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[Interactive Civilian]

[edit]doh! new page... my post is referring to this:

Jade Elf wrote...

Regarding face/head mods and savegame imports, the following is also
worth mentioning, since lots of peeps here including myself modify their
FemSheps to varying degrees:

Brenon Holmes wrote...

I
believe the asset names have changed, and iirc if the player appearance
system can't find the asset it simply fails to load... so no hair or
hat or fish, or whatever you've modded in and put on your head.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]

In
terms of the morph heads, those are a little more complicated, but
theoretically it should work the same... the only thing is that some of
the code systems may freak out a little in conversations or when you go
to do some VO and you have no lips... or face... or head...

So... It should be as simple as reinstating the original haircodes into the savefile before importing, right? Hair is the only thing I've modded in the savefile.



[edit] AHHH!! Top, and I still have nothing new... Here, have a thresher maw hunt:

http://cloud.steampo...E82131BBF0D994/
And stay down!



(yes, that's right... on Artemis's crew, we hunt Thresher Maws with pistols)

Modifié par Interactive Civilian, 22 août 2011 - 05:34 .

[Sable Phoenix]

Once ME3 actually comes out, we'll get the FemShep thread transplanted onto that forum through sheer bloody-mindedness, mods notwithstanding.

Also, that thresher pic reminds me of something.  At first everyone was making a big deal about killing the thresher maw on Tuchanka, and I was like, "Big deal, I've taken out at least a dozen thresher maws on foot."  Then I realized, in Mass Effect 1, you never actually kill them.  You just sort of hurt them long enough so they pull back into the ground and leave you alone.  Anyway... random thought of the day.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 22 août 2011 - 05:41 .

[nranola]

Did someone say thresher maw?


by Akari Tenshi

I don't feel like I should post this here yet since I haven't sent in my end of the trade, but I just love it so much aaaa! :wub:

[100k]

NIIIIIIIICE!

[Interactive Civilian]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Then I realized, in Mass Effect 1, you never actually kill them.  You just sort of hurt them long enough so they pull back into the ground and leave you alone.  Anyway... random thought of the day.

I have a hard time buying that explanation, because if it were the case, then it would make sense for them to respawn if you revisit their locations at another time, and they never do.

So, yeah, Artemis poked a bit of fun at Grunt for that, due to this situation in which Liara had her Initiation Hunt with the rule of using only Pistols. Yeah, this series is pretty much a repost of many pages ago, but here it is again for the amusment.


http://cloud.steampo...6D4759D1A21AB9/
Liara, Garrus, and Artemis - Pistols Only

And so, to Grunt's Rite of Passage:

http://cloud.steampo...1C609A597C6A76/
Artemis: Just like old times, eh, Garrus?
Garrus: I don't know Commander. I don't remember you ever making it this easy?
Grunt: What?!

http://cloud.steampo...F65FF6A5132145/
Garrus: Yeah. Shepard used to make Thresher Maw hunts a condition of joining the Normandy crew. Don't join in a hunt, and you are off the ship. Always had crazy conditions, too. I remember Liara's --
Grunt: Even that soft Asari had to do one?
Artemis: Ahahaha! I remember that: pistol's only. Good times!
Grunt: WHAT??!! You mean to tell me you and an Asari brought down a thresher maw with only pistols???

http://cloud.steampo...3F4362D79FBF42/
Garrus: I don't know commander. This time hardly seems fair.
Grunt: Gettin' too tough for you, Garrus?

http://cloud.steampo...08EFCA46EF159C/
Garrus: To the Thresher Maw, I mean. I mean, really, sniper rifles? Shotguns? Poor thing never really stood a chance...
Grunt: STOP BELITTLING MY RITE!!!
Garrus: I mean, with Shepard here, it really is a bit of a joke, isn't it?
Grunt: AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! DAMMIT!
Artemis:

Hehehehehehe... And of course, later, when all of the Krogan are going on about it, Artemis can only keep thinking to herself, "Just smile and nod. Must not say anything. Must let Grunt have some dignity here. Must not say anything. Must let Grunt..." until they go away. And then nothing but side-splitting laughing at Grunt.

