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Aislinn Trista wrote...

I just wanted a FemShep trailer. I could care less what she looks like. I was expecting them to just give default Jane a slight makeover and use her. Anyway, I don't want to be dragged into this and it sucks. So I'm going to go over into the corner, plug my ears and wait for it to be over.

Once again, you're turning out to be one of the smartest people around here.

Offical FemShep trailer= Cool.

Useless debate over what she should look like=Not cool.

[Ashwraith]

Footfalls thudded along the corridors of the Bioware Social Network, rattling the subforums in their frames and shaking portraits of David Gaider from the walls.

Around the corner there thundered a mechanical monstrosity, a nightmare of brass and tubing, a… clockwork velociraptor, steam belching from its shoulders and fire from its arse.

“Hurry up! At the rate we’re going, we’ll be lucky to get there before the trailer comes out! I can hear the debates already!” the rider, better known as The Illusive Ashwraith (or “oh dear god, it’s got my arm, get it off”) snapped, with an emphatic adjust of her monocle. She had been long absent from the boards of late, having been waylaid en route to her secret moon base on the moon, and forced into a life of endless drudgery within the Butter Mines of Mars.

Having MacGuyvered her way out of the dread imprisonment of Real Life™, armed with only a toothpick, a lemon, and some dry-cleaning, she fought her way through the rabid hordes of forum naysayers, somehow managing to set her head alight -for the third time in a week- in the process.

But sanctuary was in sight. There, just ahead, loomed the warm and estrogen-flavored glow of the FemShep thread. Huzzah!


...oh sweet angry bajeezus, I don't know what I was thinking with this. >.>
Note to self: No more black tea after 8 p.m..
HENYWAY. Hai gaiz, I'm back. :3
(And for those of you whom I haven't met, name's Ash. Pleasedtameetcha.)

Modifié par Ashwraith, 13 août 2011 - 05:53 .

[100k]

I know how you feel. I haven't slept in two or three days because I stupidly downed Dr Pepper before bed.

And I am REALLY craving some Dr right now.

[Hyper_gateway]

Three top posts and none femshep pic? Unacceptable!


Colly enjoys every fight she's in, and even smile while fighting

I believe most of us don't really care about how does the new default femshep looks like. The only way to define how awesome femshep is from her character, that is all I'm going to say.

*joins Aislinn at the corner waiting for femshep trailer*

Modifié par Hyper_gateway, 13 août 2011 - 06:45 .

[nranola]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

  I got a little carried away with an image of some neat looking angel wings so in tribute to all the paragon players out there:

 

 Pardon my silliness.

Forgot to comment. Again. xD

This looks REALLY good! It wings give it an angelic feel, but the sheer amount of it makes it appear very intimidating. Like a holy knight of some sort. Nice work!

Ashwraith wrote...

*snip for length*


...oh sweet angry bajeezus, I don't know what I was thinking with this. >.>
Note to self: No more black tea after 8 p.m..
HENYWAY. Hai gaiz, I'm back. :3
(And for those of you whom I haven't met, name's Ash. Pleasedtameetcha.)

That's one helluva introduction. xD Nice to meet you!

Modifié par nranola, 13 août 2011 - 06:55 .

[Jadedry]

Ashwraith wrote...

Footfalls thudded along the corridors of the Bioware Social Network, rattling the subforums in their frames and shaking portraits of David Gaider from the walls.

Around the corner there thundered a mechanical monstrosity, a nightmare of brass and tubing, a… clockwork velociraptor, steam belching from its shoulders and fire from its arse.

“Hurry up! At the rate we’re going, we’ll be lucky to get there before the trailer comes out! I can hear the debates already!” the rider, better known as The Illusive Ashwraith (or “oh dear god, it’s got my arm, get it off”) snapped, with an emphatic adjust of her monocle. She had been long absent from the boards of late, having been waylaid en route to her secret moon base on the moon, and forced into a life of endless drudgery within the Butter Mines of Mars.

Having MacGuyvered her way out of the dread imprisonment of Real Life™, armed with only a toothpick, a lemon, and some dry-cleaning, she fought her way through the rabid hordes of forum naysayers, somehow managing to set her head alight -for the third time in a week- in the process.

But sanctuary was in sight. There, just ahead, loomed the warm and estrogen-flavored glow of the FemShep thread. Huzzah!


...oh sweet angry bajeezus, I don't know what I was thinking with this. >.>
Note to self: No more black tea after 8 p.m..
HENYWAY. Hai gaiz, I'm back. :3
(And for those of you whom I haven't met, name's Ash. Pleasedtameetcha.)

