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[Legbiter]

Landline wrote...

Who knows, in DA 2 we'll probably won't ever see our warden if we imported a game, but we might see the ripples he/she left.

Yes.

[2papercuts]

since they are importing the files from DAO to DA2, could they import what your warden looked like? it would be pretty cool if you saw a statue of your warden or something

[Games4ever]

Don't cry because it's over;(with the Warden's) smile because it happened

[Dick Delaware]

The Warden's story is done, for all intents and purposes. Yeah, there might be DLC, but it won't be anything that advances the story or adds any good content.

[DA Trap Star]

I hope so too, after Awakening, I think there's not much more you can do. You only can milk Morrigan and the Warden's story so much.

[jjbens]

still i hope morrigan will play a part in the story

[UberDuber]

I hope not! but if they do decide to kill him off or whatever ... hopefully they will give us one hell of an expansion.

[CarlSpackler]

jjbens wrote...

still i hope morrigan will play a part in the story

I'd say its almost a certainty that she returns at somepoint, whether that means DA3 or DA7: The quest for more money  remains to be seen. 

For arguments sake though, lets say DA3 does indeed focus on Morrigan, that the DR becomes canon, and DA3 deals with the effects of the child.  I think it could be a stunning story to bring the Warden back.  It might require some other canonization that would likely spark more outrage (I mean I myself prefer the US ending) but if folks could get past that it has spectacular potential I think.  Playing your warden in his aging yrs, nearing the end of his life due to the taint, and the child comming into its power could be great drama.  I say "He" here but I think the drama factor is just as high for the female warden.  Of course all speculation, etc.

[Kandene]

There should be an expansion that explains why the darkspawn bleached their skin.

[RunNeonTiger]

CarlSpackler wrote...

jjbens wrote...

still i hope morrigan will play a part in the story

I'd say its almost a certainty that she returns at somepoint, whether that means DA3 or DA7: The quest for more money  remains to be seen. 

For arguments sake though, lets say DA3 does indeed focus on Morrigan, that the DR becomes canon, and DA3 deals with the effects of the child.  I think it could be a stunning story to bring the Warden back.  It might require some other canonization that would likely spark more outrage (I mean I myself prefer the US ending) but if folks could get past that it has spectacular potential I think.  Playing your warden in his aging yrs, nearing the end of his life due to the taint, and the child comming into its power could be great drama.  I say "He" here but I think the drama factor is just as high for the female warden.  Of course all speculation, etc.

But aren't Wardens only supposed to last until around thirty years old? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think our Warden would probably already be dead before the god baby even reaches its teens considering what age the warden was at the end of DA:O.

[jjbens]

since its just human for races then there should be more customization

[CarlSpackler]

RunNeonTiger wrote...
But aren't Wardens only supposed to last until around thirty years old? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think our Warden would probably already be dead before the god baby even reaches its teens considering what age the warden was at the end of DA:O.

Oh, that could be right I don't know.  I always thought that conversation with Alistair meant that once you received the taint you could live for approx 20 more yrs.  If thats the case then it is enough time, if not, well, c'est la vie.

Any dev like to clarify how long wardens live?

[Brockololly]

Even if you didn't do the DR, I think it makes the most sense to have the Warden dealing with Morrigan related shenanigans in the future. They already have a history with her for better or worse and it would be nice to have that extra character development.

And of course if you did the DR and have the OGB kicking around, then thats a consequence the Warden needs to be dealing with unless there is a damn good reason they can't- and mysteriously "vanishing!" doesn't count...

[UberDuber]

CarlSpackler wrote...

jjbens wrote...

still i hope morrigan will play a part in the story

I'd say its almost a certainty that she returns at somepoint, whether that means DA3 or DA7: The quest for more money  remains to be seen. 

For arguments sake though, lets say DA3 does indeed focus on Morrigan, that the DR becomes canon, and DA3 deals with the effects of the child.  I think it could be a stunning story to bring the Warden back.  It might require some other canonization that would likely spark more outrage (I mean I myself prefer the US ending) but if folks could get past that it has spectacular potential I think.  Playing your warden in his aging yrs, nearing the end of his life due to the taint, and the child comming into its power could be great drama.  I say "He" here but I think the drama factor is just as high for the female warden.  Of course all speculation, etc.

Oh I would love to play near the of my warden life in DA3 and say Flemeth takes over the adult god child or something? I think that would be a brill story and you could chuck in some qunari war or something aswell

[Kaiser Shepard]

Assuming BioWare isn't done with the Warden, I hope they are with the Grey Wardens for now. If the journey of the Origins/Awakening character is to continue, it should be a largely unrelated story.

The only thing against it would be the fact that some characters were together with Alistair, Leliana or Zevran in their Epilogue, which makes one wonder if BioWare would implement characters that only a small faction of the players would use...

