2010 - 06:48 .


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From what I've read in my Awakening epilogues, there's always the possibility of continuing the Warden's story. I still feel there's one more chapter to be played out - Morrigan. For those who did romance her, the Warden has the "ring" to track her. And if he did the DR, this is HIS child too. There's too much left unresolved between the Warden and Morrigan, even if he didn't do the DR . . . even if the Warden was female. The Warden's duty still remains.

Besides, there needs to be a bridge between DA:Origins and DA2. How are Origins players going to relate to the story in DA2 and warm up to this Hawke character if they have no frame of reference? They can't just throw us into this situation in DA2 without knowing who or what Hawke is.

It would also make for better sales if they could somehow tie DA:Origins to DA2. So, from a $$$ point of view, it makes perfect sense.

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ZMJ10 wrote...

Okay soo anybody think this will happen? And am i the only one who thought awakening made the sotry feel unfinished?-_-


Someone of BioWare said there would at least be DLCs and Patches for Origins before the release of Origins. I don´t know about another expansion; personally I doubt it.

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Zy-El wrote...

From what I've read in my Awakening epilogues, there's always the possibility of continuing the Warden's story. I still feel there's one more chapter to be played out - Morrigan. For those who did romance her, the Warden has the "ring" to track her. And if he did the DR, this is HIS child too. There's too much left unresolved between the Warden and Morrigan, even if he didn't do the DR . . . even if the Warden was female. The Warden's duty still remains.
Besides, there needs to be a bridge between DA:Origins and DA2. How are Origins players going to relate to the story in DA2 and warm up to this Hawke character if they have no frame of reference? They can't just throw us into this situation in DA2 without knowing who or what Hawke is.
It would also make for better sales if they could somehow tie DA:Origins to DA2. So, from a $$$ point of view, it makes perfect sense.


Why can't we just warm up to Hawke?

First of all, we warmed up quite nicely to Cousland, Aeducan, and the rest without playing a previous game.  There is no reason we can't do it again.  Second, we have a much stronger frame of reference this time around because Hawke is from Lothering before it is destroyed, a location and event we are familiar with from Origins.

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Sarkus wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Everyone says there is still one more DLC for DA: O. I think the February date is still another game since DA: 2 comes out in March...


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First, there is probably more then one DLC coming.  The devs specifically said they were going to continue supporting DAO, at least up until DA2 comes along. 

Second, the 2/2011 thing was months ago.  They are now saying 3/2011.  That's called normal development slippage.  And it would make no sense for Bioware to release anything significant (undoubtedly with a significant price) just a month before releasing a whole new game.  

Third, what's wrong with the Warden's future not being defined?  We already know that Morrigan and the God Baby (or whatever) are going to be part of DA2, so what happened with the Warden isn't really vital to the bigger story they are telling.  And that assumes your Warden even lived - that's not the ending many players consider "theirs." Besides,  if the decisions from Origins and Awakening are supposed to carry over and influence DA2, then those decisions could also reflect a Thedas where the Warden died defeating the Blight.  There is no room for a DLC or expansion where you get to live happily ever after with Morrigan or Leliana or Alistair.  That part of the story has to be told in your head.


I originally thought the same thing, that February was an old estimate, and March a newer estimate.

But while I don't have a reference, I remember reading a link to some game site recently that was speculating about the 2/2011 thing and whether it was DA2, and then they had an edit saying that Bioware had specified it was something else.  I don't remember what site it was or have the link, so I'm sorry that I can't confirm it, but I think there is still the possibility that the February is something else DA related.  I think in another thread some were speculating it was related to DA anime or something like that though we got not hint.

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biomag wrote...

Morrigan left the Warden and as stated in the epilog they NEVER see each other again... and guess what? She is part of DA 2. Her story will be told and it doesn't need the Warden to do so.

1. The epilogue does NOT state that
2. They have not said Morrigan is in DA2

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Everyone says there is still one
more DLC for DA: O. I think the February date is still another game
since DA: 2 comes out in March...

Probably more than just one. Since it was released in November '09, there have been 7 DLCs and one expansion...that's nearly 1 per month. I highly doubt they're just stopping there until 7 months from now. Also they've never announced a DLC that early...it's got to be something bigger.

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Zy-El wrote...

From what I've read in my Awakening epilogues, there's always the possibility of continuing the Warden's story. I still feel there's one more chapter to be played out - Morrigan. For those who did romance her, the Warden has the "ring" to track her. And if he did the DR, this is HIS child too. There's too much left unresolved between the Warden and Morrigan, even if he didn't do the DR . . . even if the Warden was female. The Warden's duty still remains.
Besides, there needs to be a bridge between DA:Origins and DA2. How are Origins players going to relate to the story in DA2 and warm up to this Hawke character if they have no frame of reference? They can't just throw us into this situation in DA2 without knowing who or what Hawke is.
It would also make for better sales if they could somehow tie DA:Origins to DA2. So, from a $$$ point of view, it makes perfect sense.


Of course this makes sense to us but apparently Bioware does not think it's worth while.