I approve. 8D

But yeah, I don't know why people are fussing so much over the blonde Fem-shep. Most of us put hours into creating an original custom Fem-shep, and probably would not sacrfice all that hard work.

I am just happy that Bioware is taking the time to create and put Fem-shep in the spotlight., and besides, A lot of people seem to be unhappy that Fem-shep is BLOND. Dudettes, it is just a hair color, and it is a normal hair color too. I have seen (anime) characters with green and blue hair not receive flak for their hair colors. So why Blond? Just because Blonde's are seen as dumb?  

Have a cute Fem-shep with that.

[nranola]

To me it's not so much an issue with the hair color. I'm all up for the extended vote because I want to see what the majority wants, feature by feature, embodied into the awesomeness that is FemShep. Much like what Silverman stated in the interview a lot of people are divided between the six femSheps. Proof of this are the edits that various fans have made, switching features and colors between the six.

It would be wrong to say that this method will eliminate all complaints from the fanbase, because someone's bound to complain no matter what the situation, but I think it would serve to lessen them to some degree. This way if, just to illustrate an example, blondeShep still prevails after the extended vote is over, more people wouldn't be able to say "oh, she won because she has great hair, not because she's blonde god blondes are so overrated" - because the fans chose that color specifically and collectively.

And honestly, do we really need to see the trailer right now? Can't we wait a little longer if it makes for a possibly happier less-complainy fanbase?

Those are my two cents. xP No offense meant to those who think different, as always.

Modifié par nranola, 13 août 2011 - 08:29 .

[Hyper_gateway]

nranola wrote...

To me it's not so much an issue with the hair color. I'm all up for the extended vote because I want to see what the majority wants, feature by feature, embodied into the awesomeness that is FemShep. Much like what Silverman stated in the interview a lot of people are divided between the six femSheps. Proof of this are the edits that various fans have made, switching features and colors between the six.

It would be wrong to say that this method will eliminate all complaints from the fanbase, because someone's bound to complain no matter what the situation, but I think it would serve to lessen them to some degree. This way if, just to illustrate an example, blondeShep still prevails after the extended vote is over, more people wouldn't be able to say "oh, she won because she has great hair, not because she's blonde god blondes are so overrated" - because the fans chose that color specifically and collectively.

And honestly, do we really need to see the trailer right now? Can't we wait a little longer if it makes for a possibly happier less-complainy fanbase?

Those are my two cents. xP No offense meant to those who think different, as always.

What I am seeing in the voting is that there are rougly two main group of people who voted. First will be people like you and me who have played ME and KNOW about ME, the second group is those who have never play ME at all or only know very few of it.

As David mentioned in the interview, it seems the teams know and predict how does the voting ended up. And I am sooooooo glad and grateful he said one of the reason for 'upgrading' femshep is for the fans of her! A true femshep fan know what matter is her character but not on how she looks like. Having a choose to pick your favorite femshep then stomp on her because how she doesn't fit into your preference is double standard as one of my dearest friend said so.

The only thing that is equal, is the soul we have, nor the gender, nor the sex, nor the skin, nor where you born in. So let drop all the bulls and focus on how awesome she is.

[Tup3x]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I just wanted a FemShep trailer. I could care less what she looks like. I was expecting them to just give default Jane a slight makeover and use her. Anyway, I don't want to be dragged into this and it sucks. So I'm going to go over into the corner, plug my ears and wait for it to be over.

Amen for that. I never thought that they would do something like this. It most likely was huge marketing win but still, I didn't like it how they handled this.

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I have to get rid of those scars, apparently they are only getting more apparent. Never had as much scarring before.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 13 août 2011 - 09:08 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Tup3xi wrote...

Whoa! 1500 pages!

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Sinapus wrote...

100k wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

100k wrote...

Cheekbone depth isn't anyone's fault though. BW should have given us a proper CC that allowed us to see the PC's head from all angles. Instead, they decided they would just have Shepard turn his/her head to a slight angle, from which it is utterly impossible to get a good cheek depth perception.

I find getting the cheeks to look right on femshep is one of the hardest parts of building a good one. it's like the CC doesn't WANT you to flesh her face out properly once you've got the underlying features in place.

course, DA2 was the same way. i spent ages trying to give my chars rounded cheeks

I'd say you're right. to this day, I still don't know the cheek depths at all. I really hope they change this in ME3, but my hopes aren't high. 

Yes, it would be nice to setup the face so the character you created doesn't look like one of the aliens from the old Star Trek episode The Cage when viewed from a certain angle. Some of the hairstyles mitigate that, I think.

I hope they change it... and let you tweak your import instead of having to start from scratch.

