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[NM7]

I don't have any trouble jumping between my Shepards. As ELE said, if you're only playing one at a time then it's really not that jarring moving between them. Each one is completely different to the others, both in terms of background, allignment and class which helps to further seperate them. I do have a favourite, but I don't think I need to tell you who that is, do I? 

I could never do what AD has done with Kallen though. I could switch class for a character, but I couldn't switch their LI. I've played Hrist as a Vanguard, which was really good fun and the class suits her, but I couldn't romance someone else with her. She just fits with Liara to the point where I can't actually have another Shepard romance her as it doesn't seem right. Weird I know, but that's how it is.

I also want to do another playthrough with my renegon, adept, Lenneth at some point soon as well. She's so different to Hrist and she's great fun to play in her own right. Hearing all those renegade responses help to make her stand out as her own character, and I love the way she looks. She has this 'don't mess with me or you'll regret it' kind of look to her that suits her personality perfectly.



Since it's a ToP post, I think a multiple Shepard's pic is in order, to go with the current topic.

Modifié par Akari Tenshi, 25 juin 2011 - 11:17 .

[AkodoRyu]

I swear that hanar makes the whole pic ridiculous. And that's why I like it.



Also, cut out this from the screen ;p

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 25 juin 2011 - 01:22 .

[nranola]

sagequeen wrote...

heh. i did like sophie shep's look up there. it was just something went wrong in my head when i tried to play as her. i don't know how she kept RPing away from me. she was supposed to be this uber paragon spacer war hero and really nice, but she was just way damaged, dismissive of kaidan, and just...MEAN.[/b] i had no sympathy for her. who knows. maybe someday i'll go back and tweak her until she makes sense as a characer and gets all cool and renegon, but i was rather happy to ditch her for kyrie.

https://lh5.googleus...21-47-55-58.jpg

much better...

I can't wrap my mind around how that could happen, but I imagine it must've been quite an experience, letting a character take a life of its own. Mean characters are fun to play too sometimes. xD I haven't quite readied my stomach for a pure Renegade run though. I'm a weak, weak woman. Or maybe Jennelyn's influence on me was just that strong. Or both.

ADLegend21 wrote...

Or youcould do whta I do and just make multiple versions of your one shepard. I think I ahve a Kallen for every class....no I'm missing an infiltrtor and sentinel Kallen. Solider Kallen is with Ashley/Miranda, Engineer Kallen is with Kaidan, adept Kallen is with Liara/Jacob, and Vanguard Kallen is with Kaidan/Kelly

That doesn't quite work for me. I tend to treat each character as their own separate person. It's the same process with LIs for me; I can't pair up, say, Kaidan with anyone other than Jennelyn. If I were to make a new Shep she'd have to hook up with someone else or not hook up with anyone at all. I dunno, I guess I'm weird like that. xP

I envy you for being able to do it like that though. You get to enjoy everything the game has to offer to its fullest.

AkodoRyu wrote...

I swear that hanar makes the whole pic ridiculous. And that's why I like it.

http://i56.tinypic.com/11udv88.jpg

Somehow I'm reminded of the Hanar Spectre LOL. Loved that bit. xD Wonder if it's true? I'd pay good credits to have him in on the team!

Modifié par nranola, 25 juin 2011 - 01:02 .

[Captain Crash]

AkodoRyu wrote...

I swear that hanar makes the whole pic ridiculous. And that's why I like it.

