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[BallaZs]

I have no concerns about DA2. I belive that the game is going to be great.

[Samb84]

BallaZs wrote...

I have no concerns about DA2. I belive that the game is going to be great.

I wish I could say the same...

Its just going to become one more of those cinematic games.. .

[Lord_Saulot]

Samb84 wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

I have no concerns about DA2. I belive that the game is going to be great.

I wish I could say the same...

Its just going to become one more of those cinematic games.. .

What do you understand "cinematic" to mean?

Because to me, DAO was plenty cinematic.

[Captain Jazz]

Samb84 wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

I have no concerns about DA2. I belive that the game is going to be great.

I wish I could say the same...

Its just going to become one more of those cinematic games.. .

Do you mean that it will have a coherent story and good graphics? That is somewhat expected with modern games.

[Nowshin]

I trust bioware will not disappoint us with DA2, and while I am concerned with many of the new systems I will cheer for them.   If I do complain it will be only after I played the game.

[BallaZs]

Samb84 wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

I have no concerns about DA2. I belive that the game is going to be great.

I wish I could say the same...

Its just going to become one more of those cinematic games.. .

I don't mind cinematic scenes if that was that u were meant.
As long as the game will have deep lore, intresting companions, great story, and customizable character like DA:O had, it's fine by me. Since I was playing as Human only, the concrete race doesn't bothers me, but I understand it does some of u guys. I think that we'll get more intresting Origin story in exchange.
Anyway from what I've heard DA2 is goint to be epic. My only concern is the 'mainstream' stuff. Let's just hope that they won't go on that way.

[Kenrae]

aries1001 wrote...

As far as the narrative structure (the story-telling) is concerned I think that as least Fahrenheit (an adventure game, remember those?)did something similar, Heavy Rain maybe, too? Overclocked, another adventure game (which is really, really good btw) does a similar thing like Bioware is trying to do. The story in overclocked is a re-telling of events that's happened in the past, but re-told in the present. And then there's a brilliant use of flash-backs. And like Dragon Age 2, the story in Overclocked is not told in chronological order - If Bioware manages to pull off the same level of story involvement (and flashbacks), then, I'll be a happy camper.

Obsidian has done it recently on Alpha Protocol. It was an amazing job.

[David Gaider]

Bratt1204 wrote...
I could care less about Devs communicating with their 'fanbase'. I am not a groupie - I am a paying customer - purchasing a product. I have not read a single positive/constructive post from a developer responding in a modest, non-condescending manner to a negative post.

Actually, I do this all the time. Perhaps it's just you.

Because this not communist China, I feel it is important to comment on things that disappoint. What I find insulting is smug game developers  thinking that they are coming up with the 'Next best thing" and trying to cram it down everyone's throat and marketing it as pure gold. It was clearly proven with Awakening - everything that we loved was taken away and the expansion was a extremely lackluster as a result. Yet all along we were being told to buy the game developers to buy it, play it and make our own decisions instead of reading reviews. Sorry, if I read a ton of rubbish reviews about a game, it most likely will be rubbish that I will not waste my money on.

Considering that you still will not be able to continue your relationship with Alistair, I don't imagine your opinion will change no matter what we do. You may consider it us "cramming something down your throat", but we're not forcing you to like anything nor are we under the illusion that we're going to make everyone happy with what we do... even those people who happen not to live in Communist China, or who read every developer post as if it were being narrated in their head by Snidely Whiplash.

[Fraevar]

David Gaider wrote...
[snip] who read every developer post as if it were being narrated in their head by Snidely Whiplash.

No, Snidely was sent into early retirement after he was discovered distorting the facts. All such reports are now being narrated by the imaginary "sexy" Flemeth voice 

[element eater]

im sure that bioware will make a very good game they usualy do.
what im not sure about is whether its going to interest me particularly, so far im not impressed but i will at least try and wait for more info

plus the screens look horrible hopefully they will improve its appearance before release

Modifié par element eater, 19 juillet 2010 - 07:56 .

[Valmy]

Samb84 wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

I have no concerns about DA2. I belive that the game is going to be great.

I wish I could say the same...

Its just going to become one more of those cinematic games.. .

DA was pretty cinematic...what exactly do you mean by cinematic?

Anyway they made a great game in DA and I am fairly certain they will learn from their successes and mistakes in DA, Awakenings, and the DLC to make a great game.

[Valmy]

BallaZs wrote...
My only concern is the 'mainstream' stuff. Let's just hope that they won't go on that way.

Heh.  Just being a full length non-sand box RPG is going out of the mainstream these days.

[Bratt1204]

David Gaider wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...
I could care less about Devs communicating with their 'fanbase'. I am not a groupie - I am a paying customer - purchasing a product. I have not read a single positive/constructive post from a developer responding in a modest, non-condescending manner to a negative post.

Actually, I do this all the time. Perhaps it's just you.

Because this not communist China, I feel it is important to comment on things that disappoint. What I find insulting is smug game developers  thinking that they are coming up with the 'Next best thing" and trying to cram it down everyone's throat and marketing it as pure gold. It was clearly proven with Awakening - everything that we loved was taken away and the expansion was a extremely lackluster as a result. Yet all along we were being told to buy the game developers to buy it, play it and make our own decisions instead of reading reviews. Sorry, if I read a ton of rubbish reviews about a game, it most likely will be rubbish that I will not waste my money on.