(When I created Kylie based off of Kyrie, I spent a long time adjusting sliders in ME2, then switching between the import and the new face I was creating to see if I was anywhere near what the import's settings were. Then eventually got something close enough to Kyrie's face and adjusted it to make Kylie's look. Then when I created Kelly's face I simply used Kylie's facecode and adjusted from there. Anyone confused or should I create another Femshep with a two-syllable name starting with the letter K?)

I'm having the same problems with the cheeks too. Has anyone noticed extras to the sides if Shep is wearing helmet? I thought they looked terrible, like ...overflows of paste to fill out the interior. What I'm saying is I want my sample Shep to have say, a narrower face but in the helmet, it's like there're leftovers at the sides.

So either I'm making the face wrong (filling it out properly) or it's the devs' fault.

I actually think that helmet looks pretty cool on my femShep. Dunno what others think, though.

edited

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 27 août 2011 - 01:44 .

[floccinaucinihilipilification]

I was bored and assembled a Heather themed manip. It might be considered slightly unsuitable for viewing by some standards.



Flies_by_Handles, those angel wing compositions are lovely!

[Tup3x]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...
/Massive_snippage

Yeah, in ME1, the helmet can be toggled on/off easily but not so in ME2. I chose to have Shep have the helmet on for the missions. Here's what I meant by "extras" to the side of the helmet, see the right side?



She looks fine from the sides.

/snip

I've never noticed that and as far as I can tell, my Shep doesn't have that issue.





What I've noticed that I could never get cheeks and cheek bones to look the way I want with any other face structure than 9.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 13 août 2011 - 12:30 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Tup3xi wrote...

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...
/Massive_snippage

Yeah, in ME1, the helmet can be toggled on/off easily but not so in ME2. I chose to have Shep have the helmet on for the missions. Here's what I meant by "extras" to the side of the helmet, see the right side?



She looks fine from the sides.

/snip

I've never noticed that and as far as I can tell, my Shep doesn't have that issue.


What I've noticed that I could never get cheeks and cheek bones to look the way I want with any other face structure than 9.

The thing is, it doesn't really appear all the time. I can only suppose that it's a blanket fill for some front face helmet views so that the head does not appear too small for the helmet. That or I made the face too narrow for the face "patty".

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 27 août 2011 - 01:44 .

[Tup3x]

^^Yep, my Shep definitely does not have that issue.

Watch out the cheek gaunt slider, too much and nasty edges start to happen. Helmet might just highlight the problem.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 13 août 2011 - 12:50 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Tup3xi wrote...

Watch out the cheek gaunt slider, too much and nasty edges start to happen. Helmet might just highlight the problem.

True. But it's not just the helmet, sometimes it will appear too, out of hardsuit & helmet. Thing is, I wanna make Shep look gaunt around the face, as a reflection of what she had gone through. Perhaps I made it too gaunt.

[Tup3x]

I know. With some face structures the issue is more sever with certain settings.

[NM7]

And the debate rumbles on.

I think this whole vote for the default FemShep idea has back fired somewhat. On the one hand it's been a great marketing ploy and has people talking about Mass Effect and the Female version of Commander Shepard, but on the other a lot of the talk has been negative and pretty nasty with regards to BlondeShep and the process of choosing her.

In hindsight it was probably a bad idea to put the look of Jane to a public vote and one that shouldn't have gone further than a suggestion in a marketing meeting. Bioware should have just designed their own Jane Shepard and presented her to the world and said; "Here she is". After all the uproar that the first vote has caused, having another to decide things such as hair and eye colour is just asking for trouble. I mean what were people choosing for in the first place if the designs weren't final?

However hindsight is a wonderful thing and in my opinion the best thing for Bioware to do now would be to just stick with the one that won and leave it at that. FemShep deserved more than to be reduced to a popularity contest where every man and his dog could decide what she looked like, especailly when most people according to the stats don't even play the game using her. But what's done is done.

I'm with Aislinn. I just wanted to see a trailer. We all have our own opinion on what FemShep looks like. For some of us she's blonde, for others she's a redhead, brunette, etc. At the end of the day what she looks like isn't important, it's what she stands for. Unfortunately that seems to have been buried in all of this, which is a shame.

*Dsiclaimer: I'm not bashing anyone's opinion or FemShep No. 5. As I've stated on numerous occasions, I don't care what Bioware's Jane Shepard looks like. I have my own FemShep regardless of what they do and she is and will always be Commander Shepard to me. With that said, I too am going to sit in the corner and plug my ears until this is all over.

