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[GreenSoda]

The fact that they made Hawkes sister a mage kind of indicates that Cassandras interest in Hawke is probably not really based on good intentions or mere curiosity.
I guess Flemeths dealing with Hawke might also spark the interest of the Chantry.

But main antagonist ? Too early to tell. We need more information. She could as well just be there to get Hawkes story going. A reason for Varric to tell the tale of the PC.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 19 juillet 2010 - 02:40 .

[Arrtis]

She will be a semi Loghain...after all an inquisitor is no where near as important as a hero.

[Gill Kaiser]

I expect Cassandra will be the supposed antagonist throughout the first two thirds of the game, then a new enemy will emerge and Cassandra will become a possible party member.

[Anarya]

Arrtis wrote...

She will be a semi Loghain...after all an inquisitor is no where near as important as a hero.

I can see her sharing qualities with Loghain. I appreciated how Loghain wasn't one-dimensional and I liked how playing through the Redeemer ending gave me a different perspective on his character. I can see her being obsessed with what she thinks is righteous and just, and damn the consequences or evidence to the contrary (this is where the Javert comparison comes into play for me). I'm reading a lot into the concept art, I know. But it's fun and the art has such a great feeling of mood and characterization it's easy to construct scenarios in your head about what might be going on.

[Anarya]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I expect Cassandra will be the supposed antagonist throughout the first two thirds of the game, then a new enemy will emerge and Cassandra will become a possible party member.

Hm now that's a thought, but is it too similar to DAO?

[Gill Kaiser]

Anarya wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I expect Cassandra will be the supposed antagonist throughout the first two thirds of the game, then a new enemy will emerge and Cassandra will become a possible party member.

Hm now that's a thought, but is it too similar to DAO?

That doesn't bother me. The Heel Face Turn has an ancient and noble history as a storytelling trope.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Arrtis wrote...

I assume Chantry is pursing your sister.
You as Hawke*another possible mage* must fight to protect her and yourself.

Gawd, not another Imoen! <_<

[Anarya]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I expect Cassandra will be the supposed antagonist throughout the first two thirds of the game, then a new enemy will emerge and Cassandra will become a possible party member.

Hm now that's a thought, but is it too similar to DAO?

That doesn't bother me. The Heel Face Turn has an ancient and noble history as a storytelling trope.

True, although doing it in two sequential installments of the same franchise might be too much. I dunno.

[Gill Kaiser]

Anarya wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I expect Cassandra will be the supposed antagonist throughout the first two thirds of the game, then a new enemy will emerge and Cassandra will become a possible party member.

Hm now that's a thought, but is it too similar to DAO?

That doesn't bother me. The Heel Face Turn has an ancient and noble history as a storytelling trope.

True, although doing it in two sequential installments of the same franchise might be too much. I dunno.

They (sort of) did it with Death's Hand and Sarevok, as well.

[SDNcN]

Well we don't exactly know yet when she questions Varric. Her questioning could provide the narration for the whole game, which could mean she never actually meets Hawke in person and just asks others about him/her.

Modifié par SDNcN, 19 juillet 2010 - 03:16 .

[Chairon de Celeste]

companion now, antagonist later would be quite old
but somehow I get the bad feeling something down that line
will happen.

Heck I really hope rpg history doesn't repeat itself

[Anarya]

SirShreK wrote...

I wonder if Cassandra is Morrigan....

In an unrelated note: Cassandra was an oracle in Greek mythology who's prophecies nobody believed in even after being true...

I doubt it, considering Morrigan is an apostate with extreme distaste for the chantry. Interesting tidbit about the name though. I'd completely forgotten that. That seems to possibly support the antagonist in the beginning, companion later on theory, say if she slowly uncovers the truth about Hawke and starts to clash with her superiors over it. Interesting.

[Anarya]

SirShreK wrote...

Anarya wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

I wonder if Cassandra is Morrigan....

In an unrelated note: Cassandra was an oracle in Greek mythology who's prophecies nobody believed in even after being true...

