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[Sable Phoenix]

SkaldFish wrote...

Sable Phoenix wrote...

I really need to start my final ME1+2 playthrough with Jessica to get her geared up for ME3. Surprisingly, I'm not excited for ME3 like I thought I'd be, it's just this quietly building anticipation; like getting ready to go on a trip to visit an old friend you haven't seen for a while. I think that's probably an indicator of how unique Shepard is among game characters, that she feels like a real person.

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This. Exactly.

After having just played through Skyrim (well, as much as you can ever "play through" Skyrim...) with a lovely and strong, but mute, expressionless, personality-less female Dragonborn, the truth of that is even more striking. I made her LOOK like a real person (and hey -- no duck lips -- the CC in Skyrim is crack!), but that didn't get me very far. I found myself constantly muttering Femshep-like dialogue under my breath as I played to try to compensate, but it just didn't work.


Just another pretty face...

I think that's probably a Bethesda thing, and possibly an open-world thing, more than it is a mute-PC thing.  Dragon Age Origins had a classic mute-PC and it made me cry at the end because I loved the characters so much.  My mage Warden had a brief experimental romance with Leliana, fell way in love with Alistair, didn't trust Morrigan with her Darkspawn-child idea at all, so she chose the ultimate sacrifice... and it was just wrenching.  A text-only interface can be very powerful if done right, one can go back as far as Baldur's Gate and Planescape:Torment to see that.

I'm not saying that femShep would be just as powerful a character if she was unvoiced, there's no question that Jeniffer Hale's sterling performance is a huge part of her on-screen presence.  But it also needs good character writing to carry it forward.

edit: Eep!  ToPShep!  I think starting 1701 (the registry number of a certain famous starship) deserves a Never-Before-Seen Jessica screenie.


"Jokeeerrr... I'm not going to have to check the extranet bookmarks again, am I?"

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 05 février 2012 - 08:32 .

[SkaldFish]

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Sable Phoenix wrote...
I think that's probably a Bethesda thing, and possibly an open-world thing, more than it is a mute-PC thing.  Dragon Age Origins had a classic mute-PC and it made me cry at the end because I loved the characters so much.  My mage Warden had a brief experimental romance with Leliana, fell way in love with Alistair, didn't trust Morrigan with her Darkspawn-child idea at all, so she chose the ultimate sacrifice... and it was just wrenching.  A text-only interface can be very powerful if done right, one can go back as far as Baldur's Gate and Planescape:Torment to see that.

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Excellent points. Thinking about it, it is probably more about the quality of writing and of the immersion experience (especially good-quality in-game character development) than the simple fact of a classic RPG "mute" character.

Modifié par SkaldFish, 07 février 2012 - 03:20 .

[Yakko77]

Couldn't help myself. Finished a femgineer over the weekend with ME1 (every mission, reached lvl 57 in around 30 hrs IIRC) and am well on my way with her in ME2 to get me in the mood for the ME3 demo next week... or sooner if I manage to get early access. Good times!

[MizzNaaa]

rynluna wrote...

Did I misread something or are we getting a FemShep trailer like real soon??

Yes, yes we will!
*Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

[Jane Shepard]

A FemShep trailer soon??? Great!!!


"I need to change my dress"


"Ha! Done!"

[janeway11]

Modifié par janeway11, 13 août 2012 - 09:36 .

[SaturnRing]

janeway11 wrote...

I hope there will be more kick ass armors in ME 3 for female Shepard.

TIW?

[SkaldFish]

rynluna wrote...

Did I misread something or are we getting a FemShep trailer like real soon??

OK, what did I miss?

BTW, good "I'm psyched" article by Lucas Siegel on Newsarama here.

"After March 6, 2012, when Mass Effect 3 hits my consoles, I don't think I need any other video games to come out."