Also, cut out this from the screen ;p

hehe, yeah, that crazy hanar!  I can just picture him putting a top hat on or something random 


Anyway this cut out screams an awesome maip!!! :happy:  Marge totally looks like she means business 

[nranola]

^

That's a background and a logo away from a ME3 cover. ;D

[ADLegend21]

nranola wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Or youcould do whta I do and just make multiple versions of your one shepard. I think I ahve a Kallen for every class....no I'm missing an infiltrtor and sentinel Kallen. Solider Kallen is with Ashley/Miranda, Engineer Kallen is with Kaidan, adept Kallen is with Liara/Jacob, and Vanguard Kallen is with Kaidan/Kelly

That doesn't quite work for me. I tend to treat each character as their own separate person. It's the same process with LIs for me; I can't pair up, say, Kaidan with anyone other than Jennelyn. If I were to make a new Shep she'd have to hook up with someone else or not hook up with anyone at all. I dunno, I guess I'm weird like that. xP

I envy you for being able to do it like that though. You get to enjoy everything the game has to offer to its fullest.

it's not so much as creating a new shepard, just as taking advantage of using a finished game as the new game and making different choices. Both my canon's have made every decision there is to make (with the exception of leaving David in the Overlord....I just can't....yet) Romanced everyone at least once, plus it's fun have an alternated reality for your Shepards, helps expand on their character....or makes them look like a mulitplpersonality ridden psychopath, your choice

[AtlasMickey]

Oh man, I was seriously just going to post June in that same armor. Well, almost the same. Different pants and couple other small things. That color scheme really does mean business, though, doesn't it? 





I like it. June approves.

Modifié par AtlasMickey, 25 juin 2011 - 02:18 .

[Tup3x]

I have only one femShep (Tiia) and she changes classes (and other things) but when it comes to lis it is either no one or Kaidan. It would be weird to change that. Pretty similar thing with male Shep too (except li may change but does not cheat).

[Cypher0020]

Lets see.... I think...4 or 5 different Sheps... diff parts of my personality I think... o.o does that make m e sound weird?

My newest Siobhan, is earthborn/sole survivor.....and...well...she's the first Shep I may want to make renegon....but I'm not sure....I have "evil mental block issues" in games >.<

[sagefic]

Rheia wrote...

@sagequeen, Kyrie does look more personable . Also has this mischif sparkle to her, while the first face has this 'by the book, no - nonsence'. Or maybe I'm weird .

Aislinn, definately agree with you about Thane Paragon compass feels more natural with him, though I do have a renegon Shepard who had ironically mellowed out a little since meeting him. Garrus... Garrus is Garrus .

thanks! kyrie does have this mischievious sparkle. i think she's slightly unhinged, but in a really endearing way, and that's why. the other one clearly has no sense of humor.

i'm thinkin a good renegon femshep romance would be ashley, but then i'd need to figure out how to mod it in. 

i could not change kyrie's class or alignment at this point. i think part of it, though, is that i went to such lengths to write a coherant fanfiction for her, i couldn't mess with her or i'd undo all the characterization i built in my head.

speaking of which, i need to finish that. ><

[sagefic]

@ cypher - one nice thing about ME and renegon is that i think most renegade decisions aren't "evil" - they're harsh, practical, cold, but rarely out and out evil. i think that makes it my favorite game ever for the roleplay for that reason. you rarely hit those 'oh, come on' moments like you can in other games, where it's just too terrible a decision to ever try. ("let's burn down the puppy orphanage!")

they make sense, at least to some way of thinking. and some i can never fully make up my mind on. i have to go with what i think kyrie's gut feeling would be, which i think is to true to real-life split-second decisions.

and totally randomly, i gotta say, people's ability to overlook the obvious never ceases to amaze me. i feel like i put FAQ answers all over my femshep vid, but every morning i wake up to another "can i have the facecode for..." or "how did you mod in the ..." i put it in the blog, folks! it's in the blog!

[Cypher0020]

@Sage

But how do I go through with it? I loosely created Sio to be the opposite of me...but sadly if I saw the rachni queen...I'd have tolet her go...I saw the option....and killing her seems too true

I can't kill Wrex...can't kill the Council.......

So then what?

