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[Yuqi]

AwesomeName wrote...



Posted this in a CE thread, but thought I'd share here too - was in Game earlier today and all the ME3 CE promo boxes were coverered with Femshep (and I couldn't see any Manshep anywhere). Pretty sweet

OMFG that is awsome.Iw onder if my local game has done that too..

[fast_elvis]

All our local Game shops seem to have gone exclusively Femshep:)

[Ottemis]

Rosewind wrote...
Ahhh Kill it with Fire lol .... Really dont like her.

Whatever floats your boat. Or doesn't, in your case.

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Cool that she's showing exclusively on some shelves / stores, happy to see it =)

Modifié par Ottemis, 07 janvier 2012 - 01:57 .

[SaturnRing]

Rosewind wrote...

Ahhh Kill it with Fire lol .... Really dont like her.

at some point we [ i...] all gonna have to get over it and accept her;). how she looks has never been the real issue for me; how she was presented to us in the other hand i felt, was a little demeaning; and i have issues when someone new is introduced to carry the banner while the entire cc and former jane have done it ( very well ) so far. i feel as if femshep had to give up a little bit of what makes her so unique just to please more people. But new generic Jane just like the rest of us, got swept in those events. i'm sure all she wants is to be accepted for who she really is ( what  we make her...):innocent: . She is part the ( awesome ) femshep family now. 

Modifié par SaturnRing, 07 janvier 2012 - 04:57 .

[Rosewind]

SaturnRing wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Ahhh Kill it with Fire lol .... Really dont like her.

at some point we [ i...] all gonna have to get over it and accept her;). how she looks has never been the real issue for me; how she was presented to us in the other hand i felt, was a little demeaning; and i have issues when someone new is introduced to carry the banner while the entire cc and former jane have done it ( very well ) so far. i feel as if femshep had to give up a little bit of what makes her so unique just to please more people. But new generic Jane just like the rest of us, got swept in those events. i'm sure all she wants is to be accepted for who she really is ( what  we make her...):innocent: . She is part the ( awesome ) femshep family now. 

Good Point, mind you I haven't seen any in game images of her never know I might like the in game version of her.
But for now I am going to treat her like the annoying girl who always hangs around and nobody likes lol (I know mean aren't I).

Edit: For some reason her boobs look really pointy in that picture lol.

Modifié par Rosewind, 07 janvier 2012 - 07:59 .

[DiegoElFuego]

Shepboobs

bring back the Me1 wedgie

Modifié par DiegoElFuego, 07 janvier 2012 - 08:28 .

[SaturnRing]

Rosewind wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Ahhh Kill it with Fire lol .... Really dont like her.

at some point we [ i...] all gonna have to get over it and accept her;). how she looks has never been the real issue for me; how she was presented to us in the other hand i felt, was a little demeaning; and i have issues when someone new is introduced to carry the banner while the entire cc and former jane have done it ( very well ) so far. i feel as if femshep had to give up a little bit of what makes her so unique just to please more people. But new generic Jane just like the rest of us, got swept in those events. i'm sure all she wants is to be accepted for who she really is ( what  we make her...):innocent: . She is part the ( awesome ) femshep family now. 

Good Point, mind you I haven't seen any in game images of her never know I might like the in game version of her.
But for now I am going to treat her like the annoying girl who always hangs around and nobody likes lol (I know mean aren't I).

Edit: For some reason her boobs look really pointy in that picture lol.

Like any roockie, she has to earn her place ( get the coffee...) but eventually she will be a full member of the team.
:Dhmm!...Armor piercing?! they must be branching out! 

[Knubbsal]

<-- Almost-default Femshep was not amused with voting choices.

I'm not sure if I'll get the Femshep box. Eventhough I never play him, Manshep looks cooler than the new Femshep...