I doubt it, considering Morrigan is an apostate with extreme distaste for the chantry. Interesting tidbit about the name though. I'd completely forgotten that. That seems to possibly support the antagonist in the beginning, companion later on theory, say if she slowly uncovers the truth about Hawke and starts to clash with her superiors over it. Interesting.

But she did dupe everyone in the end.. and she was known to be haeding towards orlais....... There is actually an epilogue entry about a raven haired woman in the court of Empress celene.

AND.

Orlais is the mainstay of the chantry.

Yeah but it'd be like establishing yourself in Rome versus becoming an agent of the Vatican or something.

[Anarya]

SirShreK wrote...

Anarya wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

Anarya wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

I wonder if Cassandra is Morrigan....

In an unrelated note: Cassandra was an oracle in Greek mythology who's prophecies nobody believed in even after being true...

I doubt it, considering Morrigan is an apostate with extreme distaste for the chantry. Interesting tidbit about the name though. I'd completely forgotten that. That seems to possibly support the antagonist in the beginning, companion later on theory, say if she slowly uncovers the truth about Hawke and starts to clash with her superiors over it. Interesting.

But she did dupe everyone in the end.. and she was known to be haeding towards orlais....... There is actually an epilogue entry about a raven haired woman in the court of Empress celene.

AND.

Orlais is the mainstay of the chantry.

Yeah but it'd be like establishing yourself in Rome versus becoming an agent of the Vatican or something.

According to the epilogue she has already done that part... She is an apostate but she is at the Orlais chantry court... Its as outragious as the movie Blue-streak....

I guess I'm thinking of the Imperial Orlesian court as separate from the Chantry itself despite Orlais being the geographical seat of the Chantry's power. Therefore becoming a fixture at court might actually offer her some protection from the Chantry since church and state probably engage in power struggles and do things to spite each other and all that.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

I'd say Cassy is an anti-hero. With a mean streak. As in "I will cut off every finger on your hands until you'll reveal some information". She does what she does because she believes it is for the greater good.

I do have a feeling however, that she'll find out something the Chantry doesn't want her to find out. And that will lead to her either joining Hawke or leading a personal campaign of vengeance against the Chantry.

[errant_knight]

Ulicus wrote...

Quite possibly. Though, on the other hand, I could see Hawke not only being a great enemy of the Chantry but also being a great champion of the Chantry, depending on what choices you make. For all we know, the reason she's interrogating Varric is to decide whether or not he should be named one of the Anointed. (Chantry's version of Saints, it seems)

I doubt they'll force us into an unambiguous choice. That would be too simple. If there's a fight with the Chantry, there will probably be pros and cons. The Chantry does as much 'good' as they do 'bad', and the 'bad' isn't unreasoning. And I suspect they wouldn't force the player to take down an institution that is very reminiscent of the Catholic church. If there is a required battle against the Chantry, I'd guess that this templar will be a rogue element, or the Chantry in the Free Marches will be in schism from Orlais.

[Gill Kaiser]

SirShreK wrote...

Anarya wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

I wonder if Cassandra is Morrigan....

In an unrelated note: Cassandra was an oracle in Greek mythology who's prophecies nobody believed in even after being true...

I doubt it, considering Morrigan is an apostate with extreme distaste for the chantry. Interesting tidbit about the name though. I'd completely forgotten that. That seems to possibly support the antagonist in the beginning, companion later on theory, say if she slowly uncovers the truth about Hawke and starts to clash with her superiors over it. Interesting.

But she did dupe everyone in the end.. and she was known to be haeding towards orlais....... There is actually an epilogue entry about a raven haired woman in the court of Empress celene.

AND.

Orlais is the mainstay of the chantry.

For a scientist, you sure do make great leaps of logic.

[TransientNomad]

Lets not forget Flemmeth is involved. You know, the witch that has murdered dozens (perhaps hundreds) of Templars for fun over the years... And if the God Child is involved somehow, the Chantry would obviously be interest in that little tidbit. And the two closest people to the God Child would be Morrigan and Flemmeth.