Ah, poor Grunt. He is the butt of many jokes on Artemis's ship. But it's all good-natured ribbing and fun.

Modifié par Interactive Civilian, 22 août 2011 - 07:20 .

[KyreneZA]

(Edited for formatting)

TheMarshal wrote...

So here's your question: What background/war record is your Shep, and how do you feel it affects the way she approaches the world?

I might be a little (two days or so) late to this party, but...

For Jane, as opposed to Jack’s John, I chose Spacer/Ruthless.

Spacer: Being a navy brat, joining up herself was natural for her. It also means that she’s more tolerant and knowledgeable of aliens in general (prime example of this is where John–who’s Earthborn–had to ask what a Collector was, Jane knew already). This also helps her judge the motives of aliens, so she can cut through the human and alien BS much better. She could probably have been a hero, but this ability saw her chosen for the Torfan mission. If she has an alien blind spot it is batarians. She’ll always rather kill them than listen to them.

Ruthless: Being labeled ‘the Butcher of Torfan’ is always at the back of her mind. She was in a bad situation and had to send good marines and good friends to their deaths to get the job done. Given the chance, she’d do it again though. The needs of the many always outweigh the needs of the few. She sacrificed Kate Bowman and the two other engineers for the same reason. She sacrificed Kaidan and a few salarian STGs to protect the bomb and make sure it went off. She sacrificed the council to make sure Sovereign was eliminated. She is mostly kind to civilians, and nowadays tries to keep her crew out of harm’s way, but if any ‘needs of the many’ situation arises, she will sacrifice the few. This included the needs of a veteran mercenary compared to the needs of a lot of innocent refinery workers. In the end he saw it her way, and she might be falling for this older ‘bad boy’.

Modifié par Kyrene, 22 août 2011 - 08:42 .

[KyreneZA]

JamieCOTC wrote...

I suppose we could take that thread over, but we would have to step a little more lightly and ignore any insults, personal or otherwise.

Well I suppose you'd have to if you had that in mind. Why do you feel you'd have to "take that thread over"?

I've been reading the combined ME3 Shepard thread from the start and the only nastyness I saw was when some overactive Sheploo fangirls (edit: one two of them being brand new to the forums) had a disagreement with Sialater on page 3-4. They apologised, but I'm not sure Sia had the good grace to ever accept the apologies and actually post her femSheps afterwards (the original on page 3 was edited). It's been quiter than this thread for sure, but rather civil too. Much like this thread.

This thread is the de facto femShep thread. It's the busiest, busier even than a lot of 'Official team/crew member X' threads in the ME3 forum. I wouldn't worry about femShep visibility so much that I'd consider femShep bombing the combined thread. Like you can tell the guard in Purgatory, "This is beneath you."

And to end on a lighter (if still topical) note. Here's Jane having empathy for a fellow female team member:

Modifié par Kyrene, 22 août 2011 - 09:00 .

[KyreneZA]

Interactive Civilian wrote...

http://cloud.steampo...6D4759D1A21AB9/
Liara, Garrus, and Artemis - Pistols Only

I have to ask, how did you avoid the acid? Or if you did get hit by it, how dangerous was it? I was always too chicken (and I play on lowly "Normal" difficulty) and only took on the maws from within the Mako.

[Interactive Civilian]

Kyrene wrote...

Interactive Civilian wrote...

http://cloud.steampo...D1A21AB9/[/img]
Liara, Garrus, and Artemis - Pistols Only

I have to ask, how did you avoid the acid? Or if you did get hit by it, how dangerous was it? I was always too chicken (and I play on lowly "Normal" difficulty) and only took on the maws from within the Mako.

Never stop strafing. You'll probably get some acid splash once or twice, especially if your teammates are close, but rarely enough to kill you unless you stop moving. The biggest danger is getting too close and having it spike you with it's fangs/claws/legs/jaws/whatever those things are.

