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[CroGamer002]

I didn't let him continue beating him up since I gain more Renegade points if I intimidate him.

[Habelo]

I let it continue. Why? Cause there is nothing wrong with it.

[Cheese Elemental]

I always stop him. Being locked up in a spaceship for the rest of your life is enough. Torture as punishment is something that any civilised species needs to leave behind. It achieves nothing and, as Shepard points out, it degrades the torturer as much as his victim.

[didymos1120]

thegreateski wrote...

raptor1906 wrote...
And from what I remember even if you choose the paragon option, that trash still sends you a threatening email after the mission.

Nah. That E-mail was from the guy in the cell next to his. The one you talk to.

The email was from some guy named Billy.  The one being beaten was named Bimmy.  The dude you talk to is unnamed, as is the next one down the line (the one who likes hearing the screaming in his head).  None of them are good candidates for being Billy.  Read the email:

Title: (Untitled)
From: (Error, Invalid Sender Name)

Hey Shepherd heard I have you to thank for getting out of Purgatory (sent a ship to round me up, but they didn't weapons-check good enough)! I'm gonna carve your name instead of mine into my next victim as thanks, got anyone you need dead (haha)? You did take a shot at me though on my way out so I have to kill you, you know how it goes. Dad taught me that you let anybody hurt you, they get ideas so you make sure to send a message, not like I'm sending now, though! See you around, the people who live here are coming back and it's showtime! Look around for your name, I'll make sure you find it before Ifind you! Billy…

That "heard I have you to thank" isn't the kind of thing someone who just saw your well-armed group entering the prison immediately before all hell broke loose would say, even if they didn't know your name.  Also, you couldn't go back to that cellblock.  You had to take a completely different route to leave, and so it's pretty damn unlikely that you took a shot at any of those guys. Why?  Because someone on their way out would not only not run further into the prison, they would also not run into higher security wings that were playing host to a running gun battle between you and a bajilllion guards at the time. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 19 juillet 2010 - 10:31 .

[Tin Soldier]

Sursion wrote...

I let it continue. Aside from being none of my damn business, if you ever talked to the other prisoners, you'd know that he killed someone in the showers. Not to mention he's at Purgatory in the first place, which means he probably did something terrible to begin with. He deserves it.

No, if you talk to prisoner 780 you learn that a guy who hasn't showered in three months thinks he killed someone in the showers yesterday.

[Titanium Man]

didymos1120 wrote...
The email was from some guy named Billy.  The one being beaten was named Bimmy.

Bimmy isn't even a real name!

[Nightwriter]

Boys, do you really think you are teaching the prisoner anything by beating him?

He has become entrenched in a life of violence, and you are responding to that with more violence.

You are reinforcing the codes of conduct in which he lives. Survivalism, barbarity, mercilessness. You are achieving nothing by inflicting these old friends upon him, nothing except his suffering, which I might argue is an end unto itself.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I stop them. Even with my Renegade chick, at first I chose "This is justice.", then I was like "Oh, that's totally not right", then I reloaded and chose the Paragon option. Prisoner, yes. Did bad things, yes. But he's ultimately human.

[Gumbeaux Jr]

I shame the guard for the monster he is, then go on to kill the rest of the guards (and some of the prisoners) in the cell block.

[Nightwriter]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I stop them. Even with my Renegade chick, at first I chose "This is justice.", then I was like "Oh, that's totally not right", then I reloaded and chose the Paragon option. Prisoner, yes. Did bad things, yes. But he's ultimately human.

Is he?

[AntiChri5]

Unfortunately, yes.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Nightwriter wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I stop them. Even with my Renegade chick, at first I chose "This is justice.", then I was like "Oh, that's totally not right", then I reloaded and chose the Paragon option. Prisoner, yes. Did bad things, yes. But he's ultimately human.

Is he?

Sorry, been a a bit since my last playthrough. I'm pretty sure he was human, though. Either way, nothing justifies beating him up like that. Human or not.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 19 juillet 2010 - 03:42 .

[Nightwriter]

I believe in a threshold that, once crossed, a human being must expect to forfeit their human rights.

PS: That was a philosophical question, Phoenix.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 19 juillet 2010 - 03:44 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Nightwriter wrote...

I believe in a threshold that, once crossed, a human being must expect to forfeit their human rights.

PS: That was a philosophical question, Phoenix.

Point taken.

[inversevideo]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I stop them. Even with my Renegade chick, at first I chose "This is justice.", then I was like "Oh, that's totally not right", then I reloaded and chose the Paragon option. Prisoner, yes. Did bad things, yes. But he's ultimately human.

This.

[Nightwriter]

I actually ultimately agree with Phoenix's and Chri5's decision, but for very different reasons.

The beating should not be stopped because of this human rights business. He's getting what he deserves. I have no sympathy. As long as it is still up to other human beings to decide who is deserving of human rights and who isn't, he'll never have any. His suffering doesn't matter.

The beating should be stopped because it's achieving nothing other than the degradation of the guards. That does matter. That prisoner can do no more damage to the world; the guards can.

[AntiChri5]

I dont think its a question of whether or not some acts result in rights being revoked.



The fact that they are imprisoned is proof enough of that. So its clear that some rights have been revoked.



Its a question of what actions and what rights. What rights can never be taken? What justifies what treatment?

[Kronner]

Yes, too bad I could not join in.

[lovgreno]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

I stop them. Even with my Renegade chick, at first I chose "This is justice.", then I was like "Oh, that's totally not right", then I reloaded and chose the Paragon option. Prisoner, yes. Did bad things, yes. But he's ultimately human.

Actualy you can convince the guards to stop with renegade options too. Wich makes sense when you think about it.
Beating the prisoners are pointless so I use renegade or paragon dialouge choices to make them go do something usefull instead.