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#26
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Each time I see a "[insert weapon] thread", the psychologist in me assumes a deeper phallic symbolism.



I have created psychological profiles of many many forumites depending on what weapon they desire, why, how much time they spent describing the weapon, its use, the historical context of such weapon, whether they prefer authentic looking or fantastic looking weapons and how upset they get about size.

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BallaZs

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If there won't be spears, well I won't miss them :P

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Marixus99.9

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I want a Halberd ...

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well apparentely that 'spear' is a staff that only mages can use

damn i was hoping to use that with my rogue build

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I think its entirely possible Dragon Age 2 will implement a whole new weapon class.





After all, Mass Effect 2 added the sub machine gun class.

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i image because spears would only be available to one class, one weapon specialization of a class, and require completely unique animations to make it look good. While this is true of S&S and 2Hs, spears are far less iconic due to the romanticizing of medieval combat.

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KLUME777 wrote...

I think its entirely possible Dragon Age 2 will implement a whole new weapon class.


After all, Mass Effect 2 added the sub machine gun class.


Yes, but there are only so many ways you can animate someone shooting a gun.

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Bioware had already stated no Pole arms or Spears in game.

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Phoenixblight wrote...

Bioware had already stated no Pole arms or Spears in game.

Wasn't it said that some mage staffs look like spears for melee combat?

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Never was a fan of the spear as a weapon untill Assassin's creed 2... in which it had the coolest f*in kill moves of all the weapons. One where you knock a person to their knees and then jam the spear between their shoulder blades, down the spine, untill the point is literally sticking out their ****. BRUTAL

Then of course this slick move

At around 3:20 into the video.

www.youtube.com/watch

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What type of spear are you referring too out of curiosity? A throwing spear/javelin per chance? I can see why they might no include something of that sort, as it would require you going up to corpse your spear impaled after throwing it before it could be returned to your hand. (Unless you go ala. Diablo 2, where it just magically reappears in your hand...) Maybe a pike or partisan? Though the former would be rather impractical in close quarter combat given their immense length.
Or are you also referring to other polearms like the halberd or glaive? Both of which are better at slashing and hacking, though the halberd can also double as a stabbing weapon like most traditional spears.
Some context would be nice is all I'm saying. Especially since the effectiveness of certain spears is lost unless mounted cavalry is present - then again this is a video game so it probably would matter.

Frankly I honestly wouldn't mind to see more bladed pole arms in the next game. :)

Modifié par Nyaore, 11 septembre 2010 - 07:21 .


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I certainly wouldn't mind using polearms similar to what Hawke used in the trailer.That weapon was pretty cool to see.

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Black-Xero wrote...

I certainly wouldn't mind using polearms similar to what Hawke used in the trailer.That weapon was pretty cool to see.


No... haven't you read anythings the devs said? It's called a Swordstaff

It's not a polearm, it's a big pole with a blade towards the top... oh wait...

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hmm.. actual spear fighting looks way more exciting than this anime/game stuff



just look at it



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apparenlty the staffsword is only available if you did that promotional stuff a month ago its called staff of parlathan

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The promo item is the staff from the trailer. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the only such weapon in the game.

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HopHazzard wrote...

The promo item is the staff from the trailer. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the only such weapon in the game.


so theres more than one staffswords?

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I think a spear would be great! In fact, there's so many weapons that could be added under different categories, with only a little bit of tweaking to the fight animations or something.

For instance, a spear could share the skills/talents of every other two-handed weapon, but just execute them in a different manner.

By the same standard perhaps you could have rapiers, scimitars, etc under the one-handed sword category.



Aside from that, I'd love to have a maul (as in the spiky ball on a chain kind). And I really want a shuriken in DA2. Practicality be damned, I want it!

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socoldwinter wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

The promo item is the staff from the trailer. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the only such weapon in the game.


so theres more than one staffswords?


Not necessarily. We really don't know enough about the arsenal to say for sure. But we already know there's one. So there's a possibility there's more than one. We'll just have to wait and see.

-Rue- wrote...
 And I really want a shuriken in DA2. Practicality be damned, I want it!

I don't know about shuriken. That would be a little out of left field in a game with generally European-inspired weaponry. Small throwing knives, maybe. That could be cool.

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Spears are not so much of a dueling weapon, i think that is why they are left out in many games. Pole weapons like spears, pikes, halberds etc. are more suited for regiments of troops than for small scale combat. There are exceptions of course (oriental styles) but from a western perspective they are not a prominent 1v1 weapon.

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They're like throwing knives. DA is mostly Western, true, but they also have katana-like weapons in the form of those dar'missan swords, so I'm sure an Eastern weapon wouldn't be that left field. I reckon the fact it would probably need its own skill tree, etc would be a bigger problem. That and the fact would would either need an infinite store of the things. But then, you can have an infinite store of arrows. Hmm.

Well, if I can't have my shuriken, a maul on a chain will be just fine Posted Image

Modifié par -Rue-, 03 octobre 2010 - 03:13 .


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I don't think implementation would be as much as a problem as justifying their presence. They could just use the ranged weapon skills.