Basically, you need to drive in and be driving around enough to get the maw to come up. Stop driving immediately, or maybe even turn towards it a little (if you get too far away, it'll just go back underground... you do NOT want this to happen while you are on foot). Jump out of the Mako and immediately start strafing around it, riddling it with bullets. Don't get too close or instant death. Don't get too far or it goes underground, only to come up right beneath you, and instant death.

This has been another episode of Thresher Maw Hunting with Artemis Shepard. Remember folks: Krogan are, in this respect, easy to imprURRK!

http://cloud.steampo...CCFD67C1DC5D0/
Grunt: Go ahead, Shepard. Keep making fun of my Rite.
Artemis: Your cunning plan. Don't think you've thought it all the way through, have you?
Grunt: *looks down* goddammitsomuch!
Artemis:

[Ottemis]

Kyrene wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

I suppose we could take that thread over, but we would have to step a little more lightly and ignore any insults, personal or otherwise.

Well I suppose you'd have to if you had that in mind. Why do you feel you'd have to "take that thread over"?

I've been reading the combined ME3 Shepard thread from the start and the only nastyness I saw was when some overactive Sheploo fangirls (edit: one two of them being brand new to the forums) had a disagreement with Sialater on page 3-4. They apologised, but I'm not sure Sia had the good grace to ever accept the apologies and actually post her femSheps afterwards (the original on page 3 was edited). It's been quiter than this thread for sure, but rather civil too. Much like this thread.

This thread is the de facto femShep thread. It's the busiest, busier even than a lot of 'Official team/crew member X' threads in the ME3 forum. I wouldn't worry about femShep visibility so much that I'd consider femShep bombing the combined thread. Like you can tell the guard in Purgatory, "This is beneath you."

*snip*

Aside from the Sialater argument we've seen aproductive negative remarks there towards other femshep players (and/or their characters) too. It leaves a bitter taste in one's mouth knowing that the people there that donot frequent this thread will just spew their unconstructive negative opinion of one's creation at you with 0 consideration of one's feelings. ( Or dig up character shots and insult their creators while they're not even IN that thread)
Also yes, as you already mentioned the overactive fanboy/girling of sheploo in responce to femshep postings kinda leaves a bitter taste aswell.
All in all, if you consider this is a thread people choose to be active in just because it's friendly and the people in it care about eachother's feelings, switching to a thread where the status quo is disturbed is something we're not keen on doing unless our mentality manages to overshadow that of the negative one of some others.

I know i'm not keen on visiting that other thread because I know I'll want to step in as soon as I see any femshep player/fan known to me from here either directly or indirectly insulted, and having to consider that possibility just makes me not want to altogether.

Modifié par Ottemis, 22 août 2011 - 12:34 .

[sagefic]

khevan wrote...

@sagequeen - Thanks for the link earlier to your modding blog.

*snip*

np!

New look as a Vanguard

*snip*

sooo cute!  love the blonde pixie

[Sialater]

Kyrene wrote...
I've been reading the combined ME3 Shepard thread from the start and the only nastyness I saw was when some overactive Sheploo fangirls (edit: one two of them being brand new to the forums) had a disagreement with Sialater on page 3-4. They apologised, but I'm not sure Sia had the good grace to ever accept the apologies and actually post her femSheps afterwards (the original on page 3 was edited). It's been quiter than this thread for sure, but rather civil too. Much like this thread.

Just to set the record straight, I accepted the fangirl's apology via PM and have since posted all my Shepards in that thread multiple times.  I've sorta shoved Rachel down their throats, considering she was the one that got the "ewww." response.

And for the same record, it wasn't the "iinsult" to my Shepards that I had an issue with.  It was that she said femsheps aren't welcome, all she wanted to see was Sheploo.  THAT's what I had an issue with. 

However, her strongest reaction was to Rachel and I so totally could have opened yet another can of worms of and called her racist.


Rachel Shepard:  Haters are gonna hate.

[Chignon]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

meonlyred made this art for me.  Inspired by my FemShep Noir video. 