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To be honest I have been suggesting the same thing myself continuously. I mean, Im not one of those haters who is gonna jump ship because DA2 doesnt seem like DAO ... its isnt, its DA2, hence a NEW game. Which is fine, Im looking forward to it. With that said, I really LOVE my DAO character and .... well the expansion was kinda anticlimactic in ending, not to mention that Caping at Lv 35 just seems a little ... well unfinished, I mean 50 would be a little more .... agreeable I guess? :?

Anyway, I have faith in BioWare they actually care what there fan base thinks and thats been a plus for me since NWN, God THAT game had some expansion lol. It would just be nice I guess to give our Warden characters the Epic finale that they have battled for. :o

hmmmmm ... now that I have said it out loud Im sure it isnt anything BioWare hasnt already thought of. I just hope that its something that get pursued. Until then, DA2 is looking pretty sick I think B)

Modifié par Flurdt07, 26 juillet 2010 - 09:54 .


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Okay, as soon as i read the title i thought I was going to argue to my death that they should make more DLC/expansions for our wardens (alittle peice of my died when i beat the game knowing I would never see my party again) but after reading the comments here im now finnaly accepting my characters end. Mainly because i would hate it even more if they completely ruined my warden or any of the NPC's with an espansion. So if bioware makes an expansion it better be good :P.

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ZMJ10 wrote...

Okay soo anybody think this will happen? And am i the only one who thought awakening made the sotry feel unfinished?-_-

 I agree entirely, but given the news that the next DLC will be combat only--and probably not involve the companions, no. I think we're twisting in the wind. And given the fact that they haven't made anything that had the tone and quality of DA:O since The Stone Prisoner, and Soldier's Peak, I've lost hope that they want to do that, or are even capable.

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errant_knight wrote...

ZMJ10 wrote...

Okay soo anybody think this will happen? And am i the only one who thought awakening made the sotry feel unfinished?-_-

 I agree entirely, but given the news that the next DLC will be combat only--and probably not involve the companions, no. I think we're twisting in the wind. And given the fact that they haven't made anything that had the tone and quality of DA:O since The Stone Prisoner, and Soldier's Peak, I've lost hope that they want to do that, or are even capable.



I can understand .... truth be told though I liked Return to Ostegar. I thought it was fun. :happy: Kinda expected more enimes but whatever, it was nice to get to go back and take care of bussiness on the Darkspawn :bandit:

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I remember the epilogue in Awakenings for my Orlesian warden had him getting called to Weisshaupt fortress for some emergency. I'd like that story as expansion. One more grand adventure with a familiar character before DA2 comes out.

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Part of the problem with games of this nature is how powerful you become.

In Awakening you scythe through fights with ridiculous ease if you play on the same difficulty as in DA:O.

One of the few games I've ever played which managed to balance the power of the PC enough to allow them continue on was Baldur's Gate. You were a very low level finishing that game off, meaning you could carry on easily into BG 2.

I would assume that we'll see some nods towards our character, I hope so anyway.

Also, what happens if the mage from Warden's Keep is successful in understanding the taint? :wizard:

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Part of me hopes that there will be a second expansion on the grounds that, on the Xbox, Awakening saves come under: "E1_CharacterName". Seems like there should be an "E2" at some point.

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I would love to see the Warden's story continued in another expansion. I know we're getting a new DLC where we can play as our warden, but it looks like it focuses on combat, and I'd like to see more of a focus on story and character.

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I would definitely love to see some form of DLC based around the Warden's Calling. I think there could be some room for a few nice twists in that possible storyline as well (if you've read the Dragon Age novel "The Calling" you probably know what I'm hinting at).

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Well the dev's have said in multiple treads that they weren't done with the Warden and Morrigan's story yet
so guess we may expect some DLC or Expansion that will end the wardens story before DA2
they even could pick up the Wardens story in DA3 would be cool but it's unlikely.i guess

i still don't understand why so many people think the godchild or whatever will be in DA2?
since the child will only be 10 years of age at the end of DA2 i don't expect to find out much about the child before DA3
wich makes a lot more sense,
unless they give it some growth hormones or spell / potion 
i guess DA2 you might face a choice to take sides between Morrigan or Flemmeth for once and for all,
since  Morrigan should be able to defend herself now against Flemmeth now that she has the true Grimoire.
i expect it to be something like that instead of seeing anthing of the god child, maybe there will be something towards the very end something that will lead into DA3 ,
but i am pretty sure that it wont be something that will be in DA2. the kid wont be power full enough to have a big impact ,it's just learning to use his powers.

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 28 juillet 2010 - 03:10 .


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If you haven't read it yet, there's a post about the new DLC - "Golems of Amgarrak". It's not a stand-alone DLC but actually akin to an expansion. You can load up your Warden from Origins or Awakening and continue to gain xps, level and acquire gear. Don't know about any mention of previous relationships (doubt it since a DLC is too small).

That being said, there were a lot of players concerned that your Awakening Warden would be lost forever because of a lack of an endgame save. Apparently, this DLC does not need one or else it merely takes the most recent Awakening save file for a chosen character which makes sense.

Everything is sunshine and roses now!! Looking forward to this DLC!!!

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Zy-El wrote...

If you haven't read it yet, there's a post about the new DLC - "Golems of Amgarrak". It's not a stand-alone DLC but actually akin to an expansion.


hmm,..Interesting but do you have a link or something to this:wizard: