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philiposophy wrote...

I'm intrigued. Can you explain why this is so?

There are no great changes in their dialogues or options, are there? I would have thought that there is no greater difference in the character of a female Shepard than there would be for my custom male Shepard when compared with the default male found on the adverts.

Certainly. With the caveat that all of this will be subjective and open to interpretation, of course.

I initially started up ME1 with a manShep. I had seen the promos, seen their Sheploo commercials and it was only after IGN leaked a video that showed the character creator that I went ahead and got the game, because I just didn't really care for Sheploo.

So I played ME1 with a custom manShep. It was alright, but the more I played, the more I became disconnected from the character. He didn't speak or act the way I wanted him to, so I became increasingly frustrated with him acting as my proxy in the gameworld. So eventually I came to the conclusion that in order to have a relation to Shepard, I would have to treat him as I would an NPC. And much to my dismay, I found I simply did not care for him, mainly because of the voice acting and also because I found him to be too much of a generic sci-fi hero stereotype.

Then I tried a femShep and suddenly that same disconnect was there, only now the relation was reversed. Instead of becoming more and more frustrated, the fact that Shepard was now a woman, meant that she was in no way my proxy and never could be (I'm male) in the sense that I've normally related to my male player characters. I liked the voice better, I've always been a Jennifer Hale fan but more to the point I loved the fact that as a woman, Shepard was every bit as capable as her male counterpart and because of that, she's infinetely more unique than most other women in videogames. I still treat femShep as an NPC - but to me she is interesting, likeable and just much more satisfying to play as, because as a woman, Commander Shepard breaks many of the dogmas surrounding protagonists in videogames, whereas the male version is an exercise in conforming to conventions.

In my opinion, anyway.

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 17 septembre 2010 - 12:01 .

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rynluna wrote...

We're militant fans? 

Dammit, no.  More like the person in the link earlier, in general, no.

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mashavasilec wrote...

um. my annoyance comes from the fact that femshep was completely left out of marketing materials. i want to see what i will be playing. i want to know what it will sound and look like.

I'm going to add on to this.  I'm not asking for FemShep to be on the box, I'm not even asking for her to be in any TV commercials (although that would be awesome.)  I'd love to just be able to see her on their website, maybe some screenshots, wallpapers, promotional stuff, whatever before the game comes out.

Main example is all the DLC armors and such.  They always show what these look like on MaleShep only.  I'm not going to buy something if I can't even see what it looks like on the character I'm playing.  I did end up buying the Kestrel pack, but not until some kind soul posted their own pictures of how it looked on FemShep.  I'm doing my best to give Bioware my money.  I don't think it's too much to ask to see something before I buy it.

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rynluna wrote...
We're militant fans?  Well I only think that's the case because FemShep is almost a well-kept secret.  Most of my friends had no idea you could play as female.  And if we're going to talk about voice acting, I'll only say that Hale is severely underappreciated for her fantastic work in this franchise.  Sure, she gets plenty of love from us, the fans but I think I would get an ulcer if we ever got to hear her voice an advertisement for Mass Effect.  Holy crap!

Exactly!  If I had known that I could play as female at all, I would have been following Mass Effect from the beginning, instead of ignoring it as much as that Sonic RPG Bioware made.  Once it came out on PC, I saw a screenshot in a magazine...not even of FemShep, but of Kaidan, with a subtitle saying he was FemShep's love interest.  I was suddenly one hundred percent more interested in Mass Effect.

Once I started playing, that's when I realized what a great character Shepard was.  FemShep really is the best female protagonist in any modern video game, in my humble opinion, and it takes nothing away from MaleShep, it's just my opinion.  The fact that I enjoy playing as FemShep enough to talk about her in a support thread just means that I'm very satisfied with what Bioware has done with her, and I'm excited about sharing my experience with other fans.  I don't consider that "militant."

[philiposophy]

@ Delerius_Jedi

Thank you for your explanation.

I think I can see where you are coming from even if I do not arrive at the same conclusion you did. Having a disconnect with the protagonist is never a huge problem for me, perhaps because I am the opposite of what any protagonist like Shepard is: s/he is charismatic and powerful, but I am physcially unimposing and reclusive.

Modifié par philiposophy, 17 septembre 2010 - 12:06 .

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I really liked Mark Meer as Tug the Dwarf in Leliana's song he was fantastic, so I don't think he's a bad voice actor quite the opposite he's very talented. I just don't like hearing a fellow Canadian be forced to talk in an American accent, I'd love it if ManShep just went "It's aboot friggin time to get some GD beers eh!". I would recant everything then.

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adneate wrote...

I really liked Mark Meer as Tug the Dwarf in Leliana's song he was fantastic, so I don't think he's a bad voice actor quite the opposite he's very talented. I just don't like hearing a fellow Canadian be forced to talk in an American accent, I'd love it if ManShep just went "It's aboot friggin time to get some GD beers eh!". I would recant everything then.

Plus his Bible improv is awesome, it really is. I would've loved for Mark to do a more rogue-ish Han Solo type Shepard, which, if you look at some of the early ME1 footage, seems to be what they were going for. Alas, was not to be

philiposophy wrote...

@ Delerius_Jedi

Thank you for your explanation.

I
think I can see where you are coming from even if I do not arrive at
the same conclusion you did. Having a disconnect with the protagonist is
never a huge problem for me, perhaps because I am the opposite of what
any protagonist like Shepard is: s/he is charismatic and powerful, but I
am physcially unimposing and reclusive.

Oh neither am I. I just happen to be past the age where the classical stereotypes do much for me. Same reason I don't play Halo. femShep sounds like she cares more in many of the paragon scenes, which is also a big factor for me.

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 17 septembre 2010 - 12:16 .

[Babli]

In every game, where I can choose female instead of male character, I do it. Mainly because I´m already bored with all the men characters in other games and despite I´m a man I feel more connected to my character when it is a woman, heh..

[blackashes411]

Hi everybody! Just found this awesome thread and would like to share my adoration of Femshep. Not male bashing here, of course; I'm currently playing dude Shepard and having a blast, but just something about Hale's voice brings something very unique to Shepard's character that haven't seen in other video game characters. Plus, playing as a chick who's a pro at handling guns and has the qualities of a strong leader are kinda of a turn-on for me.

Here's another addition to the beautiful Femshep mosaic. This is my Femshep that have dedicated most of my ME game time on. Maybe not as magnificent as some other Femshep's here, but I personally I LOVE HER!

Kyla Shepard

[Yana Montana]

^ Very pretty!

[JamieCOTC]

@ blackashes411
She is very pretty. Nice job!


finally got my femShep to sit and now she looks sad.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 17 septembre 2010 - 12:44 .

[sagefic]

wow, i see i shouldn't have just said, "oh, hey, have you seen this?" and then left the thread. i in no way was meaning to endorse that article or anything. it was just a "oh, hey, what do you know? an article supporting femshep."

i don't mean to knock meer or maleshep or anything. so...yeah. no intention to offend.

i just like femshep.

[AngryFrozenWater]

There's a lot to be said about that Gamasutra article, but at least the author knows where to get his data from. /me mumbles something about a popular poll. Hehe.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Ah. So this is how it feels to be militant. It feels better than I expected.

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There's been no militancy in this thread since the link was posted...

As to before, I wasn't looking for it.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 17 septembre 2010 - 01:43 .

[PseudoEthnic]

I recently played a bit of Halo: Reach, and I was shocked to find out that you can play a male or female during the campaign, and it's fully voiced. It was already fun to play the campaign as someone who wasn't Master Chief, but to play as a female(with the custom armor of your choice) really made the game for me(and I'm a male.)

[AngryFrozenWater]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

There's been no militancy in this thread since the link was posted...

As to before, I wasn't looking for it.

We are not militant after all? That's a disappointment.