[Ottemis]

It doesn't matter what they did or didn't do, the people instigating the question for more femshep coverage are not the ones spewing the mayority of the sh-t towards the whole voting thing and femshep as a whole.
What this has become is just another excuse to spew negative sh-te at something a lot of people didn't support from the get-go.
How much blatant hate has the femshep fanbase recieved from other players; them saying that she has no place being marketted and that Sheploo is and should stay the only "poster-anything"?

We, the people that actually fought to get this kind of coverage are not the only ones being involved in this process and as such, I don't see this ever turning into something globally considered to have been a 'good move' by marketting, whichever way they swing it now.

Should have stuck by their initial decission to have the one vote and screw the negativity, because tbh I don't think that can be fixed in any way or form.

Basicly, this was a trainwreck waiting to happen.
People will find fault with it simply because they WANT to.

Modifié par Ottemis, 13 août 2011 - 01:34 .

[Shenzi]

Akari Tenshi wrote...

And the debate rumbles on.

I think this whole vote for the default FemShep idea has back fired somewhat. On the one hand it's been a great marketing ploy and has people talking about Mass Effect and the Female version of Commander Shepard, but on the other a lot of the talk has been negative and pretty nasty with regards to BlondeShep and the process of choosing her.

In hindsight it was probably a bad idea to put the look of Jane to a public vote and one that shouldn't have gone further than a suggestion in a marketing meeting. Bioware should have just designed their own Jane Shepard and presented her to the world and said; "Here she is". After all the uproar that the first vote has caused, having another to decide things such as hair and eye colour is just asking for trouble. I mean what were people choosing for in the first place if the designs weren't final?

However hindsight is a wonderful thing and in my opinion the best thing for Bioware to do now would be to just stick with the one that won and leave it at that. FemShep deserved more than to be reduced to a popularity contest where every man and his dog could decide what she looked like, especailly when most people according to the stats don't even play the game using her. But what's done is done.

I'm with Aislinn. I just wanted to see a trailer. We all have our own opinion on what FemShep looks like. For some of us she's blonde, for others she's a redhead, brunette, etc. At the end of the day what she looks like isn't important, it's what she stands for. Unfortunately that seems to have been buried in all of this, which is a shame.

*Dsiclaimer: I'm not bashing anyone's opinion or FemShep No. 5. As I've stated on numerous occasions, I don't care what Bioware's Jane Shepard looks like. I have my own FemShep regardless of what they do and she is and will always be Commander Shepard to me. With that said, I too am going to sit in the corner and plug my ears until this is all over.

Really well stated and I completely agree with you.

[CrazyRah]

Ottemis wrote...
It doesn't matter what they did or didn't do, the people instigating the
question for more femshep coverage are not the ones spewing the mayority
of the sh-t towards the whole voting thing and femshep as a whole.
What
this has become is just another excuse to spew negative sh-te at
something a lot of people didn't support from the get-go.
How much
blatant hate has the femshep fanbase recieved from other players; them
saying that she has no place being marketted and that Sheploo is and
should stay the only "poster-anything"?

We, the people that
actually fought to get this kind of coverage are not the only ones being
involved in this process and as such, I don't see this ever turning
into something globally considered to have been a 'good move' by
marketting, whichever way they swing it now.

Should have stuck by
their initial decission to have the one vote and screw the negativity,
because tbh I don't think that can be fixed in any way or form.

Basicly,
this was a trainwreck waiting to happen.
People will find fault with
it simply because they WANT to.

I second this. I'm growing tired of all the hate and negativity

Modifié par CommanderSarah, 13 août 2011 - 01:37 .

[Wulfram]

It might be annoying for people in the community, but it's generating discussion and coverage so I guess the marketing people are pretty happy.

[The Tookah]

Interesting shot, Wulfram.

I was tired of the hate and negativity when it started. That kind of "discussion" drives away people who want game discussion.

[Interactive Civilian]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I just wanted a FemShep trailer. I could care less what she looks like. I was expecting them to just give default Jane a slight makeover and use her. Anyway, I don't want to be dragged into this and it sucks. So I'm going to go over into the corner, plug my ears and wait for it to be over.

Just out of curiosity, did they ask for permission to post your pictures of your femShep? Or do you have them posted somewhere with a Creative Commons non-Attribution license or similar so that people don't have to ask permission or credit you? I mean, if they are using your femShep, and you don't like it, you could probably do something about it.

Of course, probably even a very polite "Would you mind not using my images without my permission" message would cause an over-reaction and flame war with the way many people online feel entitled to content these days.


But... I digress. I don't have any new femShep, though I should be getting back to ME2 soon (want to finish FO:NV a bit good bit more, first), so here's Artemis's sister in spirit (with the same name):

http://cloud.steampo...84EF1E653C897C/

And here's an old shot of Artemis with very similar content.

http://cloud.steampo...F458BB40217290/