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[jlb524]

Valagil wrote...

While I didn't write anything down, I have sort of rationalized a lot of the story in my head. I kind of went into this saying okay, we are not seeing everything.

I do the same in the game all the time.  Though, I do also have RP reasons for why my Shepard doesn't seem all that concerned with her own death and resurrection.  

[Chignon]

mashavasilec wrote...

Chignon wrote...
I'll whine with you!

i mean if you don't even romance anyone you kinda have no meaning in your life. there's no middle dialogue option. that's what pissed me off recently. what the hell, do i have to pick a romance now to experience fabled Shepard-emotions? 

Obviously. I hate it, too. All of my Shepards still haven't had the chance to deal with what happened to them - not only them dying but also everything that happened after that. And because of what? Chosing the "wrong" LI or maybe even none at all? I like Liara very much but Bioware should really rectify that.

Modifié par Chignon, 04 octobre 2010 - 03:12 .

[ADLegend21]

Chignon wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...

yeah, well, my Sheps who didn't romance Liara are still devoid of life. i'll probably keep on whining until it's rectified

I'll whine with you!

me too!

[jlb524]

It seems they are working hard on bringing us more content...I hope it is Ash/Kaidan DLC.



With FemShep emotions running wild!

[Chignon]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

As others have said, there's reason to be confident that this will be addressed in the VS DLC, whenever it is announced and released. Shepard's death, and the manner in which it affected Ashley or Kaidan was touched upon on Horizon. I'm confident that it will be explored to a greater extent in the DLC.

LotSB was extremely promising in that it really did develop the relationship between Shepard and Liara, but also fleshed out the former's character to a degree. I'm hoping that this continues with a VS DLC.

If it is announced and released.

All the silence - I can't believe it is oversight - surrounding Kaidan and Ash doesn't make me feel very hopeful for my FemSheps.

[Jagged Orchid]

I'm confident that Bioware will deliver. I was originally a little worried about the LotSB DLC. I have very high expectations despite telling myself not to get my hopes not. Not an easy task considering Liara was the focus of this particular DLC. All in all I was pleased with the way it turned out. Not only did the ME story get fleshed out I also got to continue my relationship with Liara.



I'm looking forward to seeing what Bioware plans to do with future bridging DLC. I think it's necessary because the story has become so detailed. There is so much that needs to be resolved in ME3. It's also for selfish reasons because I can't get enough of Shepard and her story.

[sagefic]

mashavasilec wrote...

Chignon wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...

yeah, well, my Sheps who didn't romance Liara are still devoid of life. i'll probably keep on whining until it's rectified

I'll whine with you!

i mean if you don't even romance anyone you kinda have no meaning in your life. there's no middle dialogue option. that's what pissed me off recently. what the hell, do i have to pick a romance now to experience fabled Shepard-emotions? 

that is very true. it seems that shep only can have emotions if he/she is deliberately trying to *emote* for someone. or if someone draws it out of her - take your pick. but yes, non-romanced shep has no one to talk to. very few friends in the shep universe.

i, too, add a lot in my head. i take it that garrus had WAY more to say than calibrations.

and my shep, though not a drinker AT ALL also visited kasumi's hangout after horizon and got blitzed. she still isn't sure how she got back up to her cabin that evening.

[jlb524]

sagequeen wrote...

and my shep, though not a drinker AT ALL also visited kasumi's hangout after horizon and got blitzed. she still isn't sure how she got back up to her cabin that evening.

Grunt...piggy-back ride. 

[sagefic]

jlb524 wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

and my shep, though not a drinker AT ALL also visited kasumi's hangout after horizon and got blitzed. she still isn't sure how she got back up to her cabin that evening.

Grunt...piggy-back ride. 

oh! THAT'S what it was.

[Vralenalien]

Valagil wrote...

I'm confident that Bioware will deliver. I was originally a little worried about the LotSB DLC. I have very high expectations despite telling myself not to get my hopes not. Not an easy task considering Liara was the focus of this particular DLC. All in all I was pleased with the way it turned out. Not only did the ME story get fleshed out I also got to continue my relationship with Liara.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Bioware plans to do with future bridging DLC. I think it's necessary because the story has become so detailed. There is so much that needs to be resolved in ME3. It's also for selfish reasons because I can't get enough of Shepard and her story.

I agree with this.
I'm actually wondering when if ever there comes time when I've had enough of Shepard and her story. She's such force of nature to me.

I also add things for the story in my head. Sometimes I think I shoudl write some of it down, but haven't got down to that part yet.

[Chignon]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'm confident that Ashley and Kaidan will be back soon. It's a question of when and not if, IMO.

I wish I had your faith.  

  

[jlb524]

Speaking of fan fic, who all around here writes it for their Shepard?

@Chignon

That's a great picture!

Modifié par jlb524, 04 octobre 2010 - 03:54 .

[adneate]

mashavasilec wrote...

i mean if you don't even romance anyone you kinda have no meaning in your life. there's no middle dialogue option. that's what pissed me off recently. what the hell, do i have to pick a romance now to experience fabled Shepard-emotions? 

The reason that this kind of stuff is filtered through romance subplots is probably to allow people who don't want Shepard to have emotions a way to opt out, or at the very least see the consequences of their actions on others. Without a second character any emotional scene would have to have Shepard carry it, which then makes it difficult to have a choice on the wheel that makes Shepard opt out of the scene they started. Shepard going through these things alone would create a very polarized reaction, some would love it and others would be incredibly pissed off at being railroaded into something they didn't want to do. I mean I know of people who were upset that their Shepard was had friendly banter with Liara in LotSB and said it "ruined" their immersion in the game.