[Silver]

FemShep Trailer tomorrow !!!!!

thank CrazyRah for alerting the new femShep Thread so I can alert you now

[Sable Phoenix]

So... this thread seems to be abandoned in favor of the ME3 version, but since it's now the quieter corner of the femShep subcommunity where all us old fuddy-duddies can come to hang out and reminisce about our younger days, maybe we could use it for some more in-depth analysis of the trailer outside of all the noise of the "new default femShep looks plastic" variety.

I have to say that Hale's delivery of the "Tell your friends we're comin' for them" may just turn out to be the iconic quote for the character out of the whole game. Every time I've watched that trailer (which is now several) it's made the hair on my arms stand up for some reason. No disrespect to Mark Meer, but none of manShep's lines have ever done that to me; that trailer is an encapsulation of everything that's great about playing femShep.

As for the bad... I find I'm not a fan of the new redesigned femShep, as much as I would like to be. I cannot figure out if that's just because I'm so locked in to hearing Hale's Shepvoice come out of Jessica's mouth, so I can't identify with this new redhead, or if it's because of something about the face itself. Speaking as someone who's taken multiple life-drawing classes and graduated from an art college, her proportions do seem to be very slightly off. Despite that, she carries expressions well and makes me excited to see the animation work once I can get Jessica into the game.

And hanging out the window of a moving hovercar to shoot at Kai Leng? Awesome scene. Does anyone else find themselves excited at getting the opportunity to curbstomp this guy? I haven't actually read any of the Mass Effect novels (IP tie-in novels are usually, to be kind, sub-par), but from what I have read about Kai Leng in the wiki sites paints him as a wholly loathsome amoral xenophobe, and I hate him already. He's one of the few characters I will actually enjoy killing off, preferably in the most painful way possible (right up there with His Sliminess the Illusive Man). FemShep taking him out as payment for slaughtering helpless asari carries a certain poetic justice, I find.

[Sable Phoenix]

Never-before-posted picture of Jessica:


"Tell your friends... we're comin' for them."

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 11 février 2012 - 12:47 .

[SaturnRing]

Avoiding the other thread for now; i'm apprehensive of how my Deirdre will turn out in ME 3. I'm not  attempting to get any codes; rather push the inevitable to tuesday.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 12 février 2012 - 01:06 .

[mander83]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

As for the bad... I find I'm not a fan of the new redesigned femShep, as much as I would like to be. I cannot figure out if that's just because I'm so locked in to hearing Hale's Shepvoice come out of Jessica's mouth, so I can't identify with this new redhead, or if it's because of something about the face itself. Speaking as someone who's taken multiple life-drawing classes and graduated from an art college, her proportions do seem to be very slightly off. Despite that, she carries expressions well and makes me excited to see the animation work once I can get Jessica into the game.

It was hard for me to determine whether I disliked the new femShep or if she just didn't feel right because she wasn't my Shepard. In the end, I think I only disliked her because she's so different from mine. It didn't seem right to have that voice coming out of someone else.

The wait for this game is killing me. I got early access to the demo and it was beyond fantastic. I've finished my last playthrough on both of the other games...so it's just waiting now (Skyrim and Dragon Age are not satisfying). I though I'd pop on this part of the BSN and see who was still around. I haven't been here since...well, months and months ago.

And just to make this post more femShep-y...my lovely Io Shepard.

[KyreneZA]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

So... this thread seems to be abandoned in favor of the ME3 version, but since it's now the quieter corner of the femShep subcommunity where all us old fuddy-duddies can come to hang out and reminisce about our younger days, maybe we could use it for some more in-depth analysis of the trailer outside of all the noise of the "new default femShep looks plastic" variety.

Walking ten miles to the Normandy SR-1, in the snow, uphill, both ways...

...puts some classic '80's synth pop on the turntable, turns the volume knob (yeah the big round one) on the amp to 80% of max, sets the needle on the record and...

Relax (don't do it) by FGtH blares from the speakers for the next 16:25 minutes. Yeah, I put on the "Sex Mix," sorry. I need about that long to get my mind back from the vacuum of the ME3 thread.

...later...

So? The long awaited femShep trailer? My only complaint is that it was too short. By about 8 minutes. But then I grew up on 12" remixes and B-sides.

