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[The Uncanny]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

It's easier!? ... lolwut!?

I've played multiple FemSheps and DudeSheps and neither seemed easier than the other.... imo anyway. That's interesting that you think that though. I wonder if anyone else feels that way?

I find it easier to play the game as FemShep... but that's just because I enjoy playing as FemShep. I'm not aware of it being any easier.

[NICKjnp]

I find it hard to do multiple playthroughs in ME2 as Femshep because of how awful the romances in ME2 are. Anyone else or am I alone on this?

[Giggles_Manically]

They were much shallower than in ME1 for sure.



Three convos, and either a yes or no in the final scene- 2

Five convos, pre, during, and after in the final -1



One did it better.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

NICKjnp wrote...

I find it hard to do multiple playthroughs in ME2 as Femshep because of how awful the romances in ME2 are. Anyone else or am I alone on this?

I want Ash as an LI for FemShep.... oh if only they would have kept her by in ME1 ... *sigh*

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

goodbye for now thread! I look forward to coming back.

[adneate]

NICKjnp wrote...

I find it hard to do multiple playthroughs in ME2 as Femshep because of how awful the romances in ME2 are. Anyone else or am I alone on this?

I did too, I mean Jacob's writing was cringe worthy at best. Sticking with Liara was the easiest decision in the whole game.

[The Uncanny]

NICKjnp wrote...

I find it hard to do multiple playthroughs in ME2 as Femshep because of how awful the romances in ME2 are. Anyone else or am I alone on this?

They do suck... but I've still racked up twelve playthroughs and only one was a Dudeshep. I just ignore the ghastly options I'm presented with and imagine that Jack/Miranda are into me... they'll just tell me about it later!

[muskettman87]

NICKjnp wrote...

I find it hard to do multiple playthroughs in ME2 as Femshep because of how awful the romances in ME2 are. Anyone else or am I alone on this?

I'm with you. I have 3 Shepards. All of them are loyal to Liara.

*Waves at Ryn*

I love your shiny new thread.

[MarshalMeLee]

I have played the game through 7 times, and I, by default, see one of my female Shepards as my "true Shepard". I can also categorically say I enjoyed playing as a female Shepard more. For my videos, I use FemShepards almost exclusively, or at least in a significant majority.

This picture probably sums it up.

AshiraShepard wrote...

In a nutshell, I approve of this thread.

Modifié par MarshalMeLee, 20 juillet 2010 - 02:23 .

[The Uncanny]

rynluna wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...
 I just ignore the ghastly options I'm presented with and imagine that Jack/Miranda are into me... they'll just tell me about it later!

I wish I had your imagination. 

Even if I could mod, it's still not the same because all you can get is the romance scene and not the flirting throughout the game.

Am I a complete and utter overly optimistic fool to still be holding out hope for s/s activation DLC?

[jlb524]

NICKjnp wrote...

I find it hard to do multiple playthroughs in ME2 as Femshep because of how awful the romances in ME2 are. Anyone else or am I alone on this?

It doesn't bother me...I've done tons of playthroughs with my one and only one FemShep, staying loyal to Liara each time...I find the 'troubled second act' to the romance interesting.

I'm sure the ME2 romances are fine, I just never tried them.

[The Uncanny]

rynluna wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...
Am I a complete and utter overly optimistic fool to still be holding out hope for s/s activation DLC?

If you're a fool, then so am I.

That's good to know! At least we can be fools together.

[Mondo47]

The Uncanny wrote...

They do suck... but I've still racked up twelve playthroughs and only one was a Dudeshep. I just ignore the ghastly options I'm presented with and imagine that Jack/Miranda are into me... they'll just tell me about it later!

I've taken the Male-Shep route to experience the Joy of Jack several times (despite the fact almost all of my feelings towards the character are motherly). But deep down inside, I think Adrienne wants to give Tali a very thorough education... rawwrrr

[JamieCOTC]

NICKjnp wrote...

I find it hard to do multiple playthroughs in ME2 as Femshep because of how awful the romances in ME2 are. Anyone else or am I alone on this?

I always romance Liara in ME1 and stay faithful.  Yeah, my poor femShep is a lonely girl at the end, but that may be for the best.   

[adneate]

The Uncanny wrote...
Am I a complete and utter overly optimistic fool to still be holding out hope for s/s activation DLC?

I still have no idea why they'd cut out same sex romance in ME2, Dragon Age had it and it came out around the same time from the same company. Maybe it's just because the Dragon Age team is the good one with David Gaider and company and Mass Effect is handled by Casey "Derp-a-Derp" Hudson.

[jlb524]

rynluna wrote...

I keep meaning to try out the Thane romance though.  His seems interesting and sad. 

Have you seen the vids for it yet?  It is sad.

[Lucky Thirteen]

Just to throw in my two cents, I think exactly the opposite and think a few of the romances in ME2 are better than ME1.