[sagefic]

lol, i dunno!

this is my worry is that i could never get past virmire with ashley in tow. i love the girl, i do, but...just...can't...leave...the LT.

i spin a lot of decisions in my head if i think kyrie would make them but i wouldn't. like, bringing down the sky, i felt like she'd let the hostages die and shoot balak, but hold back from killing him. i just sort of 'let' her do that. me as a civilian, i'd probably try and save the hostages (though i think if i was in the service, i'd let them die. sorry, sounds horrible, but that's my take on the morals there).

with elnora, i don't see kyrie as just up and shooting the girl. i see her as trying to take the asari into custody, then having to defend herself. the rachni she saves, but with another shep, i could totally see them thinking 'dangerous bug; probably lying. kill it now before it becomes a problem'

i think that's the answer for a lot of renegade: "kill it now before it becomes a problem" is the mentality. it's almost like "i'll be the big jerk who sacrifices her morals so that other people can sleep safe at night".  <--that's how i'd play renegade if i did. it's how i get kyrie past the hard decisions also, like working with cerberus in the first place.

i think that's why earthborn makes a lot of sense as a background for renegade (but i can't get into earthborn) and perhaps colonist, too. would be interested in knowing how spacer renegades manage to be renegade, since i'd be so worried about disappointing mom.

unless she's a renegade, too.

Modifié par sagequeen, 25 juin 2011 - 05:30 .

[nranola]

Cypher0020 wrote...

But how do I go through with it? I loosely created Sio to be the opposite of me...but sadly if I saw the rachni queen...I'd have tolet her go...I saw the option....and killing her seems too true

I can't kill Wrex...can't kill the Council.......

So then what?

It would help to think that you're not the one playing this time - Sio is. Disassociate yourself from the character and don't let your own morals influence what Sio would do. If she's the type to kill the Rachni queen, let her do it. Just think that it's on her hands and not yours. That's how I go about RPing harsher characters anyhow. xD

And besides, you're playing Renegon, so maybe you can make an few exception for those Paragon choices that you absolutely can't do without? You could Paragon the more weighted choices and Renegade the rest.

[Cyansomnia]

I have no problem switching between my Shepards, as I adore all of them and love the characters they've evolved into. The only confusing part is when I have to switch between alignments or RP mindsets.

As for LIs, some of my characters might be flexible in that aspect, but others... definitely not.

I couldn't imagine Holly being with anyone but Thane (though Garrus was a very close contender). And Moira/Aislinn are such Garrus girls it would be really odd to see them with a different LI. The same goes for Trista, she's entirely and solely a Kaidan gal.

I'm also pretty selfish with Thane and Liara, for some reason. They both have ONE Shep and ONE Shep only. I just can't romance them with other characters. I always look at Thane and think "Yep, that's Holly's man!"

As for Renegons, both Erin and Moira made different decisions in that regard. Moira is more of a wild card while Erin is just efficiently ruthless. I think my proudest moment playing Erin was, after Renegading it up throughout ME1/ME2, she blew up the Collector base. She did it mostly because she hates Cerberus, didn't want them to obtain any more firepower and enjoyed sticking it to TIM. I was grinning the whole time. XD

TIM:  "Shepard!  You're making a habit of costing me more than time and money!"
Erin:  *trollface*   U MAD?

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 25 juin 2011 - 07:28 .

[NM7]

sagequeen wrote...

i think that's why earthborn makes a lot of sense as a background for renegade (but i can't get into earthborn) and perhaps colonist, too. would be interested in knowing how spacer renegades manage to be renegade, since i'd be so worried about disappointing mom.

unless she's a renegade, too.

My renegon Shepard, Lenneth, has the spacer/ruthless background. The way I see she her being renegade comes from the fact she hated her childhood as she was constantly shunted from one place to the other, having to adjust to new schools, people, etc and eventually she started to resent her parents for it. She ended up becoming a bit of a loner and keeping people at arms length. Combined with being a biotic and that just made her feel even more ostracised from those around her. She was a real pain in the arse as a teenager, constantly disobeying her parents and generally being a wild child and getting in to trouble. I can imagine her doing something incredibly stupid at some point in her youth and, with her parents pulling a few strings, it comes down to a choice of joining the alliance, or going to prison.

