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#51
Frosty44

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Thanks OakDragon. I just hate the thought of having to reinstall Motb and Soz - I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble - or the money.

I do have another question though - on a different matter. Is there any way to change a Ranger's companion? I had no idea about it when I first played a ranger and took the dog (wolf?) as his companion, but now I'd love to be able to change it to the panther. Is there any way to do that? I'll take a cheat code if there is one and there's no other way!

Thanks for any help!

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I think the next time you level up, you can change it.

Solo

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He's 17th level already and the only option that came up was to take the dinosaur, which would be out of place in the mod I'm playing.

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Strange. I could choose what ever I wanted.

?????Hmm........


Going to have to think

Bearbeitet von Ranger Solo, 23 Dezember 2011 - 05:21 .


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Kaldor Silverwand

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Aspyr has reorganized their website. The new location of the Mac NWN2 1.23 patch (only needed if you have the disc version of NWN2, not the App Store version) is here.

Regards

Bearbeitet von Kaldor Silverwand, 30 Dezember 2011 - 12:00 .


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Just got NWN2 OC for the Mac.

One of the reasons I didn't get it for so long was because I only wanted it if I could play MotB and possibly SoZ as well.

I've heard there was a way to use the PC versions of MotB & SoZ (as there aren't Mac versions) with the Mac OC by moving some of the files (I don't want to get bootcamp or a different piece of software to run windows on my Mac).

How does one go about this?

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pplr wrote...

Just got NWN2 OC for the Mac.

One of the reasons I didn't get it for so long was because I only wanted it if I could play MotB and possibly SoZ as well.

I've heard there was a way to use the PC versions of MotB & SoZ (as there aren't Mac versions) with the Mac OC by moving some of the files (I don't want to get bootcamp or a different piece of software to run windows on my Mac).

How does one go about this?


Ranger Solo posted some instructions for getting MotB and SoZ working at the NWN2mac.freeforum here.

There is also a thread here about it.

If the links still work that may be the ticket. If you change your mind about installing on Windows and copying the files over, I have instructions for doing that. That would require that you have Windows and the WIndows version of NWN2 as well as MotB and SoZ.

Regards

Bearbeitet von Kaldor Silverwand, 02 Februar 2012 - 04:59 .


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Thanks for the offer.

Since I already have the Mac version of the OC I'm going to see what I can do with that.

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I know this is a remarkably stupid question, but how do you find the module toolkit? I cannot for the life of me find it. Thanks

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ArgothWizard wrote...

I know this is a remarkably stupid question, but how do you find the module toolkit? I cannot for the life of me find it. Thanks


The NWN2 Toolset is only available for Windows. You would need to buy the Windows version of NWN2 to use it and you would need Windows XP or Windows 7 to run it on Bootcamp.  I'm working on trying to get it to work using Wineskin so Windows isn't needed (although the Windows version of NWN2 would still be required), but Iit may not be possible.  I run the Toolset on Windows XP in Bootcamp.

Regards

Bearbeitet von Kaldor Silverwand, 12 Februar 2012 - 08:14 .


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AGRHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! That's terrible damage... I should have read the fine print.

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Kaldor Silverwand

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If you have a copy of Windows XP already then the price isn't very high. You can get the Windows version of NWN2 with both expansions for very little now. And you can get the expansions to work with the Mac client with some effort (see my blog). But like I said, I'm trying to get the Toolset to work with Wineskin so you don't need to be running Windows at all. I may be successful, but I can't say for sure.

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Hmm..

Unfortunately this may be useful yet but it is less so than I thought.

The macfreeforums has a link to nwn-europa which tells you to follow directions but the directions themselves are not viewable as links to them bring you to a forum bioware no longer links to.

And the 2 other links give errors.

And most of the other links don't work

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Kaldor Silverwand

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I have posted instructions on my blog on how to install the Windows version in a Wineskin so that you can run it on a Mac, including the expansions. I haven't gotten the toolset to work yet and I don't know that it will work with multi-player, but it is an option if you just want to play and buy NWN2 Platinum. You can buy NWN2 Platinum as a download from GamersGate.com for $7 this weekend. I believe their download mechanism is a Windows program though, so I think you will need to be running Windows to download it.