Considering that you still will not be able to continue your relationship with Alistair, I don't imagine your opinion will change no matter what we do. You may consider it us "cramming something down your throat", but we're not forcing you to like anything nor are we under the illusion that we're going to make everyone happy with what we do... even those people who happen not to live in Communist China, or who read every developer post as if it were being narrated in their head by Snidely Whiplash.

You've proven my point exactly - smug, condescending remarks - as always. :whistle:

And what in the world does 'continuing a relationship with Alistair' have anything to do with my post? I'm sorry, did I miss something in MY own post that I was not aware of? 

Modifié par Bratt1204, 19 juillet 2010 - 08:28 .

[Khavos]

Valmy wrote...

BallaZs wrote...
My only concern is the 'mainstream' stuff. Let's just hope that they won't go on that way.

Heh.  Just being a full length non-sand box RPG is going out of the mainstream these days.

Uh, what?

[Tonia Laird]

Being one of the new kids working at BioWare, I'm still working on my "thick hide", so it's cool to see this thread. Actually, I have to admit, it's been cool seeing all the threads, positive and negative. I'm amazed by the passion the developers and the players have for the Dragon Age universe. (Maybe I shouldn't be so amazed, though... I was a huge DA:O fiend before starting here!)

[Grommash94]

Bratt1204 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...
I could care less about Devs communicating with their 'fanbase'. I am not a groupie - I am a paying customer - purchasing a product. I have not read a single positive/constructive post from a developer responding in a modest, non-condescending manner to a negative post.

Actually, I do this all the time. Perhaps it's just you.

Because this not communist China, I feel it is important to comment on things that disappoint. What I find insulting is smug game developers  thinking that they are coming up with the 'Next best thing" and trying to cram it down everyone's throat and marketing it as pure gold. It was clearly proven with Awakening - everything that we loved was taken away and the expansion was a extremely lackluster as a result. Yet all along we were being told to buy the game developers to buy it, play it and make our own decisions instead of reading reviews. Sorry, if I read a ton of rubbish reviews about a game, it most likely will be rubbish that I will not waste my money on.

Considering that you still will not be able to continue your relationship with Alistair, I don't imagine your opinion will change no matter what we do. You may consider it us "cramming something down your throat", but we're not forcing you to like anything nor are we under the illusion that we're going to make everyone happy with what we do... even those people who happen not to live in Communist China, or who read every developer post as if it were being narrated in their head by Snidely Whiplash.

You've proven my point exactly - smug, condescending remarks - as always. :whistle:

And what in the world does 'continuing a relationship with Alistair' have anything to do with my post? I'm sorry, did I miss something in MY own post that I was not aware of? 

Just, let it go. If you are so disappointed with the game, the devs, and have no hope for it whatsoever, then why even bother posting on the forum?

That too in a more positive post. There are plenty other threads where you can voice your disappointment and disdain.

Modifié par Grommash94, 19 juillet 2010 - 08:46 .

[Quinnzel]

Hmm, to quote some Batman, "I believe in Harvey Dent."

I have faith in Bioware. 10 years of gaming and they havent failed me yet. Bring on DA2 i say!

I believe in David Gaider.

Modifié par Quinnzel, 19 juillet 2010 - 08:52 .

[Addai]

David Gaider wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...
I could care less about Devs communicating with their 'fanbase'. I am not a groupie - I am a paying customer - purchasing a product. I have not read a single positive/constructive post from a developer responding in a modest, non-condescending manner to a negative post.

Actually, I do this all the time. Perhaps it's just you.

He did.  I was on the receiving end of one such.  The devs have been very fair to the complainers, for the most part.  I'm sure they're doing it as damage control/ marketing and not just out of the kindness of their hearts, but it's appreciated nonetheless.

Because this not communist China, I feel it is important to comment on things that disappoint. What I find insulting is smug game developers  thinking that they are coming up with the 'Next best thing" and trying to cram it down everyone's throat and marketing it as pure gold. It was clearly proven with Awakening - everything that we loved was taken away and the expansion was a extremely lackluster as a result. Yet all along we were being told to buy the game developers to buy it, play it and make our own decisions instead of reading reviews. Sorry, if I read a ton of rubbish reviews about a game, it most likely will be rubbish that I will not waste my money on.

Considering that you still will not be able to continue your relationship with Alistair, I don't imagine your opinion will change no matter what we do. You may consider it us "cramming something down your throat", but we're not forcing you to like anything nor are we under the illusion that we're going to make everyone happy with what we do... even those people who happen not to live in Communist China, or who read every developer post as if it were being narrated in their head by Snidely Whiplash.

I would guess she means things like the depth of NPC interaction we were used to in Origins, which was also a frustration of mine in the expansion. 

Modifié par Addai67, 19 juillet 2010 - 08:53 .

[Lintanis]

Grommash94 wrote..