[Hedera]

You do know that it's just the default, right? Just looking up and down the left side of this thread shows me the reason why none of this matters. Everyone here has their Shepard. It's not like ME3 is going to say "I know you have a custom but TRYOURNEWDEFAULTORELSE". If you don't like her, don't use her. Honestly, the whining back when she was announced was plenty. We don't need to turn this into an ME3 Default hate thread. And I'm sorry for going off, but it's frustrating to browse the forums and get nothing but people angry because ME3 isn't EXACTLY what THEY want. I've gotten that out of my system. By all means go back to hating.

[CrazyRah]

cgrimm54 wrote...

You do know that it's just the default, right? Just looking up and down the left side of this thread shows me the reason why none of this matters. Everyone here has their Shepard. It's not like ME3 is going to say "I know you have a custom but TRYOURNEWDEFAULTORELSE". If you don't like her, don't use her. Honestly, the whining back when she was announced was plenty. We don't need to turn this into an ME3 Default hate thread. And I'm sorry for going off, but it's frustrating to browse the forums and get nothing but people angry because ME3 isn't EXACTLY what THEY want. I've gotten that out of my system. By all means go back to hating.

This, this so frickin much this. Thank you for saying it.

It's okey not to be a fan of her but i so very much agree with what grimm say

Modifié par CrazyRah, 07 janvier 2012 - 11:25 .

[sagefic]

CrazyRah wrote...

cgrimm54 wrote...

You do know that it's just the default, right? Just looking up and down the left side of this thread shows me the reason why none of this matters. Everyone here has their Shepard. It's not like ME3 is going to say "I know you have a custom but TRYOURNEWDEFAULTORELSE". If you don't like her, don't use her. Honestly, the whining back when she was announced was plenty. We don't need to turn this into an ME3 Default hate thread. And I'm sorry for going off, but it's frustrating to browse the forums and get nothing but people angry because ME3 isn't EXACTLY what THEY want. I've gotten that out of my system. By all means go back to hating.

This, this so frickin much this. Thank you for saying it.

It's okey not to be a fan of her but i so very much agree with what grimm say

me too.

femshep is

1) a woman 

2) who saves the galaxy however she sees fit

&

3)  whose boobs are fully covered

THIS is a reason to cheer. whatever her face looks like makes no nevermind to me

[Hedera]

What I said was angry, and I'm sure some people here might take it as an insult; maybe even a direct insult. That's not it. What we have here is a thread devoted to FemShep, in all of her incarnations. Even (God save me) Femloo has its horrible, mind-breaking place here. We post here to shovel mountains of love on what I, and possibly others, believe to be the best damn female protagonist ever. Hyperbole (or is it?) aside, Whether we like it or not, BioWare has a new face for FemShep in ME3. She represents countless Shepards they will never know, both past and future. In my personal opinion, she looks pretty badass. You don't have to like her, but she got us much more recognition than we had a year ago, and you damn well have to respect that.

[Tup3x]

When it comes to box art I like to keep thing simple and that's why I prefer this over any Shep picture:

[SaturnRing]

Knubbsal wrote...

<-- Almost-default Femshep was not amused with voting choices.

I'm not sure if I'll get the Femshep box. Eventhough I never play him, Manshep looks cooler than the new Femshep...

i have a sheploo kristian that i will import. i will probably give the new generic* jane a try too. i just wish they weren't that many bullpup guns in ME 3. they will cramp deirdre's style.


*Feel free to elaborate on why you don't like the new generic femshep if you like. i'm listening ( reading ). 

Modifié par SaturnRing, 08 janvier 2012 - 02:18 .

[sagefic]

SaturnRing wrote...
Feel free to elaborate on why you don't like the new generic femshep if you like. i'm listening ( reading ). 

I'll try.

I actually don't dislike her. I don't like her. I feel nothing about her at all, really, which I suppose is what I'm saying.

Default Jane was my placeholder: she was the gal that popped up every time I hit the CC and tried to perfect my *own* Shep's look. I never used her, but I kind of got used to seeing her as 'that shepard gal'. i was sad her design did not seem as well-thought-out as male shep. she always struck me as a little too, um, 'forgetable' is the word i want to use. she didn't have the oomph i wanted. but she WAS jane all those years.

MyShep is my own (<--not sure I like that abbreviation, but there it is). In my case, that's Kyrie, and I'm growing fonder of my renegade alt, too. But MySheps are mine. I'm never going to see them on a cover. No one is going to know them but me and perhaps the people I share them with might care to know them. But I really don't care if they ever get recognized. What I *do* care about is that there is enough RPG in the bioware games for me to flesh them as characters and enough and graphic design goodness to make their looks a good counterpart to their personalities.

^Since NONE of that will ever translate to a marketing blip or a trailer or whatever, I don't pay much attention to the marketing. I read a Kotaku article that pointed out what's best about bioware games NEVER translates into their trailers. it's the hidden stuff you could never market or even explain to non-fans that I adore (mordin singing gilber and sullivan; bullrushing al-jilani at last).

So no matter what shep they pick as poster girl, It's not shepard to me. not really.

Custom Sheps are often amazing. Even if I like my shep best, and her story *is* shep's story to me, there are so many awesome custom fan creations - ESPECIALLY for femshep, who never really had a sheploo-type following of the default jane. As i peruse the galleries of femsheps, deviantart, and yes, even playing a bunch of these gals in recording that femshep vid, it struck me how much care and love went into the development of those femsheps. their personalities informed their graphic design: they were painstakingly crafted in the limited CC over dozens of playthroughs in some cases. the time and effort shows. each of them ARE femshep - they are a take on the woman that femshep might be and how the galaxy shapes around her. it's written on their faces, and it really, REALLY shows.

NewShep was designed by committee. (like a camel)  No, not even that. She was picked by hordes of people - many of whom do not even PLAY as femshep. many of them were men who openly said things like 'she's hot' and 'i'd hit that.' when voting. then the outrage was that the blonde, fair shep won the first vote (the horrors!) and since that was too barbie-like and not soldierly enough (and really, what did we expect given the comments of many people voting) a re-vote was held to determine coloring. hence we pull back to redhair/greeneyes defaultish jane.

now, don't get me wrong. new jane does look good. only, frankly, she should have gotten this attention from a design team years ago and NOT have been subjected to a vote.

That is my opinion. I am not trying to say the result is not a nice-looking shep. I am also THRILLED at some recognition for femshep. Only a vote-in beauty contest, on facebook, voted by people who largely would rather 'nail' femshep than play as her or acknowledge her as a legitimate version of shepard. well, frankly, the whole thing left me thinking... Meh.

It's amazing femshep is getting recognition at all, given how sci-fi shooter games usually market women. But still, it was hardly the great step forward for women protagonists in video games that it could have been.

Also, the resulting fan art - the one where NewShep is falling back on her butt - well, i wasn't so impressed.



She looks hurt and pissed off. It's hardly the 'I'm always standing and I never fall look at how many guns i have' image that Sheploo always projects. Think about it: you put Sheploo in that pose and he'd look like a wuss. Put femshep in and it's...sexy? Bah.

So, there. that's my 2 cents/five bucks, whatever.

I don't dislike HER, but I was less than blown away by the progressive manner in which she was spawned. I was not a huge fan of default jane from before, but neither did I dislike her.

In short, this new jane is not shep to me. All the custom femsheps are. And to me, MyShep is always the 'real' Shepard.

Modifié par sagequeen, 08 janvier 2012 - 03:12 .

[JamieCOTC]

sagequeen wrote...

CrazyRah wrote...

cgrimm54 wrote...

