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[Tirigon]

David Gaider wrote...

That's an excellent question, if perhaps an academic one. Darkspawn don't breed, either... unless you want to call the process by which darkspawn are created by broodmothers breeding. Broodmothers technically aren't darkspawn themelves-- they're ghouls. So do the darkspawn qualify as living creatures in their own right?

Biologically speaking,, no. Breeding and digestion in some way or another are necessary signs of life.

According to our Biology teacher anyways:mellow:


But on the other hand, does it matter? Undead have rights too!!!

[iTomes]

well what concerns me more: do darkspawn drink? if youre born an adult you propably don't have to eat if you are supported by some taint or something....but living without drinking would require blood or something coming from....nowhere...right?

[joriandrake]

There are mages that are immortal in some settings because they feed on magical energy, while I don't say darkspawn are undead, they certainly have a feel like them but at the same time also resemble those mages who are still alive but not your average mortal neither.

Modifié par joriandrake, 18 juillet 2010 - 10:06 .

[2papercuts]

David Gaider wrote...

tmelange wrote...
This. Are they, then, not living? How exactly does a blood "corruption" serve as nourishment, or are they just animated dead?

That's an excellent question, if perhaps an academic one. Darkspawn don't breed, either... unless you want to call the process by which darkspawn are created by broodmothers breeding. Broodmothers technically aren't darkspawn themelves-- they're ghouls. So do the darkspawn qualify as living creatures in their own right?

so if "corruption" serves as nourishment, then why do wardens eat more? wouldn't they eat less? i think there a conversation about that in DAO

[DespiertaLosNinos]

joriandrake wrote...

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

David Gaider wrote...



Darkspawn don't require food for sustenance. The corruption within them keeps them alive. They can eat... but if they do so they do it for reasons other than dietary.

So they are almost like game developers then?

except their payment is even lower, imagine that!

I get it now! The blight is just the darkspawn's way protesting their current economic and geographical status and the grey wardens are fascists trying to keep them down.....underground.....with the smelly dwarves...

[David Gaider]

DanteCousland wrote...
If I may ask david, How do Broodmothers give birth.

There are no eggs, no-- or you would probably have seen evidence of that. I'm not sure I want to go into detail regarding what an immature darkspawn looks like, but if you used the Children of Awakening as a guide you wouldn't be far off.

[Herr Uhl]

2papercuts wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

tmelange wrote...
This. Are they, then, not living? How exactly does a blood "corruption" serve as nourishment, or are they just animated dead?

That's an excellent question, if perhaps an academic one. Darkspawn don't breed, either... unless you want to call the process by which darkspawn are created by broodmothers breeding. Broodmothers technically aren't darkspawn themelves-- they're ghouls. So do the darkspawn qualify as living creatures in their own right?

so if "corruption" serves as nourishment, then why do wardens eat more? wouldn't they eat less? i think there a conversation about that in DAO

The taint speeds up their aging. That is what I assume it is at least.

[tmelange]

David Gaider wrote...

tmelange wrote...
This. Are they, then, not living? How exactly does a blood "corruption" serve as nourishment, or are they just animated dead?

That's an excellent question, if perhaps an academic one. Darkspawn don't breed, either... unless you want to call the process by which darkspawn are created by broodmothers breeding. Broodmothers technically aren't darkspawn themelves-- they're ghouls. So do the darkspawn qualify as living creatures in their own right?

Eww. All I can say is that I'm glad that I killed the Architect. LOL

I now have to replay DAO and all DLC with this new info in mind! )

(Of course, now I have to re-think the whole broodmother thing. She's a ghoul? The way it plays out in the game implies a rape of some sort, and insemination, along with the ingestion of darkspawn flesh. But if the darkpawn are not living, and are not raping and inseminating, what exactly is the broodmother creation and impregnation process? Is it mystical? Does it require something not shown on screen, like the inclusion of a darkspawn mage? I guess it would have to be mystical, since she's a ghoul. Very interesting...)

[Sabariel]

As I understood it they eat flesh just so they can yarf it back up later and force feed it to some poor human/dwarven/elven/qunari woman. Eww.

Modifié par Sabariel, 18 juillet 2010 - 10:08 .

[Andaius20]

I thought Darkspawn eat the dead. AKA when Morrigan says you don't want to know what they where doing to the people in ostegar.

[David Gaider]

2papercuts wrote...
so if "corruption" serves as nourishment, then why do wardens eat more? wouldn't they eat less? i think there a conversation about that in DAO

The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn? Perhaps a Warden's body needs nourishment in order to combat the spread of what is effectively a disease they've taken into their own system. Perhaps their body just doesn't like the "nourishment" it's being provided, or prevents the Warden from properly taking nourishment from food so they have to eat more. Perhaps it speeds up their metabolism (something darkspawn perhaps don't possess). Take your pick.

Modifié par David Gaider, 18 juillet 2010 - 10:09 .

[Tirigon]

Andaius20 wrote...

I thought Darkspawn eat the dead. AKA when Morrigan says you don't want to know what they where doing to the people in ostegar.

I guess she referred to turning them. Just eating them wouldn´t scare Morrigan anyways.