Just, let it go. If you are so disappointed with the game, the devs, and have no hope for it whatsoever, then why even bother posting on the forum?

That too in a more positive post. There are plenty other threads where you can voice your disappointment and disdain.

let them moan its really funny to read 

[David Gaider]

Bratt1204 wrote...
You've proven my point exactly - smug, condescending remarks - as always.

Hey, I'd hate to disappoint the whole martyr thing you've got going. Take it as a gift, by all means.

And what in the world does 'continuing a relationship with Alistair' have anything to do with my post? I'm sorry, did I miss something in MY own post that I was not aware of? 

You didn't pop into existence in this thread. I'm well aware of the melodramatic threads you posted in regarding the source of all your disappointment -- which is fine, I completely understand that we didn't live up to your expectations. Which is exactly my point. The fact that people might fear change isn't a suggestion that they're not going to feel completely justified for feeling as they do in the end, it's simply that the mere suggestion of it makes people leap to some very swift conclusions.

Which I'll assume is because people care so much. So that's a nice compliment. I hope in the end those people who are so fearful end up enjoying the game or, at the very least, give it a chance before they become determined to hate absolutely every last thing about it by association -- but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

Modifié par David Gaider, 19 juillet 2010 - 08:56 .

[Tora Panthera]

David Gaider wrote...

And what in the world does 'continuing a relationship with Alistair' have anything to do with my post? I'm sorry, did I miss something in MY own post that I was not aware of? 

You didn't pop into existence in this thread. I'm well aware of the melodramatic threads you posted in regarding the source of all your disappointment -- which is fine, I completely understand that we didn't live up to your expectations. Which is exactly my point. The fact that people might fear change isn't a suggestion that they're not going to feel completely justified for feeling as they do in the end, it's simply that the mere suggestion of it makes people leap to some very swift conclusions.

Which I'll assume is because people care so much. So that's a nice compliment. I hope in the end those people who are so fearful end up enjoying the game or, at the very least, give it a chance before they become determined to hate absolutely every last thing about it by association -- but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

David Gaider - HE KNOWS ALL!!!!!

[Solid N7]

Hepzi3 wrote...

Im going to say this.

With Mass Effect, It was my first Bioware game and I wouldnt have bought it if not for youtube vids. Mass Effect was one of my favorite games of all time.

Mass Effect 2 was a very similar result. Didnt like the story development, but the writing was incredibly good, the combat was arguably better than ME1,overall, amazing game.

I would not have bought Dragon Age if not for the Bioware seal of approval in the right hand corner of the box. Even then, I waited a lot longer than I should have and paid the price. I found myself with an absolutely incredible game that was very close to ME for me, with ME2's character development and writing mixed in. Bioware has never lead me wrong yet.

However, I am a bit concerned(totally unfairly) with DA 2. Some of the changes that are supposed to happen I am with and some I am against.

Either way, I totally expect Bioware to deliver another incredible title.

Congrats, guys and keep up the good work.

^this

[Bratt1204]

David Gaider wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...
You've proven my point exactly - smug, condescending remarks - as always.

Hey, I'd hate to disappoint the whole martyr thing you've got going. Take it as a gift, by all means.

And what in the world does 'continuing a relationship with Alistair' have anything to do with my post? I'm sorry, did I miss something in MY own post that I was not aware of? 

You didn't pop into existence in this thread. I'm well aware of the melodramatic threads you posted in regarding the source of all your disappointment -- which is fine, I completely understand that we didn't live up to your expectations. Which is exactly my point. The fact that people might fear change isn't a suggestion that they're not going to feel completely justified for feeling as they do in the end, it's simply that the mere suggestion of it makes people leap to some very swift conclusions.

Which I'll assume is because people care so much. So that's a nice compliment. I hope in the end those people who are so fearful end up enjoying the game or, at the very least, give it a chance before they become determined to hate absolutely every last thing about it by association -- but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.

Expressing one's disappointment in a civilized manner is not being melodramatic - it is simply stating one's opinion. I apologize, perhaps I should consider being Lobotomized in order to improve your opinion of how I phrase my posts:blink:. I believe you are the one being melodramatic in your description of my past posts and it is actually quite rude. I have a very open mind in regards to change and creative new ideas and storyline - when they are indeed good ideas that make sense and have continuity.

Modifié par Bratt1204, 19 juillet 2010 - 09:45 .

[ICevoL]

Adding my voice to those cheering on the developers. Despite some reservations about the changes that have been announced (re: human-only protagonist), I still believe DA2 will be a great game.

While I'm here, thanks for making such a great game in DA:O, you guys. I've played it literally hundreds of hours now and am still finding new "tidbits" in the narrative I haven't seen before. Thanks for the many, many hours of entertainment I've had so far and the ones still to come.

Modifié par ICevoL, 19 juillet 2010 - 09:51 .

[WilliamShatner]

Quinnzel wrote...

Hmm, to quote some Batman, "I believe in Harvey Dent."

I have faith in Bioware. 10 years of gaming and they havent failed me yet. Bring on DA2 i say!

I believe in David Gaider.

Yeah and look at how believeing in Harvery Dent turned out!  He became a pyschopathic murderer.