You do know that it's just the default, right? Just looking up and down the left side of this thread shows me the reason why none of this matters. Everyone here has their Shepard. It's not like ME3 is going to say "I know you have a custom but TRYOURNEWDEFAULTORELSE". If you don't like her, don't use her. Honestly, the whining back when she was announced was plenty. We don't need to turn this into an ME3 Default hate thread. And I'm sorry for going off, but it's frustrating to browse the forums and get nothing but people angry because ME3 isn't EXACTLY what THEY want. I've gotten that out of my system. By all means go back to hating.

This, this so frickin much this. Thank you for saying it.

It's okey not to be a fan of her but i so very much agree with what grimm say

me too.

femshep is

1) a woman 

2) who saves the galaxy however she sees fit

&

3)  whose boobs are fully covered

THIS is a reason to cheer. whatever her face looks like makes no nevermind to me

Pretty much this.  Also note that unlike ME2, ME3 default playthrough will have more content, though you will be stuck w/ renegade choices of ME1. 

[Ottemis]

cgrimm54 wrote...

You do know that it's just the default, right? Just looking up and down the left side of this thread shows me the reason why none of this matters. Everyone here has their Shepard. It's not like ME3 is going to say "I know you have a custom but TRYOURNEWDEFAULTORELSE". If you don't like her, don't use her. Honestly, the whining back when she was announced was plenty. We don't need to turn this into an ME3 Default hate thread. And I'm sorry for going off, but it's frustrating to browse the forums and get nothing but people angry because ME3 isn't EXACTLY what THEY want. I've gotten that out of my system. By all means go back to hating.

+1

[Rosewind]

cgrimm54 wrote...

You do know that it's just the default, right? Just looking up and down the left side of this thread shows me the reason why none of this matters. Everyone here has their Shepard. It's not like ME3 is going to say "I know you have a custom but TRYOURNEWDEFAULTORELSE". If you don't like her, don't use her. Honestly, the whining back when she was announced was plenty. We don't need to turn this into an ME3 Default hate thread. And I'm sorry for going off, but it's frustrating to browse the forums and get nothing but people angry because ME3 isn't EXACTLY what THEY want. I've gotten that out of my system. By all means go back to hating.

You missed the point the point is we are all happy with the default Jane and we didn't need her to be changed into a constipated looking Barbie doll who looks like she would cry at the first sign of battle because she broke a nail.
And I did mention before we only really have seen concept art and promotional art I said I might like her in game appearance but I haven't see it yet, we all know in game models look completely different to the artwork.

Modifié par Rosewind, 08 janvier 2012 - 04:17 .

[Ottemis]

Rosewind wrote...
You missed the point the point is we are all happy with the default Jane and we didn't need her to be changed into a
constipated looking Barbie doll who looks like she would cry at the first sign of battle because she broke a nail.
And I did mention before we only really have seen concept art and promotional art I said I might like her in game appearance but I haven't see it yet, we all know in game models look completely different to the artwork.

Right well, in my opinion she doesn't look like that at all. It's also rather offensive.
The point was the negativity around her has none, waste of time and energy, there's a CC for a reason.
So why rage hmm?

Modifié par Ottemis, 08 janvier 2012 - 04:21 .

[Calico]

I personally don't like the way the new FemShep looks, but that's why I'll be using my custom Shepard when I play the game. Everyone has a different idea of what she should look like--there's probably no design that would please everyone. I'm just glad FemShep's finally getting some marketing.

*goes back to lurking*

[Rosewind]

Ottemis wrote...

Rosewind wrote...
You missed the point the point is we are all happy with the default Jane and we didn't need her to be changed into a
constipated looking Barbie doll who looks like she would cry at the first sign of battle because she broke a nail.
And I did mention before we only really have seen concept art and promotional art I said I might like her in game appearance but I haven't see it yet, we all know in game models look completely different to the artwork.

Right well, in my opinion she doesn't look like that at all. It's also rather offensive.
The point was the negativity around her is pointless, waste of time and energy, there's a CC for a reason.
So why rage? What's the point? None.