I'm sorry the links are no longer working. This is the internet. And the Bioware forums were lost to us a while ago.

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Sorry. Posted in the wrong thread.

Bearbeitet von Ranger Solo, 23 Februar 2012 - 04:04 .


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If I get the Mac version from the Apple store (13€), it seems it's a download = no CD version, right, no need to have a CD driving myself crazy while playing, I suppose?
Also, it seems that Apple store Mac version comes fully updated.

[EDIT] I found most of the answers in your NWN2 Mac Free Forum Thanks for putting it up!

Bearbeitet von jmlzemaggo, 08 März 2012 - 06:47 .


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jmlzemaggo wrote...

If I get the Mac version from the Apple store (13€), it seems it's a download = no CD version, right, no need to have a CD driving myself crazy while playing, I suppose?
Also, it seems that Apple store Mac version comes fully updated.

[EDIT] I found most of the answers in your NWN2 Mac Free Forum Thanks for putting it up!


You're welcome. Glad it helped.  So in short
- no CD required
- fully patched OC
- does not include the expansions or MoW but is compatible with them if you can copy the files over from a Windows installation
- does not include the toolset
- overwrites the CD key for the OC each time it starts
- Standard campaign folders are embeded in the .app; campaign folders that would normally be in ~/Documents are instead in a subfolder in ~/Library
- a couple of bugs have been reported

Before buying it though I would seriously consider the alternative of buying the Windows NWN2 Platinum and installing it in a Wineskin wrapper. I posted instructions on my blog. That would include the expansions and also wouldn't require a CD to play.

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 I found this Wineskin-Winery-1.4 here
& that "How to use a Wineskin wrapper" movie here.
Now, with the help of your blog and those, once I find the time... maybe... 
(Am I supposed to look for some "NWN2 wrapper" somewhere?)

Are those expansions any better than the OC... since it isn't the most thrilling story to me so far... with all my due respects to our beloved Bioware. :innocent:

Bearbeitet von jmlzemaggo, 09 März 2012 - 05:52 .


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jmlzemaggo wrote...

 I found this Wineskin-Winery-1.4 here
& that "How to use a Wineskin wrapper" movie here.
Now, with the help of your blog and those, once I find the time... maybe... 
(Am I supposed to look for some "NWN2 wrapper" somewhere?)

Are those expansions any better than the OC... since it isn't the most thrilling story to me so far... with all my due respects to our beloved Bioware. :innocent:


I have this blog post that explains how to create the wrapper and install NWN2 from the Platinum discs. In this blog post I give more detailed instructions on how to create a Wineskin using Wineskin Winery (with screen shots), although the programs I am installing in that post are from the DnD Anthology (BG, BG2, IWD, IWD2, ToEE, and PS:T).  If you read both posts you should have a pretty good idea how to go about getting it to work. The two things I haven't been able to get working within a wineskin are multi-player and the toolset. 

You do not have to start with a NWN2 wrapper, although there are a couple out there already. I had some trouble with the ones already out there and so created my own from scratch using Wineskin Winery. It isn't difficult.

MotB is a lot like the OC except that it is epic levels and the storyline is considered by most to be superior. I rushed through it since I was developing the MotB Makeover at the time so I'm not he best person to give a review on it.  With the OC Makeover and MotB Makeover installed I liked both the OC and MotB, but I developed the Makeovers because I did not like them very much unmodified.  SoZ is quite a bit different than the OC and MotB because it eschews the use of a heavy-handed plotline and cutscenes, allowing the player to have more freedom to explore. Some people appreciate that but others prefer the dictated plotline and companions of the OC and MotB. I enjoyed playing SoZ and it suited my taste more than any cRPG since Baldur's Gate.