<3<3<3

I saw this on dA. It's beautiful.

[leggywillow]

sagequeen wrote...

khevan wrote...

New look as a Vanguard

sooo cute!  love the blonde pixie

Blonde pixies FTW!

[KyreneZA]

tl;dr Sorry, you're gonna have to take time on this one, there ain't no short version.

Ottemis wrote...

Aside from the Sialater argument we've seen aproductive (sic) negative remarks there towards other femshep players (and/or their characters) too. It leaves a bitter taste in one's mouth knowing that the people there that donot (sic) frequent this thread will just spew their unconstructive negative opinion of one's creation at you with 0 consideration of one's feelings. ( Or dig up character shots and insult their creators while they're not even IN that thread)

Well there we disagree. If one puts one's femShep/s 'out there' so to speak, one better have a thick enough skin to handle any comments. Any comments. That goes for any thread where one wishes to post one's creations. Sure, if the comments are just blatant baiting or unconstructive criticism it does sting, but one should be able to take it in stride or not put one's creations out in the public domain in the first place.

Also yes, as you already mentioned the overactive fanboy/girling of sheploo in responce to femshep postings kinda leaves a bitter taste aswell.

Again, why? Surely you would agree that there as many rabidly militant femShep supporters as there are any others. If you allow how others enjoy the game to sour how you enjoy it, the fault lies with you (I'm not referring to you, Ottemis personally here, mind you, but the general 'you').

I know i'm not keen on visiting that other thread because I know I'll want to step in as soon as I see any femshep player/fan known to me from here either directly or indirectly insulted, and having to consider that possibility just makes me not want to altogether.

Yet again, why? I get that this thread has been going for more than a year now, and that a lot of posters here are kinda regulars in a Cheers (the TV show) fashion. I get that a lot are very (some would think overly) attached to their femShep/s. I also get that a lot are female and/or have a vested interest in seeing that all things femShep related are propagated and furthered. An admirable goal, make no mistake. That does not warrant calling a mob together (even if it's a mob of one) to defend fellow regulars. Are you saying that we femShep supporters are to weak to stand up for ourselves (here I refer to the singular, not collective)? Or are you saying that regular posters to this specific thread are to weak to stand up for themselves? Or is this thread just home to a clique of "one for a select few, a select few for one" muskateers?

I don't think the answers to those three questions are 'Yes'. It therefore baffles me that we should "OMG teh ph34r" any other thread where posting of femShep is encouraged, or if not encouraged at least within the bounds of the OP.

Perhaps those posting here have become so softly tip-toeing around each other's femShep/s that our skins have grown too soft to handle even the mildest of constructive criticism. Or perhaps it is only those "any femshep player/fan known to me from here" as you put it, and that those ones are no longer welcoming of any opinions about femShep in general (or their own creations of femShep), or of 'newbies' and/or 'non-regulars'.

Anyway, I may very well be wrong on all counts above.  Just posting the feelings of a reasonably new ME/ME2 player, an even newer femShep player, and a male player to boot.

[KyreneZA]

Sialater wrote...

Kyrene wrote...
I've been reading the combined ME3 Shepard thread from the start and the only nastyness I saw was when some overactive Sheploo fangirls (edit: one two of them being brand new to the forums) had a disagreement with Sialater on page 3-4. They apologised, but I'm not sure Sia had the good grace to ever accept the apologies and actually post her femSheps afterwards (the original on page 3 was edited). It's been quiter than this thread for sure, but rather civil too. Much like this thread.

Just to set the record straight, I accepted the fangirl's apology via PM and have since posted all my Shepards in that thread multiple times.  I've sorta shoved Rachel down their throats, considering she was the one that got the "ewww." response.

And for the same record, it wasn't the "iinsult" to my Shepards that I had an issue with.  It was that she said femsheps aren't welcome, all she wanted to see was Sheploo.  THAT's what I had an issue with. 

However, her strongest reaction was to Rachel and I so totally could have opened yet another can of worms of and called her racist.

