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KappaOmicron

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I would just like to say I am loving the path Dragon Age II is taking due to mainly them going into a Mass Effect style with how you interact in conversation cut-scenes and the fact that now our character has a voice, it will also allow us to have more emotion within the conversation between your companions and the other people we may meet in DA: II.

I honest am not bothered the slightest about being restricted to be a human because I personally prefered humans and since we now have a voice, it would be too costly to have multiple voice actors to voice different races, because let's face it, Dwarves don't really sound like humans and neither do Elves.

However to you all that are unhappy about you having to be a human, you have to understand it is for the best because it seriously opens up so much more emotion and interest within cut-scenes, just look at Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 for examples, Bioware really out-done themselves with how immerse the conversation were within those games and now that the fact is they are implementing it into DA: II is fantastic news.

I don't know about you guys, but for my first playthrough, I am going to be the default Hawke because that is exactly what I did with the Mass Effect games where I was the default John Shepard and instead of putting myself into the game, I put on the shoes of John Shepard and made the decisions what I thought he would do and then once I completed it I would then go to make my custom characters to create specific role plays with them, which is what I plan on doing with DA: II.

I only have three characters in Dragon Age: Origins because there were only three different paths I wanted to have for the next Dragon Age game.

I am interested in hearing what you all think on the path Dragon Age II is taking, but please don't hate on it because it has race restrictions now, just try to see the bigger picture on this. :)

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well i kinda like the course. the most flawed thing of MEs dialoques was the morality system and without it and hero stereotypes well propably get really interesting conversations^^

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Some like it, some don't. I'm just hoping for a very good story from the limitations placed (limitations being race, and that's about it....), one with good replay value and plenty of choices to make. Maybe a good puzzle here or there. A Codex that is organized better, maybe larger. Other stuff...

Anyway, I'll be happy with the path if it's worth it, and I won't find out til it's released.

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I am looking forward to the game, although I am not sure I like the fully voiced protagonist part. I can get over that though, as long BioWare makes a good game.

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I liked having a custom hero for the game. I dont particularly like the idea of being limited as this Hawke pc.

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KappaOmicron wrote...
and since we now have a voice, it would be too costly to have multiple voice actors to voice different races, because let's face it, Dwarves don't really sound like humans and neither do Elves.


Oh yes they do! In DA they all sound the same. That's why I supported voice acting for an eventual prequel. But if I knew they would make the character selection even less diverse because of this I wouldn't have been so supportive.. :sick:

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Doyle41 wrote...

I liked having a custom hero for the game. I dont particularly like the idea of being limited as this Hawke pc.


aye

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But you have to remember Doyle41 that Hawke is just what everyone in the game is going to refer to you as, similar to Mass Effect's John Shepard I believe, you can choose your first name, but everyone in the game always calls you by your last, and it's been confirmed that Hawke is your last name so you will be able to choose your first and also you can use to have the default Hawke model, or create a custom model yourself.

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Hawke still remains a human no matter how much it is costumizable

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I'm looking forward to the game as well, but I try to get away from humanity when I play RPGs(because to me humanity is kind of.....ugh) I would've preferred they stick with the old dialouge system but as long as Bioware makes DA2 great I'm happy.

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Actually you two, if you noticed all of the Dwarves sounded American and the humans sounded British from what i've played of DA:O, and the Elves always sound a bit soft with their voices compared to everyone else.

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KappaOmicron wrote...

Actually you two, if you noticed all of the Dwarves sounded American and the humans sounded British from what i've played of DA:O, and the Elves always sound a bit soft with their voices compared to everyone else.


I really, REALLY don't care much about accents, english is not even my mother language, in my opinion I wouldn't mind if all males from all races of hawke would sound the same, just as all female Hawke's from all races, aslong the game allows to pick a race other than human.

Modifié par joriandrake, 19 juillet 2010 - 12:58 .


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KappaOmicron wrote...

I would just like to say I am loving the path Dragon Age II is taking due to mainly them going into a Mass Effect style with how you interact in conversation cut-scenes and the fact that now our character has a voice, it will also allow us to have more emotion within the conversation between your companions and the other people we may meet in DA: II.

I honest am not bothered the slightest about being restricted to be a human because I personally prefered humans and since we now have a voice, it would be too costly to have multiple voice actors to voice different races, because let's face it, Dwarves don't really sound like humans and neither do Elves.

However to you all that are unhappy about you having to be a human, you have to understand it is for the best because it seriously opens up so much more emotion and interest within cut-scenes, just look at Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 for examples, Bioware really out-done themselves with how immerse the conversation were within those games and now that the fact is they are implementing it into DA: II is fantastic news.

I don't know about you guys, but for my first playthrough, I am going to be the default Hawke because that is exactly what I did with the Mass Effect games where I was the default John Shepard and instead of putting myself into the game, I put on the shoes of John Shepard and made the decisions what I thought he would do and then once I completed it I would then go to make my custom characters to create specific role plays with them, which is what I plan on doing with DA: II.

I only have three characters in Dragon Age: Origins because there were only three different paths I wanted to have for the next Dragon Age game.

I am interested in hearing what you all think on the path Dragon Age II is taking, but please don't hate on it because it has race restrictions now, just try to see the bigger picture on this. :)



The thing is, all the things that for you, increase emotion and interest, reduce it to the same degree for people who prefer first person games. For those people, such as myself, this is a very, very bad thing. For me, hearing an actors voice speaking the lines in incredibly distancing, because unless one is very, very lucky, they aren't the voice you imagine for your character, or the intonation. There's a 'who's that guy talking, and why is he here?' feeling. For people who feel this way, the character is no longer you, but someone else. You're going to find that some feel as you do, and others feel as I do, and there's a lot of strong emotion about it right now.