[Tirigon]

David Gaider wrote...

The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn?

Don´t they turn into Darkspawn if they refuse the Calling?

I don´t want to spoiler your books too much to those who haven´t read them yet but there are events who made me think they do.....

[joriandrake]

tmelange wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

tmelange wrote...
This. Are they, then, not living? How exactly does a blood "corruption" serve as nourishment, or are they just animated dead?

That's an excellent question, if perhaps an academic one. Darkspawn don't breed, either... unless you want to call the process by which darkspawn are created by broodmothers breeding. Broodmothers technically aren't darkspawn themelves-- they're ghouls. So do the darkspawn qualify as living creatures in their own right?

Eww. All I can say is that I'm glad that I killed the Architect. LOL

I now have to replay DAO and all DLC with this new info in mind! )

(Of course, now I have to re-think the whole broodmother thing. She's a ghoul? The way it plays out in the game implies a rape of some sort, and insemination, along with the ingestion of darkspawn flesh. But if the darkpawn are not living, and are not raping and inseminating, what exactly is the broodmother creation and impregnation process? Is it mystical? Does it require something not shown on screen, like the inclusion of a darkspawn mage? I guess it would have to be mystical, since she's a ghoul. Very interesting...)

intelligent darkspawn are like the Espada is to average Hollows

[Herr Uhl]

Tirigon wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn?

Don´t they turn into Darkspawn if they refuse the Calling?

I don´t want to spoiler your books too much to those who haven´t read them yet but there are events who made me think they do.....

I thought that involved loosing your soul. Which they have during their wardening days.

[lv12medic]

Maker, why did I start looking at this thread after eating lunch? 

Anyways, I suppose the Darkspawn not having a real digestive systems helps living deep underground most of the time, they don't need to worry about waste management issues.  Or is that what the Blight is? 

[DanteCousland]

well we can take an educated guess that the immature darkspawn may go through a cacoon phase as seen by the "cacoon" like growths that the childer grubs emerged from. I think it'd definitely be an idea to explore in some lore, or a new book. The darkspawn are fascinating and it'd be great to know more about the ins and outs of there physiology and lifespan, speaking of which. Do darkspawn age?. I assume they do as there was the "Childer Grub" and then the "Adult Childer". Since they age do they have lifespans equivalent to humans, or shorter/longer. Sorry for picking your brains. I just find it interesting.

[Tirigon]

lv12medic wrote...

Maker, why did I start looking at this thread after eating lunch? 

Anyways, I suppose the Darkspawn not having a real digestive systems helps living deep underground most of the time, they don't need to worry about waste management issues.  Or is that what the Blight is? 

Lol. The thought of the Blight as just dropping a crapload (pun intended) of crap on the surface is making me laugh.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[David Gaider]

Tirigon wrote...
Don´t they turn into Darkspawn if they refuse the Calling?

I don´t want to spoiler your books too much to those who haven´t read them yet but there are events who made me think they do.....

No, they don't turn into darkspawn. A ghoul is any living creature that has been afflicted with the darkspawn corruption and survived the process-- and there are different stages from your typical (the standard "ghoul" you encounter, or creatures such as the blight wolf or the bereskarn) to the very advanced (the broodmother, a being who has had their corruption artificially accelerated). A darkspawn is a creature that is born from a ghoul, but that's the only way they're created.

[Majin Paul]

Tirigon wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn?

Don´t they turn into Darkspawn if they refuse the Calling?

I don´t want to spoiler your books too much to those who haven´t read them yet but there are events who made me think they do.....

It sounded more like the taint just starts to affect the wardens on a more noticable way over time, evolving from dreams to bad skin and hearing voices/singing.

[joriandrake]

SO, one can assume the first "ghouls" from where darkspawn come were not natural and someone made them, this makes it also likely that there are ghouls making darkspawn not just based on human/elf/dwarf/quanari but also possibly on dragons/animals/...griffons?

[joriandrake]

Majin Paul wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

The corruption serves as nourishment to darkspawn... and Wardens are not darkspawn?

Don´t they turn into Darkspawn if they refuse the Calling?

I don´t want to spoiler your books too much to those who haven´t read them yet but there are events who made me think they do.....

It sounded more like the taint just starts to affect the wardens on a more noticable way over time, evolving from dreams to bad skin and hearing voices/singing.

mad dwarf in cave

[David Gaider]

joriandrake wrote...
SO, one can assume the first "ghouls" from where darkspawn come were not natural and someone made them, this makes it also likely that there are ghouls making darkspawn not just based on human/elf/dwarf/quanari but also possibly on dragons/animals/...griffons?

Now I'm trying to picture what a High Dragon broodmother would look like.

Hmm.

[joriandrake]

David Gaider wrote...

joriandrake wrote...
SO, one can assume the first "ghouls" from where darkspawn come were not natural and someone made them, this makes it also likely that there are ghouls making darkspawn not just based on human/elf/dwarf/quanari but also possibly on dragons/animals/...griffons?

Now I'm trying to picture what a High Dragon broodmother would look like.

Hmm.

I hope I gave you some nice ideas for DA3

[Andaius20]

Xenomorph queen?