ME1 to me felt like like they were falling head over heels in love with Shepard when Shepard was just trying to get to know them. I got Liara last once to see her behavior when you rescue her. Kaidan falling for Shepard was completely unavoidable unless I just avoided him entirely. Which upset me cause I like his character other then in a romance. When I got Liara finally, went to talk to Kaidan first thing and he was already asking if Liara and Shepard were getting together. Went to Liara for the first time and she was already asking if Shepard had feelings for her.



I like the fact in ME2 you can talk to them, learn their background and become friends with them first. Then Shepard can initiate a relationship and end a relationship.



Although, all of this relies heavily on the players character preferences and individual tastes.





I'm here to support femShep though. Not to start a fight of whether ME1 or ME2 is better. Again, it's all player tastes.



I feel like FemShep is an epic heroine who is just going to remain in the shadows because of her sex. This saddens me greatly. *sob sob*

[Valentyna]

Some of the actual romanceable characters seem well designed. Im a bit of a Thane fangirl, really. Jacob is sort of refreshing, I guess, in the sense that he's a fairly normal guy (unlike 90% of your crew - it seems like to get on board the Normandy you need a terrible, secret past; a severe mental problem; to be created/raised by mad-men; or preferably all of the above).

The actual romances were TERRIBLY written though, even when the characters were compelling.

As above, felt very shallow - the dialog clearly implies that its supposed to be more than just casual sex (usually) but you don't get at ALL the same sense of building intimacy that you did in ME1.

Also, I think its been mentioned before in the thread, but I felt really pervy coming on to jacob - "im interested, and thats enough for the both of us"? Really? Thats OK behavior towards my direct subordinate? Good thing I'm not coming on to him as maleshep - there'd be criminal charges involved, LOL!

The only one I felt really worked was Garus (because you get the feeling that, unlike most LIs, it does seem to be closer to "**** buddies" than "eternal love".   You may really value his friendship, and, coincidentally, have the hots for him (at least enough to "relieve some stress"), but I didn't need to feel as if my shep had fallen deeply in love with him in order for the knockin' of boots to ring true.  Though, of course, even that has its downside, since it feels that much _less_ intimate than even the other short romances if you really do want to totally fall for him ('cause, you know, its not like there's anyone in the community who feels like _that_ at all, *nod, nod*).

I actually felt the /best/ romance sub-plot was the abortive romance attempt with Samara, for a variety of reasons. Morinth trying to seduce you and eat your brain was fun too, although I kinda wish there were some b.tchier, funnier dialog option to tell her off with when you turn her down.  freakin' succubus... try to make my brain assplode... *le grumble*

EDIT:  I do agree that once improvement is the ability to let someone down gently, but clearly, rather than ME1s choices of "profess undying love (after they've mistaken your basic level of not being a total **** for romantic interest)" vs. "tell them to go f.ck themselves."


EDIT 2:  Probably my 'cannon' Shep will stay loyal to Liara for ME3, excitingly scary personality changes and all (tried Kaden out in ME1, of course, but he was just so _boring_, so it was not-technically-lesbianism for me, in the end!).

Modifié par Valentyna, 20 juillet 2010 - 02:54 .

[JamieCOTC]

adneate wrote...

The Uncanny wrote...
Am I a complete and utter overly optimistic fool to still be holding out hope for s/s activation DLC?

I still have no idea why they'd cut out same sex romance in ME2, Dragon Age had it and it came out around the same time from the same company. Maybe it's just because the Dragon Age team is the good one with David Gaider and company and Mass Effect is handled by Casey "Derp-a-Derp" Hudson.

CHUD (as well as others) "explained" that due to the third person narative structure of the story, there could be no s/s.  In other words, Shepard is a (more or less) predifined character and is not gay ... unless he's a she.  Most people speculate this is due to the nature of the demographic ME2 was shooting for and that said demogaphic would not look favorably on a predefined gay hero even if it was the player's choice the option was cut.  I think Kaiden/dudeShep and Ashley/femShep romances were cut from the first game.  The real reason, who knows.  Could have been CHUD's personal choice, office politics, felt it didn't fit the game, who knows.  And this has been debated ad nauseum. 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 20 juillet 2010 - 02:54 .

[adneate]

@Valentyna That's why Dragon Age's romance system was far superior to anything the Mass Effect series has ever done since you have to clearly indicate interest in a character by flirting with them or by giving signals that you like them as well. Then you have to actually develop that relationship by talking to them, giving them personal gifts or doing things that they approve of and the relationship goes through stages as the character first Cares for the player, then they Adore them and lastly they fall in Love over the course of the year that Dragon Age takes place. Mass Effect's romances are very shallow by comparison more so in ME2 due to the total gutting of the dialogue system which now has drastically less content and depth.



@JamieCOTC I heard their explanations as well, they just don't make any sense but I have no intention of pushing the issue here since it's not the place for it.