You say I am  raging but what happens if they change the default male Shepard to some one who looks like well vega or someone who is much more muscley and they did a vote on who finds him the most attractive. I admit Sheploo is attractive but least he looks like he fits the roll.
They could just dressed up the old Femshep instead maybe give her new hair and a little more colour. What outrage me the most is that they put her to a vote and the only reason why they did change her was to appeal to teenage boys really, she meant to be 30 but she only looks like she 20ish. Anyway I am done nerd raging criticise what I said if you want.

Modifié par Rosewind, 08 janvier 2012 - 04:25 .

[sagefic]

Rosewind wrote...
she meant to be 30 but she only looks like she 20ish

while maleshep looks nigh on 40.

same deal with hawke. garret looks 36, marion looks around 26. actual age of both is, what? 21 at beginning of game? verrry strange.

[Hedera]

Rosewind wrote...

You missed the point the point is we are all happy with the default Jane and we didn't need her to be changed into a constipated looking Barbie doll who looks like she would cry at the first sign of battle because she broke a nail.
And I did mention before we only really have seen concept art and promotional art I said I might like her in game appearance but I haven't see it yet, we all know in game models look completely different to the artwork.

Sigh....
This was beaten to death months ago when the whole FemShep Facebook Voteapalooza happened.  (I chose that word to show what I think of it.)  Whether she looks like a barbie doll who would cry about her manicure or looks like Sheploo with breasts is not really what I was getting at either.  What matters is what Sage and Jamie are saying.  That regardless of what the Default OMGITZFEMALESHEPARD looks like, we have our own Shepards to love.  

As you said constipated, however, I assume you're referring to the picture Sage posted above.  
This one.
I would actually agree that THAT particular image makes her look very young and very irregular.  However, the picture that will shortly be gracing the back front of my Collector's edition is not that one.  It is the one you happen to see on those GAME adverts AwesomeName so kindly posted.  That is the real New!Default!Fem!Shep.  Which I personally don't think looks remotely incontinent.  If you do, well, then by all means you are allowed to think that.  Actually, you can even start a whole new thread about it, if you were so inclined.  But that conversation happened already, and dredging it up also brings back a lot of old anger.  Anger that threatened the usually peaceful realm of Femshep we currently occupy.  I don't mean to be forceful, I just want you to know that I would really love it if the Femshep thread stayed a fortress of awesome in the sea of discontentment that is the BSN.  Getting all upset over something we cannot change will only hurt us in the long run.  
And, of course, to make my post even longer;), but more related to the topic we're here for:

By Minijuuku


By a-stric

And our new, ME3 lady, NeoJane.

By triggercini

Modifié par cgrimm54, 08 janvier 2012 - 04:37 .

[meonlyred]

Rosewind wrote...
You missed the point the point is we are all happy with the default Jane and we didn't need her to be changed into a constipated looking Barbie doll who looks like she would cry at the first sign of battle because she broke a nail.
And I did mention before we only really have seen concept art and promotional art I said I might like her in game appearance but I haven't see it yet, we all know in game models look completely different to the artwork.

And what part of her looks like a Barbie doll? I fail to see how she won't kick someone's ass ten ways from Sunday. Was it the part she has long hair? Or that it was red? Freckles maybe? I found your statement extremely offensive. She is attractive makes her weak? Because we all know that only ugly women can fight.

But here is the kicker to all of this. You. Do. Not. Have. To. Play. Her. She will only appear for 3 minutes in the Femshep trailer and on the back of the Collectors Edition.



All hail the Pissed off Ginger!

[Rosewind]

sagequeen wrote...

Rosewind wrote...
she meant to be 30 but she only looks like she 20ish

while maleshep looks nigh on 40.

same deal with hawke. garret looks 36, marion looks around 26. actual age of both is, what? 21 at beginning of game? verrry strange.

I don't think Sheploo looks 40 think he looks about 30 - 35.

Male Hawke only looks older because of the beard,facial hair makes men look older then they are.