Lovecraftian Influences in DA Universe

#26
Khayness

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:19

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SirShreK wrote...

CONAN THE CHASIND/AVVAR/ALMARRI!!!

The Goths were here long before Conan.

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#27
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:25

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Khayness wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

CONAN THE CHASIND/AVVAR/ALMARRI!!!

The Goths were here long before Conan.

ummm...Goths?

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#28
Khayness

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:27

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You know, those people who dress in black and apply makeup and listen to metal.

The Goths

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#29
TMZuk

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:27

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Khayness wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

CONAN THE CHASIND/AVVAR/ALMARRI!!!

The Goths were here long before Conan.

Now.... I'm lost! :huh:

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#30
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:28

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Khayness wrote...

You know, those people who dress in black and apply makeup and listen to metal.

The Goths

Riiight..... Sub-cultures in Sub-genres... :wizard:

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#31
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:35

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SirShreK wrote...

Khayness wrote...

You know, those people who dress in black and apply makeup and listen to metal.

The Goths

Riiight..... Sub-cultures in Sub-genres...

I hope you did click the link.

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#32
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:38

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Snowbug wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Khayness wrote...

You know, those people who dress in black and apply makeup and listen to metal.

The Goths

Riiight..... Sub-cultures in Sub-genres...

I hope you did click the link.

The link has nothing to do with modern Gothic sub-culture he is referring to... It is about the real Goths.... Unless I am horribly misled...

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#33
Snowbug

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:42

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I believe the first line was a joke.

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#34
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:44

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I believe the first line was a joke.

Then I was horribly misled

I thought he was referring to all the tattoo and the hair color in the game

My apologies.

OK. Fresh start:

"Goths were there before Conan."

DUH????????????????????????????/

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#35
Dick Delaware

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:45

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Snowbug wrote...

Maker = Yog-Sothoth

*nods knowingly*

It all makes sense now.

Ia! Ia! Andraste fhtagn!

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#36
Khayness

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:49

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Okay, I try my best.

Just because it's called barbarian, it's not Conan. Robert E. Howard wasn't the one who invented the term, it was the Roman Empire describing the "bearded men" german tribes attacking their borders.

The wild men living at the borders of an empire is more like a reference to the actual barbarians.

"The Tevinter Imperium had arrived and was hard-pressed to keep back the waves of invasions from the south and the west. The fortress of Ostagar was built specifically to watch for Chasind hordes venturing north of the tree line." - from the Codex

The Roman Empire had a lot of border fortifications just to do the same.

Modifié par Khayness, 18 juillet 2010 - 05:49 .

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#37
HoonDing

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:52

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Barbarian actually comes from Greek "barbar", meaning "stranger" or "foreigner".

Modifié par virumor, 18 juillet 2010 - 05:52 .

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#38
Khayness

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:56

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virumor wrote...

Barbarian actually comes from Greek "barbar", meaning "stranger" or "foreigner".

Right the "anyone who isn't hellenic" stuff.

But the etymology isn't the main point there.

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#39
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:57

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Khayness wrote...

Okay, I try my best.

Just because it's called barbarian, it's not Conan. Robert E. Howard wasn't the one who invented the term, it was the Roman Empire describing the "bearded men" german tribes attacking their borders.

The wild men living at the borders of an empire is more like a reference to the actual barbarians.

"The Tevinter Imperium had arrived and was hard-pressed to keep back the waves of invasions from the south and the west. The fortress of Ostagar was built specifically to watch for Chasind hordes venturing north of the tree line." - from the Codex

The Roman Empire had a lot of border fortifications just to do the same.

Then its a double fudge....

I was only joking about Conan being Chasind or Avvar or Almarri.... Just to emphasize that someone as savvy as Conan_the_asskicker could exist in DA also.. No historial parallel was sought...