Good for you.  I was unaware of that, and when it happened I started skimming over negative posts.

[CrazyRah]

I'm not going to say anything about the combined thread except that I don't feel comfortable there and this thread is probably one of the few places on the BSN i feel good and enjoy the cozy feeling from everyone here and everyone here is pretty damn awesome! If people want to post there then by all means do so.
I'm all for constructive criticism but outside this thread i've yet to see more of it then pure BS and insults. *shrugs*

Have a FEMshep

Modifié par CommanderSarah, 22 août 2011 - 02:37 .

[Sialater]

Kyrene wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Kyrene wrote...
I've been reading the combined ME3 Shepard thread from the start and the only nastyness I saw was when some overactive Sheploo fangirls (edit: one two of them being brand new to the forums) had a disagreement with Sialater on page 3-4. They apologised, but I'm not sure Sia had the good grace to ever accept the apologies and actually post her femSheps afterwards (the original on page 3 was edited). It's been quiter than this thread for sure, but rather civil too. Much like this thread.

Just to set the record straight, I accepted the fangirl's apology via PM and have since posted all my Shepards in that thread multiple times.  I've sorta shoved Rachel down their throats, considering she was the one that got the "ewww." response.

And for the same record, it wasn't the "iinsult" to my Shepards that I had an issue with.  It was that she said femsheps aren't welcome, all she wanted to see was Sheploo.  THAT's what I had an issue with. 

However, her strongest reaction was to Rachel and I so totally could have opened yet another can of worms of and called her racist.

Good for you.  I was unaware of that, and when it happened I started skimming over negative posts.

That was because she ninja edited her posts after I called her on her bull****.  Sorry, you can give me con-crit all you want, I can take it.  (For instance, Rachel's cheekbones are far more sharp than I intended, but I'm afraid if I correct them, they'll look worse.)  But when you tell me my Sheps aren't welcome in their own fanthread?  No, uh-uhn.  I call bull****.

[FireEye]

Kyrene wrote...
Anyway, I may very well be wrong on all counts above.  Just posting the feelings of a reasonably new ME/ME2 player, an even newer femShep player, and a male player to boot.

A good chunk of the FemShep players around here are male.  Including some of those involved with the kerfluffles in the ME3 thread, if I'm not mistaken. 

Anyway.  There's concrit for the sake of being helpful and trying to uplift people, there's "concrit" for the sake of being an jerk, and there's grudgewank.  Most of the crap that went down in the ME3 thread?  Wasn't trying to be helpful, nor was it fostering a healthy environment where we can all kick back and enjoy the snazzy of Shepard. 

(And I'm sure it doesn't help that the Sheploo thread was closed shortly before the fighting started.)

Maybe it's gotten better since the initial ******.  But I would be willing to wager that if everyone in the FemShep thread was active in the ME3 thread, complaints would start up again, simply because the FemShep supporters are simply more vocal and talkative than DudeShep players, and certain DudeShep players (not all by any means) will take affront to this (because they have in the past - up to and including decrying FemShep as a mistake because she has a following).

(Personally, I'd love it if a unisex Shep thread worked and we could all just get along, but... well...)

Modifié par FireEye, 22 août 2011 - 03:08 .

[Ottemis]

Kyrene
I might come off a bit harsch in the next bit, but i've heard your argument before, and it annoys me:

If I choose not to expose myself to possible negativity with reason, that is my right.
I personally think shooting off negativity towards people that are (obviously) proud of something is rude, unfeeling and very unnecessary. If someone would specifically say "Hey, this is my Shep, what do you guys think?" then sure give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. In any other situation it's, in my opinion, uncalled for; internet or not.

In my mind the idea behind a fan thread is the fact we all fall under the same header of loving commander Shepard, whether that is him/her in general or more specifically our own incarnations of it, negativity towards people that come somewhere for the same reason you do kind of breaks the intention of the thread doesn't it? I don't think I'm wrong here.

