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Femshep. Or: how to ruin a game's continuity and logic.

[Fiannawolf]

This femshep looks kinda like Elisa Maza of Gargoyles. Dont know if its been posted here before.







Found a good blog entry on ME's screwered Advertising too.



http://throwingcontr...mander-shepard/

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Interesting read, Fianna. Thanks for sharing. The content of that article once again reiterates the fact that people are largely resistent to the prevelance of Sheploo in Mass Effect's marketing, as it seemingly establishes a "standard" Shepard. This is extremely jarring and creates a sense of detachment, considering the fact that almost every single aspect of Shepard's character is customiseable and that players are forced to perceive a character that is not "their" Shepard assuming the role as the series' protagonist.

That is also a substantial reason as to why the movie will be met with a largely negative reception if it features Shepard at all.

Can't be helped. They need a face to show people, because otherwise they can't show anything. 90% of the game has Shepard's face in it. And when it comes to marketing, do you think people are just going to get that Shepard A, B, C, D, E, F, G are the same character, just with a different face? No, they won't. They might think they're different characters, and wonder why they aren't in the game. Dragon Age had a similar problem. See that guy in the Ashes trailer? He isn't even in the game. Not even as a default character.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Interesting read, Fianna. Thanks for sharing. The content of that article once again reiterates the fact that people are largely resistent to the prevelance of Sheploo in Mass Effect's marketing, as it seemingly establishes a "standard" Shepard. This is extremely jarring and creates a sense of detachment, considering the fact that almost every single aspect of Shepard's character is customiseable and that players are forced to perceive a character that is not "their" Shepard assuming the role as the series' protagonist.

That is also a substantial reason as to why the movie will be met with a largely negative reception if it features Shepard at all.

Yeah, there is quite enough material in the Mass Effect universe available for the writers of the ME movie to take from, rehashing Shepard's story would be disappointing, especially because people will point to it as "canon", no matter what the devs say. 

FemShep makes her own canon.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
Can't be helped. They need a face to show people, because otherwise they can't show anything. 90% of the game has Shepard's face in it. And when it comes to marketing, do you think people are just going to get that Shepard A, B, C, D, E, F, G are the same character, just with a different face? No, they won't. They might think they're different characters, and wonder why they aren't in the game. Dragon Age had a similar problem. See that guy in the Ashes trailer? He isn't even in the game. Not even as a default character.

I disagree, and do not believe that a default face, appearance and gender for the character of Commander Shepard is necessary, because I think that it is not a necessity for Commander Shepard to feature in promotional material to any significant degree at all. The Mass Effect series has a wealth of deep, fleshed-out and recogniseable characters. Why noy focus on them for the purposes of marketing and PR? Both Ashley and Garrus were the poster characters for ME1. Why was Sheploo's existence necessary? I believe that they should have focused on the respective characters of Ashley and Garrus in ME1's marketing, whilst also keeping the identity of Commander Shepard vague and ambiguous. That way, there would have been little confusion or frustration with regards to BioWare creating a default Shepard that some see as being a more legitimate version of the character, when this is wrong as almost every aspect and element of Shepard's character is customiseable and player-defined.

However, if they had decided to focus on both Ashley and Garrus with ME1, and Miranda and Thane for ME2, as the marketing characters, then there would have been virtually no issues at all.

But they aren't the story. Shepard is the story. Shepard's the main character. And Ash and Garrus? 2 people you have interviews with in a room. That's not really cinematic. Speaking of which, look at the Interview videos for ME2, and tell me how many times you see Shepard, because said character is talking to him? Hell, you can't even talk about Shepard without saying him or her.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...
But they aren't the story. Shepard is the story. Shepard's the main character. And Ash and Garrus? 2 people you have interviews with in a room. That's not really cinematic. Speaking of which, look at the Interview videos for ME2, and tell me how many times you see Shepard, because said character is talking to him? Hell, you can't even talk about Shepard without saying him or her.

Disagree. The squadmates are interesting and well fleshed-out enough to be the focal point of the game's marketing, in addition to Shepard's identity perhaps remaining vague and ambiguous enough to not establish a default version of the character. A marketing face is not necessary for Shepard, I believe.

Unless, of course, BW wish to establish Sheploo as an iconic video game character, on par with Marcus Fenix or whoever. I don't believe they should try to do this, though.

No they aren't if you're just showing a trailer. Because I didn't buy ME2 for Thane, Miranda, Grunt, Mordin, or Jack. I bought it for Shepard. Again, look at the trailers. Thane's is probably the only one that doesn't show Shepard much. Other then that, there isn't an angle where Shepard isn't in the same frame. Also, tell me a story with visuals, without showing the main character?

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[jlb524]

Yana Montana wrote...

Why people are so against FemShepards with buns? Taking into consideration how many prefer the short haircut, I'd say FemSheppie with long hair put in a professional manner is a rare GEM.

I like the buns.  One of my three Shepards has one. 

I think that hair looks good.




The other that I just made has the shaved hair style....easy maintenance 

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, tell me a story with visuals, without showing the main character?

See, that's the thing...I don't want to be told the story of my main character in a game such as this.  I want to make the story myself.

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jlb524 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, tell me a story with visuals, without showing the main character?

See, that's the thing...I don't want to be told the story of my main character in a game such as this.  I want to make the story myself.

And you do. But Bioware isn't marketing to you. They already have you. Marketing is about getting Pizza Man to play Mass Effect.

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I think the movie will star Shepard but that's not why I'll go and see it. I'm anticipating Liara being played by the actress Liara was modeled after which means a living breathing exact Liara on the screen. That's the main reason I'd go.

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jlb524 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Also, tell me a story with visuals, without showing the main character?

See, that's the thing...I don't want to be told the story of my main character in a game such as this.  I want to make the story myself.

It just boils down to they have to market something, some sort of main character. And the animation for the cinematic trailers can be expensive to whoever the contract it out to. So they go for the cliche male badass marine, ect ect. Do I like it, meh, can I change it, nah. Would I love to see a cinematic with Jennifer Hale as femshep. Yes definatly.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Came across this while navigating YouTube:



Love it. 

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rynluna wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

For Ryn:
http://social.biowar...1031/31#4510770

That made me smile so hard.  Thanks!  <3

Derp Smile!

[Fiannawolf]

Nice interview Fire and a cool find!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Came across this while navigating YouTube:



Love it. 

I love that interview!!!

I remember first seeing it last year at some point. She's incredible, talented, and has a great sense of humour to boot!

I don't usually bother watching interviews of this kind, but that one was THAT good.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

^^ Hmm. Looks very similar to one of mine:

Rani Shepard, Engineer. Earthborn/Sole Survivor

Wow she is lovely!       Engineers dont get any appreciation in ME2

[jlb524]

Captain Crash wrote...
Wow she is lovely!       Engineers dont get any appreciation in ME2

I know...that's one of my favorite ME2 classes too.

I have one Engineer, shown in my above post.

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jlb524 wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...
Wow she is lovely!       Engineers dont get any appreciation in ME2

I know...that's one of my favorite ME2 classes too.

I have one Engineer, shown in my above post.

Yeah they are fun, but only with Geth and mechs about.  If not... sniper time!  Although I think the Geth Plasma shotgun will probably work better for them now.

Anyway did you give your combat drone a nickname? 

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Captain Crash wrote...

Anyway did you give your combat drone a nickname? 

'Liara'...this was for a Liara romancing Shep.

Actually, all of my Shepards are Liara romancing.  I have a problem.