[Sinapus]

Kyrene wrote...

Sable Phoenix wrote...

So... this thread seems to be abandoned in favor of the ME3 version, but since it's now the quieter corner of the femShep subcommunity where all us old fuddy-duddies can come to hang out and reminisce about our younger days, maybe we could use it for some more in-depth analysis of the trailer outside of all the noise of the "new default femShep looks plastic" variety.

Walking ten miles to the Normandy SR-1, in the snow, uphill, both ways...

...puts some classic '80's synth pop on the turntable, turns the volume knob (yeah the big round one) on the amp to 80% of max, sets the needle on the record and...

Relax (don't do it) by FGtH blares from the speakers for the next 16:25 minutes. Yeah, I put on the "Sex Mix," sorry. I need about that long to get my mind back from the vacuum of the ME3 thread.

Great. I don't have access to that song, but now I can hear it in my head. ("Huahh!!! Wooo!")

[KyreneZA]

Sinapus wrote...

Great. I don't have access to that song, but now I can hear it in my head. ("Huahh!!! Wooo!")

Right band, possibly wrong song. You may be thinking of "War" (War! Huahh! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing! Say it again. Huahh!)


Kassia: "What do you mean Niket doesn't like '80's music?"
Mirands: "Are we talking current, twenty-first century, or twentieth century, '80's, Shepard?"
Kassia: "Why do you always do that, Lawson?"
Grunt: "Can't we just rip 'em apart anyway, Battlemaster?"

[Sinapus]

Kyrene wrote...

Sinapus wrote...

Great. I don't have access to that song, but now I can hear it in my head. ("Huahh!!! Wooo!")

Right band, possibly wrong song. You may be thinking of "War" (War! Huahh! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing! Say it again. Huahh!)

No, I think I'm remembering a live concert version of the song. Definitely had the "Relax! Don't do it!" refrain. Oh well.

[KyreneZA]

Sinapus wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

Sinapus wrote...

Great. I don't have access to that song, but now I can hear it in my head. ("Huahh!!! Wooo!")

Right band, possibly wrong song. You may be thinking of "War" (War! Huahh! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing! Say it again. Huahh!)

No, I think I'm remembering a live concert version of the song. Definitely had the "Relax! Don't do it!" refrain. Oh well.

Hey, you're right. The U.S. Mix of Relax has that "Huahh!" a number of times. Good memory for an old guy!

[SaturnRing]

@Kyrene wrote...

@Sinapus wrote...


Thanks to both of you now i can't get WHAM out of my head. Ahhh! The [good] old days.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 14 février 2012 - 02:16 .

[Sinapus]

SaturnRing wrote...

@Kyrene wrote...

@Sinapus wrote...


Thanks to both of you now i can't get WHAM out of my head. Ahhh! The [good] old days.

Since I don't think either of us mentioned WHAM, that's entirely your fault... 

(...though now I'm getting half-forgotten lyrics from them stuck in my head. D'oh... must switch earworm to "Rush" "Van Halen" "The Fixx" "A Flock of Seagulls" or heck, even "The Alan Parsons Project" to save sanity!!!)

[KyreneZA]

SaturnRing wrote...

@Kyrene wrote...

@Sinapus wrote...


Thanks to both of you now i can't get WHAM out of my head. Ahhh! The [good] old days.

Just go with it... you know you want to "wake me up before you go-go"...

[SaturnRing]

Kyrene wrote...

SaturnRing wrote...

@Kyrene wrote...

@Sinapus wrote...


Thanks to both of you now i can't get WHAM out of my head. Ahhh! The [good] old days.

Just go with it... you know you want to "wake me up before you go-go"...

Although that sci fi ambiance screams  D... D...; i'm a step away from having visions of blond hair waving freely in the wind.

Modifié par SaturnRing, 16 février 2012 - 09:14 .

[KyreneZA]

Fare thee well, old femShep thread. You had a good run!

*imagine femShep toasting picture here*