But strangely, Tevinted INVADED the Avvar in ancient times and got their hind handed to them according to the Statues of War and Peace in DA:O:A. They mention their warrior Dane actually delivering the Killing blow to the magister involved. This sounds like Conan's first battle at Venarium.... Dane is of course the hero of many other tales AND in fact foster-father to the first Teyrn of Highever and the Owner of swords Winter Blade and Yusaris...

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#40
Khayness

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:01

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Curse you sarcasm, fooling all of us!

In your post that everything taking place in a dream must be a Lovecraftian reference made me think you are a rabid Lovecraft/Howard fan thinking they influenced everything.

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#41
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:03

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Khayness wrote...

Curse you sarcasm, fooling all of us!

In your post that everything taking place in a dream must be a Lovecraftian reference made me think you are a rabid Lovecraft/Howard fan thinking they influenced everything.

Hell Yes. I am a Rabid Howard/ Lovecraft fan!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:O

But doesn't mean that I think they influence all...

In fact I think they influence too little..

:O:O:O:O:O:O:crying:

:crying:

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#42
Dick Delaware

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:11

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SirShrek, there's an indie RPG in development called Cyclopean that is set within that Cthulu Mythos. Apparently, I think you'll even be able to join the cultists too. Sounds pretty sweet.

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#43
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:26

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Dick Delaware wrote...

SirShrek, there's an indie RPG in development called Cyclopean that is set within that Cthulu Mythos. Apparently, I think you'll even be able to join the cultists too. Sounds pretty sweet.

This is what you get when you hate strange creatures that claim to like Lovecraft and go all cult-ing.... Mon amie.. I like Lovecraft in much more literal way than practical...

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#44
Bryy_Miller

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:31

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Well, I do agree that Haven is loosely based on Innsmouth. I wonder if DA:o was influenced by Oblivion's Shadow Over Hackdirt quest.

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#45
Saint Joel

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:32

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hell even look at there new art direction

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#46
Bryy_Miller

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:38

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I think that's a *bit* of a stretch.

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#47
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:40

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Well, I do agree that Haven is loosely based on Innsmouth. I wonder if DA:o was influenced by Oblivion's Shadow Over Hackdirt quest.

Reavers = fish men/Deep-ones?

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#48
Narreneth

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:46

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Let me get this straight: If someone is unfamiliar with Lovecraft that means they don't read a lot of books? The pretention of the OP makes me not want to discuss anything in this thread that could have otherwise been very entertaining.

******.

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#49
Bryy_Miller

Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 07:08

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SirShreK wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Well, I do agree that Haven is loosely based on Innsmouth. I wonder if DA:o was influenced by Oblivion's Shadow Over Hackdirt quest.

Reavers = fish men/Deep-ones?

I don't think so, the idea of an ancient enemy is not exclusive to Lovecraft. But their design definitely could be/

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#50
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Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 07:11

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Well, I do agree that Haven is loosely based on Innsmouth. I wonder if DA:o was influenced by Oblivion's Shadow Over Hackdirt quest.

Reavers = fish men/Deep-ones?

I don't think so, the idea of an ancient enemy is not exclusive to Lovecraft. But their design definitely could be/

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Nono.. I meant if you think that the Reaver specialization is lik becoming "fishy" in the Shadow over Innsmouth story...

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#26 Khayness Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:19

#27 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:25

#28 Khayness Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:27

#29 TMZuk Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:27

#30 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:28

#31 Snowbug Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:35

#32 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:38

#33 Snowbug Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:42

#34 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:44

#35 Dick Delaware Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:45

#36 Khayness Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:49

#37 HoonDing Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:52

#38 Khayness Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:56

#39 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 05:57

#40 Khayness Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:01

#41 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:03

#42 Dick Delaware Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:11

#43 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:26

#44 Bryy_Miller Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:31

#45 Saint Joel Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:32

#46 Bryy_Miller Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:38

#47 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:40

#48 Narreneth Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 06:46

#49 Bryy_Miller Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 07:08

#50 Guest_SirShreK_* Posté 18 juillet 2010 - 07:11

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