[Ulicus]

If Morrigan returns in DA2, I imagine it will mainly be in the context of her relationship with Flemeth. As she says, it is her intention to amass power as she can and then "hunt her down in whatever body she inhabits", killing her over and over again.

The god child is peripheral to that. And doesn't even necessarily exist.

Though it would frankly be awesome if Flemeth's later game appearance (assuming she changes body) is tied directly to whether or not you gave Morrigan the true grimoire in the first game. If you didn't... she's in Morrigan. If you did, she's not. Or some variation thereof.

2papercuts wrote...

since they are importing the files from DAO to DA2, could they import what your warden looked like? it would be pretty cool if you saw a statue of your warden or something

Maybe Hawke has the opportunity to visit the "grand tomb, right next to Garahel's" of the Ultimate Sacrifice Warden? That would be... pretty cool. Providing it fit in with the story and wasn't just a "for the hell of it" cameo.

Modifié par Ulicus, 21 juillet 2010 - 12:34 .

[iTomes]

"Maybe Hawke has the opportunity to visit the "grand tomb, right next to Garahel's" of the Ultimate Sacrifice Warden? That would be... pretty cool. Providing it fit in with the story and wasn't just a "for the hell of it" cameo."



that'd be awesome! and we could visit it anyways because (besides of DR) someone lies always in it. and if we did the dark ritual maybe riordans smashed body lies in there, you see because it was hidden that nobody died or something...^^

[RunNeonTiger]

CarlSpackler wrote...

RunNeonTiger wrote...
But aren't Wardens only supposed to last until around thirty years old? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think our Warden would probably already be dead before the god baby even reaches its teens considering what age the warden was at the end of DA:O.

Oh, that could be right I don't know.  I always thought that conversation with Alistair meant that once you received the taint you could live for approx 20 more yrs.  If thats the case then it is enough time, if not, well, c'est la vie.

Any dev like to clarify how long wardens live?

Well, even if that were the case, 20 years old is still too young I think for the god baby to be a major threat. I think either way you slice it, our Warden won't be fighting the god baby unless it ages much faster than a normal human.

[Johnny Shepard]

Around 40 years old if Im not wrong. It depends on when the joining was and how strong the character is.

[CarlSpackler]

RunNeonTiger wrote...

Well, even if that were the case, 20 years old is still too young I think for the god baby to be a major threat. I think either way you slice it, our Warden won't be fighting the god baby unless it ages much faster than a normal human.

Not neccessarily, DA is a medieval fantasy setting.  20 years old during the middle ages was plenty old enough to be at large and influencing the world.  Not to mention many of the dev's stating George RR Martin's ASOFAI books as one of the influences on the DA setting.  In those stories "men" aged 14-17 have major effects on the world at large. 

[RunNeonTiger]

CarlSpackler wrote...

Not neccessarily, DA is a medieval fantasy setting.  20 years old during the middle ages was plenty old enough to be at large and influencing the world.  Not to mention many of the dev's stating George RR Martin's ASOFAI books as one of the influences on the DA setting.  In those stories "men" aged 14-17 have major effects on the world at large. 

That's true, but that is also assuming the god baby turns out to be malevolent. What if the god baby turns out good? What if our Warden is to protect the god baby? Of course, under Morrigan/Flemeth's influence who knows just how good the baby could turn out. I still think it's something to consider. You would also have to consider when the god baby's power will manifest. It could as soon as it's born, or it could be much later.

[In Exile]

I would hope so. It's ironic, but I love the concept of the Grey Wardens. At the same time, I think DA failed completely to make you care about their mission or want to be one. I do not like the Warden as a character, so I would hope this particular protagonist is never revisited.

[thesuperdarkone]

There is already a thread about this:

http://social.biowar...1/index/3057460

[LMNOPMusic]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

There is already a thread about this:
http://social.biowar...1/index/3057460

im tired of you talkingcabout theres already a thread for this

but The hero and the wardens in DAO arnt the only Wardens i have a strong feeling theres going to be wardens in this game i mean i have no doubt at all

[Ulicus]

In Exile wrote...

I would hope so. It's ironic, but I love the concept of the Grey Wardens. At the same time, I think DA failed completely to make you care about their mission or want to be one. I do not like the Warden as a character, so I would hope this particular protagonist is never revisited.

While I don't think DA failed completely, in the sense you're arguing, I find myself of a similar frame of mind. The concept of the Wardens is, thusfar, better than the execution. It didn't help that being a Grey Warden was pretty incidental to the protagonist's badassery, either. I had assumed we'd be manifesting cool taint abilities as the game progressed... alas, no. More "hard choices" relating specifically to stemming the darkspawn tide would have been appreciated, too. (In the vein of Ser Gilroy's comments about Wardens burning down villages to prevent the taint from spreading, that kind of thing) We didn't get to see the Blight and the affect it was having anywhere near enough.

Modifié par Ulicus, 21 juillet 2010 - 03:05 .