After that she took things more seriously and was determined to make a name for herself and prove she wasn't a lost cause. Of course she's still not one to let people get close to her and she'll do what's required to get the job done, even if it does mean she has a reputation for being a cold hearted ****.

When it came to major ME1 decisions, she killed the rachni Queen and let the council die, but voiced concerns about Udina's plans to make an all human council. She doesn't hate aliens and doesn't think humans are better than the other races. In fact she's a Garrus girl through and through. In ME2 she took mostly renegade decisions, apart from keeping the genophage cure data and blowing up the collector base. Like Aislinn, I really enjoyed watching her tell TIM to get lost.

I really should write this all down and flesh out her back story some day.

Modifié par Akari Tenshi, 25 juin 2011 - 08:24 .

[sagefic]

I feel like just about every renegade decision in ME and ME2 is potentially rational, if not particularly ethical (if that makes sense. I guess that tosses out a few moral theories, but yeah). my problem is melding them all together into a coherant character whole. Kyrie's my 'lost paladin,' so her decisions are pretty coherant. i just have a hard time playing total wild cards.

though i'm playing da:o and my current dalish elf is turning out to be a bit of a wild card. maybe i'll remake her as a femshep when she's done with zevran.

edit: @ akari - ooh, i like that reasoning

Modifié par sagequeen, 25 juin 2011 - 08:30 .

[Captain Crash]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I have no problem switching between my Shepards, as I adore all of them and love the characters they've evolved into. The only confusing part is when I have to switch between alignments or RP mindsets.

This...

Well except for Laura.

You see I had the bright idea of saving the game before the final scene at the end of ME1.  One play she saved the council, the other she let them die.  

They are the same character but, their paths have diverged so much in ME2 they no longer are.   Its kind of weird, but interesting to see how that decision is changing the same person and character.  

[thompsmt]

Okay, who didn't enjoy telling TIM to stuff it?

For paragons, it's asserting principles, for Renegades, it's sticking it to the (Illusive) Man.

[Gwinoic]

Captain Crash wrote...

AkodoRyu wrote...

I swear that hanar makes the whole pic ridiculous. And that's why I like it.

Also, cut out this from the screen ;p

hehe, yeah, that crazy hanar!  I can just picture him putting a top hat on or something random 


Anyway this cut out screams an awesome maip!!! :happy:  Marge totally looks like she means business 

That just makes me think of the dancing frog with a top hat and cane.

[thompsmt]

Okay, so I picked up the July 2011 the Official Xbox Magazine today, because of the cover story on ME3. To my surprise, there's an article on female protagonists in video games ("Just Like a Woman," Leigh Alexander, p. 45-49.) that includes some talking with Mac Walters off the ME team. Interestingly, the lead writer for Shepard's dialogue is a woman. FemShep specific dialogue is actually vetted by the women on the staff. And FemShep came in their 5 Coolest Video Game Heriones (Chell from Portal, Heather Morris from Silent Hill 3, Alyx Vance, and Jade from Beyond Good and Evil rounded that out). The article does note how there is a double standard for female character design that male characters don't have to go through. And she finishes off with a plea to just write characters well; regardless of gender.

On the ME3 front, it wasn't anything unexpected, other than Alenko concept art with the SPECTRE logo on his arm, plus showing off all the extra detail they can include. Looks like it will be very good. Oh, and it's their number 1 most anticipated game.

[100k]

You know what I hope they fix for ME3? The issue with Shepard's height! I noticed that her height--indeed, her physical size entirely-- fluctuates occasionally because of her copying the male counterpart's actions.

For example--

In Thane's recruitment mission, when Shep shakes hands with the Drell, she is the same size and height that he is. This isn't an armor boost either. It's probably so that Shepard can shake Krios's hand without clipping and shaking his wrist instead, but it's kind of annoying.

The one that really bugs me though is Liara/Shep in LOTSB. After the final fight, when Shepard and Liara kiss, femShep is, quite clearly, a few inches taller than Liara. But when they stand side by side, they are clearly the same height (5'10 I'm guessing).