The negative toning on this entire forum does my head in anyways.
I couldn't give a ****s handle if it's 'that way everywhere' and we should 'have a thicker skin' when we can choose what we expose ourselves to, and that's what I'm doing.
If everybody wouldn't be such a ****-bag because they think spurting their negative opinions is something that people will appreciate to hear, I wouldn't have to limit myself to the more civil parts of these forums where people treat each other as regular human beings, with real feelings and all that jazz.

Now this is all I'll say about this issue.

[adneate]

If you have a thread where someone can jump down another person's throat just for posting a screenshot or you tolerate people who put a gremlin head on someone's character and then proceed to lecture them that how they choose to make characters is "wrong" then you shouldn't be surprised there's no sense of community there. I for one hope that thread dies the death it's deserved months ago and I will never post in it ever.

[Captain Crash]

adneate wrote...

If you have a thread where someone can jump down another person's throat just for posting a screenshot or you tolerate people who put a gremlin head on someone's character and then proceed to lecture them that how they choose to make characters is "wrong" then you shouldn't be surprised there's no sense of community there. I for one hope that thread dies the death it's deserved months ago and I will never post in it ever.

This.

The fact theres always two different conversations going on between to seperate fan groups means its a incoherent mess at times.   Its like its some sort of contest to upstage each other.

[Tup3x]

Captain Crash wrote...

adneate wrote...

If you have a thread where someone can jump down another person's throat just for posting a screenshot or you tolerate people who put a gremlin head on someone's character and then proceed to lecture them that how they choose to make characters is "wrong" then you shouldn't be surprised there's no sense of community there. I for one hope that thread dies the death it's deserved months ago and I will never post in it ever.

This.

The fact theres always two different conversations going on between to seperate fan groups means its a incoherent mess at times.   Its like its some sort of contest to upstage each other.

Yup. Some times it runs smoothly but then there will be times when it explodes or is just about to explode.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 22 août 2011 - 03:51 .

[leggywillow]

Perhaps you could contact one of the regulars in the ManShep fan thread about approaching the moderators and making separate ManShep and FemShep threads simultaneously?  They might be more open to reconsidering their position that way.

ETA:
That said, as someone who has always been on the fringes of this thread and never really gotten a lot of replies here, I am not in favor of transplanting this thread to the ME3 boards as-is.  Yes, communities on the Internet often have to be tight-knit in order to remain friendly, but this thread has a reputation for being very clique-ish.  Infrequent posters are often ignored.  It seems more like chatting among friends and stroking each other's egos over certain favorite Shepards rather than welcoming new faces.

There's nothing wrong with what you guys have here, but you do already have it... well, here, and (I think) on Femshep.com.  Yes, ME3 spoilers don't belong on an ME2 board, but it seems to be this community vibe you guys want to transplant over there.

Modifié par leggywillow, 22 août 2011 - 03:49 .

[meonlyred]

I have to agree with Ottemis, I've been posting in there for awhile now because I know at some point ME2 threads will be closed and we will have to start posting there sooner or later. So far most criticism I've seen in there has been far from constructive. Here most of us follow the rules of 'if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all' or we try to find something good to say about it. There not so much. Not saying that everyone there is nothing but trolls. I've actually found some cool MaleShep/Sheploo fans. But you are wading into shark infested waters when you visit that thread. Here there is more of a sense of community. We post questions back and forth to each other, "what would your Shepard do..." and such. We love our Shepard clearly but we are also curious about each others. There not so much. Also I'm not saying there hasn't been any issues here, but problems between one another is resolve in a surprising short time. There problems snowball and go on for pages and pages.

It is very cool what SAK is trying to do. Really we should support all Shepards, male or female. But with the level of hate that has greeted us with the whole FemShep and voting thing, some are just looking for chances to jump and tear each other apart. Some MaleShep fans feel threaten by the level of attention FemShep has gotten and FemShep fans have developed a knee jerk to any negativity toward her. We've heard all the insults before and are ready to go on the attack at a moments notice, which isn't a bad thing. But when we mixed the two its like shaking a box of angry bees.