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[ELE08]

Valagil wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

anyone have any suggestions for a paramour chapter?

I have an evil one in mind.  FemShep and Saren. 

That is...um...evil:blink:

Seen it.  In the immortal words of Zaeed, I **** you not.

@ sagequeen: If the TIM chapter scarred you, stay far far away from the masskink meme.  You may never play mass effect again.  And we need continued screenies of Kyrie.

[RubyRed1975]

I have only played as Sheploo once and I couldn't stand it  It was horrible. Sadly though something bad did happen to me. All my ME1 saves got corrupted some how. Don't really know what happened. So now I have to do all new playthroughs. It makes me sad because, as much as I love ME1 I prefer the combat in ME2 so this is going to be hard

Modifié par RubyRed1975, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:19 .

[sagefic]

ELE08 wrote...

Valagil wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

anyone have any suggestions for a paramour chapter?

I have an evil one in mind.  FemShep and Saren. 

That is...um...evil:blink:

Seen it.  In the immortal words of Zaeed, I **** you not.

@ sagequeen: If the TIM chapter scarred you, stay far far away from the masskink meme.  You may never play mass effect again.  And we need continued screenies of Kyrie.

oh, i know. believe me, i know. some of my fanfic got "lifted" to contribute to that site. not authorized, highly out of context and, of course, it was the smuttier parts of my work. i saw just enough of that site to decide "ew."

Modifié par sagequeen, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:26 .

[JamieCOTC]

Catching up with the last 20 pages …

Love and Death and Commander Shepard

I recall an interview w/ a couple of devs, can't remember who, talking about ME2 and the intro of the game. Basically Shepard died so that the player could redo his/her face. It was also a nice way to "start
over" for players who are just coming to the series. Knowing BW, there will probably be more to it in ME3 or future DLC, but for ME2 it was just a means to an end.  As for Shep lamenting her own death, femShep can do this
through the Jacob romance.  I'm fully aware that adding this scene to the Jacob romance only is most likely against some Amnesty International treaty or whatnot, but femShep does get to vent about her death in ME2. (To be fair, it is one of the better parts of the romance). Here is a variant of the scene:

Shep doesn’t seem to be bothered by being dead per se, but she confesses to being lonely, that everyone around her has changed while she is still the same.  It’s like she’s entered into some sort of time warp and in a way that’s what happened.  She says, “It’s only been a few weeks” for her and two years for everyone else.  It’s
interesting to note that only femShep does this in the game proper, giving a hint of credence to the manShep is the avatar and femShep is the character theory.  Another note on the scene is that Sheps’ paragon response confesses “survivor’s guilt” and the renegade response is lamenting on the “burden of command.”  I haven’t heard either as I’ve never played out the Jacob romance.  I tried to once and my computer broke.  Coincidence? 

While LotSB does a good job of allowing Liara to deal w/ Shepard’s resurrection, Shep still remains fairly mute on the subject, save a couple of jokes.  As much as I would like her to at least ponder the question, I’m not certain she will.  Popular culture is littered w/ heroes and villains alike who have risen from their graves.  Everyone from Superman to Sherlock Holmes has come back from the great beyond.  The mistake many make, including BW (for ME2 anyway), is that it becomes a plot point that is either hastily discarded or glossed over.  It is, as pointed out before, a means to an end and nothing more.  Still, I have to give BW points for trying.  In burying Shepard’s soul searching lament on time lost within the femShep/Jacob romance, BW tried to have their cake and eat it too. John Shepard could remain resolute and stoically unaffected by this death and Jane Shepard could choose to go
either way.  Had the femShep/Jacob romance been well written then it would have worked.  Sadly, even the priiiiiize of femShep’s lament isn’t worth that much effort.


The Four Billion Dollar Woman

The first person femShep sees (and lives past a few seconds) after getting off the operating table at the Lazuras Project is Jacob Taylor.  He informs Shep that she was killed, “dead as dead can be,” and that she has been receiving upgrades for the past two years to bring her back to life.  So, early on, BW does do a relatively good job in connecting femShep w/ Jacob to her new developments.  Unfortunately, that doesn’t last. Imagine asking Carth from KOTOR all those personal questions about his life and instead of getting a frustrating, yet good natured teasing non-answer, he just politely told you to f*ck off.  That’s Jacob Taylor.  It’s not that he’s a bad character; it’s just that he is a block of granite when it comes to emotions. Still, they both have that early connection and like it or not, Jacob becomes the go-to guy for all of femSheps emotional needs.  Outside a full on romance, anyway. 

So, when things cool down and Shepard opens up a bit about her upgrades, she does so with Jacob.  One would think that the subject would come up with Dr. Chakwas or Mordin, but nooooo. Unlike the galaxy, BW doesn’t seem to like diversity. As with the undead trope, Shepard’s upgrades warrant only a passing mention or
worse, a lead in to the Jacob romance.  Again, the upgrades are, for ME2, only a means to an end, but do provide an interesting alternative to simply spending points to toughen the
character.  Thing is, it’s a game and in a game, action is the main event. However, by bringing a more cinematic scope to games such as ME and Dragon Age, it also brings these questions more into
focus.  If ME were a movie, Shepard would deal w/ being dead.  She would deal w/ being upgraded and not just make a flippant remark about it.  If she didn’t audiences would feel cheated.  With a game it’s a little bit
different.  BW doesn’t have the time and resources of a Warner Bros, so they have to make a choice on what to leave out.  That said, the more cinematic games become, (no matter how valid the excuse), the more disappointed players may become if the games don’t pay in full. 

As to what BW will do w/ Shepard’s upgrades in ME3, we can only guess.  I seem to recall some chatter on this thread about Shep becoming the mother of a Reaper.  I wouldn’t put it past BW to do something like that, but I think it is pointing to something a little closer to home.  I have no doubt that BW is turning Shep into Saren, or at least giving the Council, the Alliance and even some friends reason to believe she is headed down the same path.  I won’t go into any detail as that’s already been discussed in various threads, suffice to say her cybernetics may eventually link her to something, and perhaps even a Reaper ala Saren.  Back to the point of Shep’s upgrades, as a person who has had upgrades of his own (a kidney transplant 15 years ago and still going), I can somewhat relate.  While I think about it every day, I don’t dwell on it.  For Shepard, she does have other things on
her mind, like the fate of the human race.  Still it is unrealistic not to at least dwell a little on the fact that there are pieces of her that are gone and are never coming back. That there are now other “bits and pieces” in her body, foreign objects, not meant to be there. That’s not to mention that Shepard is hardwired and can be hacked by an
AI.  I loved the bit in Overlord where Shepard gets hacked, but there needed to be some follow up to that.  Should Shepard be implanted w/ firewall protection?   What if she’s hacked by a Reaper?  I know it’s just a game, but these issues should be addressed and hopefully they will in future DLC and ME3.  Until then, my post-Overlord head-canon will go something like this.

Shepard: What in God’s name were you thinking? That AI just hacked into my brain.
Miranda: Our conventional methods were not advancing fast enough.  We had to resort to cybernetics to get you up
and running. And the AI only hacked into your optic nerves, but point taken nonetheless. 
Shepard: Wasn’t advancing enough for whom?
Miranda: The Illusive Man.
Shepard: You should have told him to ****** off! That’s what I would have done!
Miranda: You weren’t exactly in a position to advice me, Shepard.  You were DEAD, remember?!
Shepard:  Yeah … every day. 


Lay Down, Kelly

Maybe I’m the only one who sees it this way, but I never felt flirting w/ Kelly was an evil sin against the main LI.   To me, flirting w/ Kelly is harmless and not just because it doesn’t count.  They are cutting the tension and Kelly allows Shep to be somewhat playful if she wishes to be. With my girl, she will flirt, but with only certain people.  It takes her a while to warm up (in my head-canon that is) but when she does she can be a bit playful.  In her history she would try not to get too close to people, but sex was something else.  She was no Jack, but she would go for someone she liked and then dump them if they got too close. As she matured that changed and she learned to gauge people better.   With Kelly, she could tell there was nothing concrete there.  No offense to Kelly, but
she couldn’t handle my Shep (or most other Sheps either).   It was a harmless fling that both parties knew would go nowhere.  It seems that a lot of people forget that Shepard has to initiate the flirting, so it’s not her fault in the slightest if Liara gets pushed to the side, if only temporarily.  The player can just choose to let Kelly “be herself”
and oddly enough, she won’t come on to you. That said …

Liara: Shepard, we need to discuss your Yeoman.
Shepard: For the love of … Okay, I’ll tell her to leave you alone.
Liara: What?  No.  I meant we need to discuss the relationship between you and Miss Chambers.
Shepard: Relationship?  There is no relationship.  Kelly and I are just friends.
Liara: Friends?  Since when do you go on dates with friends?
Shepard: Date?  There was no date.  We just had dinner in my cabin and then we talked … about you mostly.
Liara: Me?
Shepard: You weren’t exactly Miss Sweetness and Light that first time we met on Ilium.  I was lonely.  I didn’t have my blueberry.
Liara: Oh … but what about the flirting?
Shepard: Harmless.  It’s a human thing. 
Liara: I see. Was the strip tease a human thing too?
Shepard: Uhhh … Kelly was, um … modeling an outfit I was going to get … for you. 

*Kelly walks up*

Kelly: Hi, Shepard, Dr. T’Soni.  What’s up?
Liara: We were just discussing your rather casual attitude toward the Commander and --
Shepard: Kelly, tell her about the outfit you modeled for me. It’ll look great on Liara, don’t you think?
Kelly: Huh?  Oh … yes.  It will, Dr. T’Soni.  It’s perfect for an asari maiden like you.  In fact, I think Shepard should get one for herself. 
Liara: I think that’s an excellent idea, Miss Chambers.  And I do thank you for clearing up any misunderstandings. Perhaps we could all have dinner together sometime. 
Kelly: My pleasure.

*Liara walks away*

Kelly: You owe me big, Shepard. 
Shepard: Yeah, yeah. 
Kelly: Let’s see … you, me and Dr. T’Soni in your cabin tonight with you, in costume, dancing for the two of us.
Shepard: No way in hell.
Kelly: (yelling) Dr. T’Soni!!
Shepard: Alright, alright … *groan*


5 Easy Reasons to Love FemShep

1.      Jennifer Hale’s VA. femShep’s gender is almost never relevant to the story, but Hale’s performance somehow makes it relevant.   She can bark the commands, dig in the knife w/ p*ss off attitude, be a friend and melt cold steel w/ her sensual voice.  What else do you want?

2.      She is a strong female character who is thrust into a leadership position and then stacked against almost impossible odds.  She pulls no punches and makes no apologies for her decisions.  She is a leader and in the real world that shouldn’t matter, but in the gaming world, that it does matter because it is so rare.

3.      I know the expressions between femShep and dudeShep are normally identical, but for some reason, she pulls it off better.  Something about the combination of Hale’s VA and the femShep animations bring her to
life.  Almost as if the player were controlling a talented actress. 

4.      Her figure. femShep looks real and for the star of an action/rpg/space opera that is quite an accomplishment.  Miranda has the T&A covered in spades, so femShep can just be her own natural self. femShep is no slouch, but neither is she unrealistically big in some places while unrealistically small in others.  (Somewhere Laura Croft is screaming, “But they’re real, I swear!”)

5.      Mine has pretty blue eyes and she’s hot. 

 Ship to Ship: SR1 vs.SR2

I like the lighting better in the SR1 and I really miss the stairs.  Plus the SR1 had a more distinct
feel and vision about it.  The SR2 has a better Captain’s cabin, w/ a fish tank and other toys.  It also has a bar.  So, slap another paint job on the SR2 and give it SR1 lighting and I’ll be moderately happy. 


Pararenaggedon

The ME1 scars = cool. 
The ME2 scars = WTF. 

I dearly loved KOTOR and in the Star Wars universe going dark will change you.  Why this also happens in ME2, I have no idea.  I don’t remember Saren getting any scars.  I like the idea of Shep having a scar, and I understand that the renegade scar was BW, again, wanting to have its cake and eat it too.  Even though it makes no sense I was willing to play along, that is until no one noticed.  Imagine Dark femShep walking up to Kelly w/ tree bark for a face and red glowing eyes.  She’d ****** in her pants. 

Kelly: What are you?!
Shepard: Oh this? (points to face).  I, uh … cut myself shaving.  And the eyes are contacts.  Cool, isn’t it.
Kelly: I-if you say so, Commander.
Shepard: You don’t believe me?  I feel you lack of faith disturbing, Kelly.
Kelly: W-what?
Shepard: Nothing.  Just messing with ya.  Carry on.

As to the actual system, I’m not a fan of either system from ME1 or ME2. It’s like BW took the KOTOR light/dark jedi system and plucked into Mass Effect, but somehow forgot to put in morally questionable characters who
will side w/ the renegade.  As much as I hated Canderous in KOTOR (got on my wrong nerve) I wouldn’t mind having a character like that in ME3 if they continue down the path of the Jedi.   


Love vs. Things not quite as important as the galaxy

The galaxy will always win, but for those little terrors that plague the galaxy, but don’t destroy it, the choice between LI and X gets tough.  My main girl’s LI is Liara.  And if I can digress a bit, something in her character changed after LotSB.  She became hopeful.  She was no longer fighting for a faceless galaxy, but for a future together w/ her blueberry.  UJ is a colonist/sole survivor, (yeah, I wanted to make her as mentally baked as possible), and she has been alone for over half her life. She’s seen both friends and family killed horribly.  In her early years she was mostly a loner, though approached sex rather casually with a no strings policy.  With Liara, she has finally felt like she is where she belongs and as foolhardy as it sounds, she placing all bets on Liara after the big event blows over.  She wants them to have a life together.  Unfortunately, that could be a big gamble.  If it came down between saving Liara and a colony of total strangers who couldn’t defend themselves, she’d save the colony.  Even if it were just a three people she never met, she’d save the three before Liara.   It would break her, but that’s just who she is.  Fortunately, Liara is quite capable of taking care of herself, even if UJ does miss coming to her rescue every now and again.

Liaribastila is a bit trickier.  Obviously Shep would try to coax Liara back to the light side, but if worse came to worse, she would not hesitate to kill her.   After LotSB, I don’t see that happening, (unless they change her personality again).  I think Liara will take TIM’s place and she and paragon Shep will likely butt heads on certain missions, but I don’t see her needing an iron lung any time soon. 


Second that Emotion

Warning: Spoilers for Witch Hunt

Can’t remember who posted it, but there was some discussion on the difference between the player giving femShep a soul and BW making her into their own character.  Did I get that right?  Hopefully, I got the gist.  LotSB did something wonderful.  It let femShep emote and I haven’t seen a single soul complain about it in this thread. 
However, there have been complaints to the “canonizing of Shepard”.  Not my words, btw, however I did feel that
LotSB was a bit too scripted.  To be honest I don’t think I would have cut anything out, but I would have changed or
added some of the responses.  Like Witch Hunt, LotSB plays best if you either have Liara as LI or a very good
friend.  Unlike Witch Hunt, if you hate Liara’s guts, you’re pretty much forced to like her.  In WH, you can kill Morrigan.  In LotSB you can tell Liara that it’s not a good idea to come up the Normandy and thereby break her little blue heart.  First of all, I don’t give two f*cks for those who hate Liara and complained about the DLC.  You’re gonna get what you are gonna get.  (note: I have no sympathy for those who took Liara up to the Normandy and then didn’t get the ending they wanted.  If they didn’t like her, they should have left her blue butt back at the SB base).  Second, it’s a DLC and BW tends to experiment more through DLC, which is both evident
in LotSB and Overlord.  Come ME3, things will need to be a little more equal.  I think that SB is a huge step in the right direction, but they need to back off just a tad on the scripting.  Letting Shepard emote through interrupts was brilliant.  Letting Shepard hug Liara though the dialogue wheel was brilliant too.  It allowed the player to chose Shep’s direction.  I could even imagine Shep being able to get mad, scream and yell or even cry through the dialogue wheel.  I want my femShep to have a soul, but I also want those who only see an avatar to have fun too.  Yeah, it’s tricky, but hopefully w/ the next DLC(s) coming out we can get an ME3 that will please both camps … for the most part
anyway.

Finally, to whoever said Ash/Kaiden should save Shep in the rumored VS DLC, I agree 100%.  Now, I’m
done.

EDIT: For Word Formatting

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:45 .

[adneate]

Valagil wrote...

Nice screenies. My canon is a soldier. I love the class.

Seems to be for quite a few people, I tend to enjoy classes in RPGs are on the complex side of the spectrum. Though for Mass Effect I love the sense speed that being a Vanguard has in ME2, you're zipping around the field in a biotic haze blasting people at point-blank range with a shotgun, at times it can almost feel too fast! Though that's where the class really sucked me in, it's fast and brutal but oddly graceful too.

Modifié par adneate, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:34 .

[ADLegend21]

jwalker wrote...

Kelly ? I see no chapter with Kelly ... or that would be to 'easy' ?:innocent:

I'm mostly aiming for crack pairings, things you can't see in the actual games or novels, which is why I'm actualyl kinda hesitant about parasini and Shiala since they've shown an intrest in shepard and Kelly is the less awesome version of Liara because she can go both ways. but I think I couldbe able to work Kelly into a chapter if nothing else pops into my head or is suggested.

[JamieCOTC]

ADLegend21 wrote...

jwalker wrote...

Kelly ? I see no chapter with Kelly ... or that would be to 'easy' ?:innocent:

I'm mostly aiming for crack pairings, things you can't see in the actual games or novels, which is why I'm actualyl kinda hesitant about parasini and Shiala since they've shown an intrest in shepard and Kelly is the less awesome version of Liara because she can go both ways. but I think I couldbe able to work Kelly into a chapter if nothing else pops into my head or is suggested.

femShep/Saren.  That would be a crack pairing. 

[adneate]

RE: Love vs. Things not Quite as Important as the Galaxy

Since I brought the scenario up I suppose it's only fair that I answer it myself. Personally I'd probably go very far to have Shepard save her LI (Liara in this case) thousands of lives wouldn't make me reconsider, it would probably take hundreds of thousands of lives before I seriously considered abandoning Liara. What's the point of saving the Galaxy if you lose your reason to live in it? Survival just isn't enough. In fact in this scenario where Shepard has had to lose someone like Liara an Ultimate Sacrifice ending wouldn't be such a bad thing, it's not to be overdramatic but simply that it's easier than having to live with that for the rest of your life.

"Duty is as heavy as a mountain, Death is light as a feather."

Modifié par adneate, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:55 .

[ADLegend21]

JamieCOTC wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

jwalker wrote...

Kelly ? I see no chapter with Kelly ... or that would be to 'easy' ?:innocent:

I'm mostly aiming for crack pairings, things you can't see in the actual games or novels, which is why I'm actualyl kinda hesitant about parasini and Shiala since they've shown an intrest in shepard and Kelly is the less awesome version of Liara because she can go both ways. but I think I couldbe able to work Kelly into a chapter if nothing else pops into my head or is suggested.

femShep/Saren.  That would be a crack pairing. 

that would end up like the Aria chapter.....XD

[JamieCOTC]

adneate wrote...

RE: Love vs. Things not Quite as Important as the Galaxy

Since I brought the scenario up I suppose it's only fair that I answer it myself. Personally I'd probably go very far to have Shepard save her LI (Liara in this case) thousands of lives wouldn't make me reconsider, it would probably take hundreds of thousands of lives before I seriously considered abandoning Liara. What's the point of saving the Galaxy if you lose your reason to live in it? Survival just isn't enough. In fact in this scenario where Shepard has had to lose someone like Liara an Ultimate Sacrifice ending wouldn't be such a bad thing, it's not to be overdramatic but simply that it's easier than having to live with that for the rest of your life.

"Duty is as heavy as a mountain, Death is light as a feather."

I totaly agree w/ you and heck if it were me personally, it probably would have to be hundreds of thousands too. My girl has just evolved into someone who just couldn't do that.  In fact, if that situation were presented to her, she's screwed either way.  I like the quote, btw. 

[jlb524]

I still haven't played ME2 a significant amount as a Vanguard....I should do that some day. I've pretty much beat it with every other class.

[Fraevar]

@JamieCOTC: Up to and including that video you posted I found the Jacob romance almost passable. It's what happens after this scene that ends up making the whole thing terrible. But in general I just think that BioWare needs to separate the character development from the romance plots and they need to do it fast. Dragon Age: Origins completely pummels ME1 and ME2 in this area, so it can be done.

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 07 octobre 2010 - 03:18 .

[ADLegend21]

jlb524 wrote...

I still haven't played ME2 a significant amount as a Vanguard....I should do that some day. I've pretty much beat it with every other class.

You'll be hooked from the very first charge.

[adneate]

JamieCOTC wrote...
I like the quote, btw. 

If I recall correctly it's Japanese in Origin, part of the Bushido tradition of the Samurai in which self-sacrifice is a large part of a warrior's lifestyle.

[sagefic]

JamieCOTC wrote...

And if I can digress a bit, something in her character changed after LotSB.  She became hopeful. 

okay, snipping like mad on your awesome wall o' text: YES.

and you said a future with her blueberry - i will say that i found it hopeful even without doing a liara romance OR being great friends with her. until that moment, i saw liara as this person my shep had inadvertantly hurt and always misunderstood - then suddenly, this person is back, being a friend, and there is this sense of hope and something to look forward too - an ally that isn't bought with Cerberus bloodmoney. (okay, there are some who weren't before the mission - tali, garrus, but you know what i mean). 

i found LotSB to be like this massive infusion of hope into the ME2 darkness. i LOVE that dlc.

[MarkusWhatever]

Meh, you people write too much while I'm gone. I can never catch up to the current topic.

[f1r3storm]

That basically sums up my thoughts everytime when i see the ending of ME2.




While that makes me laugh hard...

Modifié par f1r3storm, 07 octobre 2010 - 01:00 .

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f1r3storm wrote...

That basically sums up my thoughts everytime when i see the ending of ME2.

I'm surprised with the number of people who think The Reaper fleet cannot be beaten in an open fight, Vigil says that they are not invincible and can be destroyed through conventional means. The Quarians alone have 50,000 starships, who knows how many the 4 council races have at their disposal and the Heretic Geth were only 10% of that race but they had tons of ships in the Battle of the Citadel. If you could concentrate every armed starship and fighter in the galaxy in one place for one battle against the Reapers you'd have a pretty realistic shot at swamping the Reapers with sheer numbers and utterly destroying them. The most complex part of the battle plan would be intelligence and logistics, you'd have to get the Reapers to come straight at the fleet and you'd have to work out a Mass Relay schedule that gives you enough time to get ships from all over the galaxy concentrated in one place.

It's a bit like taking down a German tank in WWII, it might take 5 or 6 Allied tanks before 1 German tank was knocked out but we had the numbers and they didn't so in the end we won the war.

[lastpatriot]

@ JamieCOTC,

I just finished reading over your “long” post and I really appreciate your comments and the level of detail you went into explaining your point of view.  The great aspect of this thread is that we all have the same basic hope which is that we can continue to build upon the “soul” (as you call it) of our own Shepard based upon her background and personality.

In my run for LotSB, my Shepard wasn’t a huge fan of Liara but she respected her knowledge and considered her a friend (my Shep is very loyal to her crew).  In ME:1, my Shepard had issues with Liara in that she considered her too emotional and unwilling to pull the trigger when necessary.  This is mainly because my Shep was a colonist with the more ruthless personality due to the horrific conditions she was forced to deal with combined with an almost uncontrollable rage towards Batarians (Bringing Down the Sky) and slavers in general.  However, as events of ME:2 unfolded, she grew to respect Liara’s new found strength and Shepard had to admit that she may have misjudged her former crew-mate.  By the end of the DLC, their friendship became something that my Shep considered to be priceless because of not just the experiences they went through, but the ability to break down those emotional walls they both had.  In the end, Shepard found that she and Liara were much more similar than she would have believed.

My point is similar to yours in that with any good RPG, I want my Shepard to be, well, mine!  We all will play the character how we feel but in the end, my experience and yours should be different and that should reflect in the character as well.

Modifié par lastpatriot, 07 octobre 2010 - 01:36 .

[f1r3storm]

adneate wrote...

f1r3storm wrote...

That basically sums up my thoughts everytime when i see the ending of ME2.

I'm surprised with the number of people who think The Reaper fleet cannot be beaten in an open fight, Vigil says that they are not invincible and can be destroyed through conventional means. The Quarians alone have 50,000 starships, who knows how many the 4 council races have at their disposal and the Heretic Geth were only 10% of that race but they had tons of ships in the Battle of the Citadel. If you could concentrate every armed starship and fighter in the galaxy in one place for one battle against the Reapers you'd have a pretty realistic shot at swamping the Reapers with sheer numbers and utterly destroying them. The most complex part of the battle plan would be intelligence and logistics, you'd have to get the Reapers to come straight at the fleet and you'd have to work out a Mass Relay schedule that gives you enough time to get ships from all over the galaxy concentrated in one place.

It's a bit like taking down a German tank in WWII, it might take 5 or 6 Allied tanks before 1 German tank was knocked out but we had the numbers and they didn't so in the end we won the war.

I'm also wondering if and how Dark Energy and the weapon that disabled the Reaper around Mnemosyne might play out. Especially Dark Energy was mentioned more than once in ME2, while the latter might be a good basis to develop weapons to fight the reapers more effectively.

[Vralenalien]

JamieCOTC wrote...


5 Easy Reasons to Love FemShep

1.      Jennifer Hale’s VA. femShep’s gender is almost never relevant to the story, but Hale’s performance somehow makes it relevant.   She can bark the commands, dig in the knife w/ p*ss off attitude, be a friend and melt cold steel w/ her sensual voice.  What else do you want?

2.      She is a strong female character who is thrust into a leadership position and then stacked against almost impossible odds.  She pulls no punches and makes no apologies for her decisions.  She is a leader and in the real world that shouldn’t matter, but in the gaming world, that it does matter because it is so rare.

3.      I know the expressions between femShep and dudeShep are normally identical, but for some reason, she pulls it off better.  Something about the combination of Hale’s VA and the femShep animations bring her to
life.  Almost as if the player were controlling a talented actress. 

4.      Her figure. femShep looks real and for the star of an action/rpg/space opera that is quite an accomplishment.  Miranda has the T&A covered in spades, so femShep can just be her own natural self. femShep is no slouch, but neither is she unrealistically big in some places while unrealistically small in others.  (Somewhere Laura Croft is screaming, “But they’re real, I swear!”)

5.      Mine has pretty blue eyes and she’s hot. 

That's pretty much 100% the reasons why I love my FemSheps. (Even the point 5 is dead on. )

Pararenaggedon

The ME1 scars = cool. 
The ME2 scars = WTF. 

