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[Nightwriter]

Just curious.

On Purgatory, where you walk by and see the guards putting the stomp on the cellmate. Do you stop them?

[AntiChri5]

Stop them Every damn time.

Well, except for one of my Shepards.

i dont like that one, hes kind of an ****.

Hope he dies in ME 3.

Modifié par AntiChri5, 19 juillet 2010 - 01:05 .

[ZephSunstrider]

I'm a emontionally unstable sociopath, with a taste for extremes and a slight tendency towards madness. I approve of senseless violence á la Serious Sam.



Yet, I always stop him.

[Spartas Husky]

I do.



he is in space, deprived of everything, he is a scum bag with no morals to be there, but he already lost everything, making his life worse, and loosing my heart just for self satisfaction wont make an example to other criminals not to do it...or bring back people.



Nobody is there to see him be miserable, so there is no point in beating him to a pulp, it serves no purpose beyon self degradation, and self satisfaction.

[AntiChri5]

Why, Shand?

****s and giggles?

Modifié par AntiChri5, 19 juillet 2010 - 01:09 .

[Antic]

I STOP him!

[ZephSunstrider]

I did like the line "Yeah, sucks to be Brimmy right now." though.

[wulf3n]

If Paragon - Stop

If Renegade - Let Continue



situations like that give easy Para/Rene points.

[AntiChri5]

Shandepared wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Why, Shand?

****s and giggles?

I don't see any reason to get all emotional about a guard beating on a menace to society. He's getting what he deserves.

Basic human decency not enough for you?

Rights belonging to all sentient beings?

How about the fact that they are aliens beating on a human?

[Nightwriter]

I am continually torn about the decision. I have this irrational mercilessness for predators who hurt victims for pleasure.

But then I talk to the other cellmate, who tells me the more the guards beat the prisoners, the meaner and crueler they get, so they rotate them through.

It seems the only ones getting ultimately hurt by this are the guards.

[AntiChri5]

Shandepared wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Basic human decency not enough for you?

Rights belonging to all sentient beings?

How about the fact that they are aliens beating on a human?

To be in that prison in the first place he must have done something pretty bad.

I reserve my sympathy for people who actually deserve it.

So in other words, you believe that certain actions are so heinous they result in the complete and total surrendering of human rights?

You too Night?

[Nightwriter]

I admit an almost medieval take on punishment for persons of cruelty at times. 

Are you really asking me if I would feel sympathy if I saw Ted Bundy getting beaten? No. Not after having familiarized myself with the details of his crimes. I'd even say it's what he deserves.

But it comes down to what the point of it is, and who's truly benefiting. The beatings are making that prisoner no better and making the guards even worse, even meaner. And these are guards who are not going to rot safely in prison, but are going home to their families.

[Spartas Husky]

Nightwriter wrote...

I admit an almost medieval take on punishment for persons of cruelty at times. 

Are you really asking me if I would feel sympathy if I saw Ted Bundy getting beaten? No. Not after having familiarized myself with the details of his crimes. I'd even say it's what he deserves.

But it comes down to what the point of it is, and who's truly benefiting. The beatings are making that prisoner no better and making the guards even worse, even meaner. And these are guards who are not going to rot safely in prison, but are going home to their families.

right there, most of my reason for stopping them is to help the guards....but a part is pity nevertheless.

Thanks, Nigh, you put most of my thoughts down already lol

[AntiChri5]

Lets take the metaphor as far as we can, Godwin the crap out of your poor little thread, and ask:



If you saw Hitler being beaten up, would you



a) Feel sympathy and intervene.



Feel sympathy but not intervene.



c) Feel no sympathy but still intervene.



d) Feel no sympathy and do not intervene.



e) Join in.



f) Intervene, but only so you can kidnap Hitler and take him to Israel and charge people ten dollars per kick.

[maegi46]

if a prisoner ****s up and kills another one or attacks a guard, i'd say he deserved it, but those guys are just beating on that prisoner for no reason, other than theymust be masochists. I stop them. I told them once he deserves it just to see what happens, but if it was a real situation and not a game , i'd try to stop it.

[maegi46]

I don't see the relevance of saying Ted Bundy or Hitler, those 2 would deserve whatever they got, this fellow in the game, we don't know what his crimes were or if he's even guilty, and the guards when questioned or is it the other prisoner says they just do it for fun basically. That's wrong.

[StefanBW]

It's a tough decision. Especially when the guard says "this is a massage compared to what his victims went through".

Anyway, it's just a game so I pick the paragon option for the paragon points, yep. :innocent:

[Spartas Husky]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Lets take the metaphor as far as we can, Godwin the crap out of your poor little thread, and ask:

If you saw Hitler being beaten up, would you

a) Feel sympathy and intervene.

Feel sympathy but not intervene.

c) Feel no sympathy but still intervene.

d) Feel no sympathy and do not intervene.

e) Join in.

f) Intervene, but only so you can kidnap Hitler and take him to Israel and charge people ten dollars per kick.

Push my way to him pull out a pistol, and shoot him.

For the crowds sake, mostly.

I am not watching others degrade themselves like that bastard did. He wont bother anyone, and he got what he deserved. End of it.

[Nightwriter]

AntiChri5 wrote...

c) Feel no sympathy but still intervene.

d) Feel no sympathy and do not intervene.

Damn it, I started this thread because I'm completely torn between these two.

Emotional justice isn't the same thing as logical justice, and it is between these two forces that I struggle.

Logical justice is satisfied when it is safely confirmed that the perpetrator cannot hurt anyone anymore.

Emotional justice is not satisfied until that perpetrator has been fully punished for the pain and suffering he has inflicted upon others.

Emotional justice roars for the beating to continue. Logical justice says, "Seriously, man, let it go. What's the point? You're above that."

Emotional justice turns to logical justice and says, "Man, you're probably the better of we two, but most of the time you just ain't the strongest."

[krasnoarmeets]

Depends on the Shepard I'm playing, but my natural instinct would be to stop them.