Even if you are not enjoying the OC my recommendation is to buy NWN2 Platinum and install it. Then you can download from the NWN2 Vault (or soon from the brand new Nexus site) any of over a hundred free stand-alone adventures developed by community members and play them. Many of them assume that you have the expansions installed and may not work otherwise. Many of the adventures developed by the community are very polished and enjoyable.  There are also many modifications, like my OC Makeover, available for free that might make the OC more enjoyable for you.

Regards

Bearbeitet von Kaldor Silverwand, 10 März 2012 - 03:09 .


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All very helpful and warmy. It might take a little time before I set all this together, but as a huge fan of NWN(1) and its community, and community's modules, I don't expect much of the OCs anyway, but much more from the free stuff so I'd should be working on it shortly.
Thanks again for everything, Kaldor Silverwandg.

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I finally downloaded the Apple Store NWN2.
It comes as a one piece 6Gb application.
Now I can't find the saved games anyhere. I searched the app (open package) itself, my '"Documents" folder, my entire Mac (Intel Lion 10.7.3), no dice.
Anyone has any idea?

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Using the app stope version I got all expansions and MoWG installed. Upon playing MoWG in the East Market I enter a tower. Inside the tower I can hear voices but not see anyone including myself. All of the interior doorways are blacked out including the exit. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I tried adjusting video settings with no luck.

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i'd say there is a folder named Neverwinter nights 2 inside your documents folder with the version you get on CD, not sure what is different on your version.

Try opening terminal ( it's an app in your utilties folder ), and running the following command which searches your entire user folder. ( ~ means user folder )
find ~ -type f -name \\*.bic

that assumes its inside your player folder somewhere ( and that bic is the extension of one of the 3 files in there, not at a place where i can check but i think it is )

If that does not work search your whole computer using the following ( / means root of the drive )
find / -type f -name \\*.bic

Think that should work, don't have lion yet, but it should be similar.

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painofdungeoneternal wrote...

i'd say there is a folder named Neverwinter nights 2 inside your documents folder with the version you get on CD, not sure what is different on your version.

Try opening terminal ( it's an app in your utilties folder ), and running the following command which searches your entire user folder. ( ~ means user folder )

find ~ -type f -name *.bic

that assumes its inside your player folder somewhere ( and that bic is the extension of one of the 3 files in there, not at a place where i can check but i think it is )

If that does not work search your whole computer using the following ( / means root of the drive )
find / -type f -name *.bic

Think that should work, don't have lion yet, but it should be similar.


That worked... :wub:
(For the records, I also have an older french version, 1.12, of NWN2 installed on that same computer, one I know my way around with, located in that 'Documents' folder) 

Your trick found waht I was looking for, among a few others of this new NWN2's things:
/Users/jml/Library/Application Support/Neverwinter Nights 2/saves/000004 - RRRRRRRRR/player.bic

So I know it's there, only I can't reach it... yet.

'jml' being me, (as the administrator) and 'RRRRRRRRR' a weird name I gave to one of those savegames for an easier search. 
The only problem being... Lion maybe? Trust me, it's a hell of a new yet buggy system. 
Those savegames are seating somewhere on my computer, you found them, but there is no such a thing as a 'library' folder anymore in my 'users/jml' directory... 

A 'regular' search, my feeble level, can't find any 'RRRRRRRRR' file, the one you found. It's hidding to me, yet it's here somewhere... hidding just like this 'library' folder which is the key to everything. 
Where could we find that 'player folder' you mentionned?

But many thanks already.
'working on it. :crying:

Bearbeitet von jmlzemaggo, 16 März 2012 - 08:44 .


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To my question:
"Where are the NWN2 saved games and player's directory hiding in the new Mac OSX "Lion"
I got the answer from Aspyr:
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Aspyr Technical Support, Mar 16 10:12 am (CDT):
Saves are stored in User/Library/Application Support/NWN2.

OSX Lion now hides this directory, so please press cmd+shift+G to bring up a search window in Finder and type in '~/library' to access this directory.

Aspyr Support
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And it works. :wizard:

Bearbeitet von jmlzemaggo, 16 März 2012 - 04:46 .