Male Shep is six foot, I'm fairly sure. But femShep is shorter and smaller. I'm fine with this--hell, I really like that she's just a few inches shy of him. But it still looks extremely odd.

Oh, and I was just playing Arrival...and the moon overhead when you first land on the prison planet is actually Kledagon (only it shouldn't be). It has the great rift on it. I really don't like that DLC.

To be fair though, Kledagon's great rift is actually copied from the valley on Mars, but even so, this is an extremely poor DLC.

[ADLegend21]

sagequeen wrote...

i think that's why earthborn makes a lot of sense as a background for renegade (but i can't get into earthborn) and perhaps colonist, too. would be interested in knowing how spacer renegades manage to be renegade, since i'd be so worried about disappointing mom.

unless she's a renegade, too.

Kallen wasn't always renegade-ish, but due to her travels with her family she had friends all over human space. She lost her most reent friends and was vid chatting with one during the raid so she saw how hte batarians operated. She was estatic when she got assigned to torfan and wasn't leaving unless every Batarian was dead, and of course her bio details how she went completely overboard on the batarians leader when she filled his entire body with bullet holes from the legs up. She realized the galaxy had to have someone who was a finisher so she became one. Torfan (if I remember the canon right) was the most recent Human v Batarian skirmish so in essence she ended it because she showedthe Batarians that theyw ere not going to win. She was a wreck though due to her boyfriend and some friends dying with that 3/4 so Hannah understood what and why she did what she did and she's going to understand Arrival sine Hannah's one of the only people who knows the events of ME1 *spoilers for Guns and Poems* since Kallen takes to time to show her the mission reports and introduce her to Miranda *spoilers end* Hannah gives her opinion but knows Kallen is her own woman. Though it'd be nice to see Hannah in ME3 since Kallens gonna see her and go "MOMMY!" and glomp her.
Kallen: don't judge me!

[sagefic]

Nyoka wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

one nice thing about ME and renegon is that i think most renegade decisions aren't "evil" - they're harsh, practical, cold, but rarely out and out evil. i think that makes it my favorite game ever for the roleplay for that reason. you rarely hit those 'oh, come on' moments like you can in other games, where it's just too terrible a decision to ever try. ("let's burn down the puppy orphanage!")

Very true what you said on renegon not being an evil monster. Could it have something to do with Mass Effect being set in a world that could be real? It's set in the future but it could exist, I mean there's the real earth, and there are political parties and all those things, so pure evil would seem off because that's not how real people work. For contrast, I would compare it to Jade Empire. We all know it's a magical, fictional world, so being the most diabolical mind that ever was doesn't seem out of place. You can chain Dawn Star to your will and then kill her and contaminate the water dragon's fountain with her blood (and then chain the dragon, too!) because you're a spirit monk who visits heavens and can turn into a giant toad and you have a God and a demon-possesed girl as squadmates; but a real military commander doing the analogous to that might not work as well.

Instead, they gave Shepard political inclinations, which is a realistic great way to come off as a total...well you know.

I think a lot of it is that it's set in OUR world - our world in the future, yes, but our world all the same. and secondly, shep has this military mandate to protect peace.

Dragon age is this made-up world. A lot of the 'hard choices' are based on truths about their world that frankly, I don't know the answer to. Is blood magic evil? is andraste real? heck if i know - or care, really. doesn't matter much to me if we desecrate some relic or not. in Kotor, you have this overly black-and-white world from the get go, and being 'evil' really means going to the dark side.

but ME is grounded in our world, our ethics, and our religions and our messy decisions. Add to that that Shep is military and has to make hard decisions about saving people and i think that gave the writers a lot more ground to cover, ethically speaking. is it wrong to neutralize a threat to make things safe? well...depends.

i think the result is that shep always gets to be the hero (saves the day) even while being able to use many different angles to get there. and that's just a lot more interesting than white-kngiht vs. take-over-the-world-evil-crazy.