Though you could filter this stuff through the friendship paths, in Dragon Age some of them were fantastic and just as profound as the romance path. I guess gutting the conversation system in ME2 in exchange for reloading guns and killing things better probably wasn't the best decision in terms of the RP part of an RPG. In my view the series is still struggling to find it's mark, ME1 was a better story but crap gameplay while ME2 the gameplay was so much better but the story went down the tubes. Maybe they'll get it right in ME3 at least LotSB shows the potential the team has, I just hope they follow through with it.

[Chignon]

Thank you, jlb!



I don't write fanfic but I do make up little stories for my Shepard, to get a better feel for her. (:

[jlb524]

adneate wrote...

The reason that this kind of stuff is filtered through romance subplots is probably to allow people who don't want Shepard to have emotions a way to opt out, or at the very least see the consequences of their actions on others. Without a second character any emotional scene would have to have Shepard carry it, which then makes it difficult to have a choice on the wheel that makes Shepard opt out of the scene they started. Shepard going through these things alone would create a very polarized reaction, some would love it and others would be incredibly pissed off at being railroaded into something they didn't want to do. I mean I know of people who were upset that their Shepard was had friendly banter with Liara in LotSB and said it "ruined" their immersion in the game.

People want their Shepard to be an emotionless robot?  For shame! 

I see your point, though.  I wish there was some way around that.  They could always have a neutral response maintained throughout the entire convo, so Shepard can be like the entire time, if desired.

[Jagged Orchid]

jlb524 wrote...

Speaking of fan fic, who all around here writes it for their Shepard?

I've thought about writing some stuff for my Shepard. I have so much back story and events my Shepard has experienced both before and during ME. However, I've said it before, I classify myself as a reader and not a writer. I've become quite addicted to reading fanfic. I love to read what other's have weitten. I just don't think I could properly tell her story. It plays out so much better in my head than it does on paper

random side note: Jib I just realized I have your story faved. I didn't even make the connection until a few minutes ago.

[Sable Phoenix]

I have a head-canon too, but it’s mostly dealing with what happens in Jessica’s head, and with the background stuff that happens in the universe around her.  Basically, her actions are almost exactly what you see in game, there are few private conversations that aren’t seen on-camera, if any.  When I first played ME2, I constantly had this dichotomous feeling that got to be oppressive: on one hand, an overwhelming sense of loss that started with seeing the Normandy go down, and was reinforced by every encounter with someone or something from the past (which is only the last couple months in Shepard’s perception, AND the player’s, only heightening the surreal effect); and two, the constant pressure to save the people who were disappearing.  My Shepard concentrated on the latter so hard because she didn’t want to face the former.

Part of this response comes from Jessica’s difficult past.  Outside of her Alliance service, she literally has nothing to call her own, no home, no family, and quite frankly she doesn’t want to go back to anything in the past anyway.  She doesn’t even like to be called by her first name because it’s too closely tied to things she doesn’t want to remember.  The Normandy became her home; that was her ship and she loved everything about it.  That ship and the people aboard it were her one anchor in the galaxy.  Then suddenly it was destroyed around her and she tumbled into space, suffocating and panicking, knowing she was going to be dead in minutes.  Then she wakes up, still terrified, still in pain, and everything she cares about is gone.  So she does the only thing she can to cope, put her head down and charge.  Everything she valued, her Alliance service, her home and ship, her lover, her friends, have all been taken away or are beyond her reach – she really has nothing left to live for, but she can at least accomplish something good and save other people who do.

I also believe this was largely intentional on the Illusive Man’s part.  Give her enough that is familiar that she can latch onto it for reference (Joker and Chakwas, who she was friendly with but had no real close relationship too), but not enough to identify with.  One reason he outright lies and says Liara might be working for the Shadow Broker (c'mon, he knew better and so did Miranda) is to keep Shepard from chasing off after her right away, to make sure that isolated feeling settles in for a bit.  A disoriented and rootless Shepard will be a lot easier to control, and maybe a touch of Stockholm Syndrome will set in.  I’m sure he wasn’t pleased when Archangel turned out to be Garrus.  I also believe TIM himself engineered the “attack” on Lazarus Station (wasn’t Wilson one of his “best operatives”?), because there is absolutely zero explanation for it.  What better way to keep Shepard’s mind on the track he desires than to throw her into a battle the instant she wakes up?  Let that combat training take over and dictate her actions for you.

Anyway, that’s the basis of my head-canon.  I could go on, but this is too long already.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 04 octobre 2010 - 04:12 .

[jlb524]

Valagil wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Speaking of fan fic, who all around here writes it for their Shepard?

I've thought about writing some stuff for my Shepard. I have so much back story and events my Shepard has experienced both before and during ME. However, I've said it before, I classify myself as a reader and not a writer. I've become quite addicted to reading fanfic. I love to read what other's have weitten. I just don't think I could properly tell her story. It plays out so much better in my head than it does on paper

random side note: Jib I just realized I have your story faved. I didn't even make the connection until a few minutes ago.

Oh you do?  Thanks!!!!!!...I'm planning on an update tonight.  The next chapter is loooong.

I used to be just a reader too, but I had a lot of ideas and I wanted to write them down.  It's taken me months to get the nerve up, but I did it.  The tricky part is organizing all your cool ideas into readable fiction. 

Modifié par jlb524, 04 octobre 2010 - 04:10 .