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If Hawke had a pretty deep voice and you could be an Elf, it would look ridiculous, you cannot deny that.

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KappaOmicron wrote...

If Hawke had a pretty deep voice and you could be an Elf, it would look ridiculous, you cannot deny that.


There can be elves with deep voices, I think it would rather be cool and not ridiculous.

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well a race other than human has 1 problem: other then our warden hawke shall become a more historical person, like a king or something. and elves dont become kings or something of humans.

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You say there can but I have not met one Elf in Dragon Age: Origins with a deep voice.

I don't see why people are making such a big deal about races, there is nothing wrong with being a human, we shouldn't complain about such things but discuss on what is being improved by doing this.

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We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. Your life as it has been is over. From this time forward, you will service us. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.



Have I got you there, OP?

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KappaOmicron wrote...

I would just like to say I am loving the path Dragon Age II is taking due to mainly them going into a Mass Effect style with how you interact in conversation cut-scenes and the fact that now our character has a voice, it will also allow us to have more emotion within the conversation between your companions and the other people we may meet in DA: II.

I honest am not bothered the slightest about being restricted to be a human because I personally prefered humans and since we now have a voice, it would be too costly to have multiple voice actors to voice different races, because let's face it, Dwarves don't really sound like humans and neither do Elves.

However to you all that are unhappy about you having to be a human, you have to understand it is for the best because it seriously opens up so much more emotion and interest within cut-scenes, just look at Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 for examples, Bioware really out-done themselves with how immerse the conversation were within those games and now that the fact is they are implementing it into DA: II is fantastic news.

I don't know about you guys, but for my first playthrough, I am going to be the default Hawke because that is exactly what I did with the Mass Effect games where I was the default John Shepard and instead of putting myself into the game, I put on the shoes of John Shepard and made the decisions what I thought he would do and then once I completed it I would then go to make my custom characters to create specific role plays with them, which is what I plan on doing with DA: II.

I only have three characters in Dragon Age: Origins because there were only three different paths I wanted to have for the next Dragon Age game.

I am interested in hearing what you all think on the path Dragon Age II is taking, but please don't hate on it because it has race restrictions now, just try to see the bigger picture on this. :)



rascist

and lemme guess all your characters were human "gewd guyz"

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joriandrake wrote...

KappaOmicron wrote...

Actually you two, if you noticed all of the Dwarves sounded American and the humans sounded British from what i've played of DA:O, and the Elves always sound a bit soft with their voices compared to everyone else.


I really, REALLY don't care much about accents, english is not even my mother language, in my opinion I wouldn't mind if all males from all races of hawke would sound the same, just as all female Hawke's from all races, aslong the game allows to pick a race other than human.


I'm thinking Hawke is limited to Human because of plot purposes, because limiting it only due to VO makes no sense, as he/she grew up in Lothering and would get an accent from growing up there, be it a surface dwarf, town elf, or human farmer.
Anyway, not a dealbreaker in any way to me, as long as classes aren't cut and I'm forced to be a Reaver or whatever.

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Why are you making a humerous joke about Sovereign from Mass Effect? There is no relevance to DA: II.

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KappaOmicron wrote...

You say there can but I have not met one Elf in Dragon Age: Origins with a deep voice.

I don't see why people are making such a big deal about races, there is nothing wrong with being a human, we shouldn't complain about such things but discuss on what is being improved by doing this.

Humans are complete Douchebags in DA:O.

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

and lemme guess all your characters were human "gewd guyz"


Of course. Everyone knows that humans are the superior race, which is why the dwarves are dying out and the elven culture is pretty much dead. Woo humans!

O, S**T, Qunari cannon fire! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!

... ummm, GLORY TO THE QUN! Did I get that right?

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

KappaOmicron wrote...

I would just like to say I am loving the path Dragon Age II is taking due to mainly them going into a Mass Effect style with how you interact in conversation cut-scenes and the fact that now our character has a voice, it will also allow us to have more emotion within the conversation between your companions and the other people we may meet in DA: II.

I honest am not bothered the slightest about being restricted to be a human because I personally prefered humans and since we now have a voice, it would be too costly to have multiple voice actors to voice different races, because let's face it, Dwarves don't really sound like humans and neither do Elves.

However to you all that are unhappy about you having to be a human, you have to understand it is for the best because it seriously opens up so much more emotion and interest within cut-scenes, just look at Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 for examples, Bioware really out-done themselves with how immerse the conversation were within those games and now that the fact is they are implementing it into DA: II is fantastic news.

I don't know about you guys, but for my first playthrough, I am going to be the default Hawke because that is exactly what I did with the Mass Effect games where I was the default John Shepard and instead of putting myself into the game, I put on the shoes of John Shepard and made the decisions what I thought he would do and then once I completed it I would then go to make my custom characters to create specific role plays with them, which is what I plan on doing with DA: II.

I only have three characters in Dragon Age: Origins because there were only three different paths I wanted to have for the next Dragon Age game.

I am interested in hearing what you all think on the path Dragon Age II is taking, but please don't hate on it because it has race restrictions now, just try to see the bigger picture on this. :)



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and lemme guess all your characters were human "gewd guyz"


Yes all of my characters were humans because I couldn't stand being a Dwarf with an American accent and not Scottish and being an Elf because they had baby faces and looked like children.

I'm sorry but that is my opinon on the other races in Dragon Age and it is why I am not affected by them restricting it to humans in DA: II but you are all complaining in vein, they are not going to add other races strictly because they have already said they have the voices covered and that Hawke is a human. End of story. It is them as game developers to create a game how they want it with fan input obviously but of course they're views and opinions on certain subjects is always going to be stronger.

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C9316 wrote...

Humans are complete Douchebags in DA:O.


As much as the elves were.