I dearly loved KOTOR and in the Star Wars universe going dark will change you.  Why this also happens in ME2, I have no idea.  I don’t remember Saren getting any scars.  I like the idea of Shep having a scar, and I understand that the renegade scar was BW, again, wanting to have its cake and eat it too.  Even though it makes no sense I was willing to play along, that is until no one noticed.  Imagine Dark femShep walking up to Kelly w/ tree bark for a face and red glowing eyes.  She’d ****** in her pants. 

Kelly: What are you?!
Shepard: Oh this? (points to face).  I, uh … cut myself shaving.  And the eyes are contacts.  Cool, isn’t it.
Kelly: I-if you say so, Commander.
Shepard: You don’t believe me?  I feel you lack of faith disturbing, Kelly.
Kelly: W-what?
Shepard: Nothing.  Just messing with ya.  Carry on.

I liked the scars on ME1. They cave her character credibility, she's veteran soldier after all and she's been on some tough places.. Even tho I have Shepards with no scars, but they just have them on places we don't see.
Scars on ME2 were cool at start and it was nice that they healed while you played. And then you get stupid mail telling that your good actions are healing them. WTF. Not nice way to wake up from the ME verse and drop in SW verse. As sake of seeing what happends when you go all the way to renegade I did that, but when I got there I just used the surgery machine to get rid of the scars and now I just do it when ever it's possible.
As for the ME1 scars to ME2. Can't really see that happening or even being possible with all the rebuilding going on in Lazarus project there's no way they stop and recreate scars. So I never even expected them or tried to find on ME2 char creation screen.

sagequeen wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

And if I can digress a bit, something in her character changed after LotSB.  She became hopeful. 

okay, snipping like mad on your awesome wall o' text: YES.

and
you said a future with her blueberry - i will say that i found it
hopeful even without doing a liara romance OR being great friends with
her. until that moment, i saw liara as this person my shep had
inadvertantly hurt and always misunderstood - then suddenly, this person
is back, being a friend, and there is this sense of hope and something
to look forward too - an ally that isn't bought with Cerberus
bloodmoney. (okay, there are some who weren't before the mission - tali,
garrus, but you know what i mean). 

i found LotSB to be like this massive infusion of hope into the ME2 darkness. i LOVE that dlc.

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@F1r3storm

Awesome pics. Cat harbinger made me laugh and very good and true point on reapers. They are not invincible or why would they've always done everything in secret. Big Sissies.
My FemSheps say Bring it!

Modifié par Vralenalien, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:29 .

[lastpatriot]

Oh... almost forgot but I got another "decent" shot of Rayne Shepard. I just kind of like the look on her face when she comes back to see the new Normandy

Modifié par lastpatriot, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:39 .

[Jagged Orchid]

@JamieCOTC

I think you are spot on there with that post.  I never knew about the whole Jacob dialogue. It's not enough for me to attempt a Jacob relationship. That's what youtube is for, right? I could have seen my FemShep confiding more with Garrus about her death, but then again, in my head she did.

Also, you make a good point in regards to the dialogue wheel. I'd like to see more emotion based options on that wheel. That way it is player initiated. If you want your Shep to show emotion, the option is there.

Also, just had to say I loved your little dialogue sprinkled throughout the post. Feel free to post more at any time

f1r3storm wrote...

I'm also wondering if and how Dark
Energy and the weapon that disabled the Reaper around Mnemosyne might
play out. Especially Dark Energy was mentioned more than once in ME2,
while the latter might be a good basis to develop weapons to fight the
reapers more effectively.

I have a feeling Dark Energy is going to play a pretty large role in the next game. I know it was referenced at least 3 times that I can remember in ME2. I'm interested to see how that is going to play out.

Edit:

@lastpatriot

beautiful shots. I feel like the lighting is sometimes hit or miss. Definitely turned out great there.

Modifié par Valagil, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:45 .

[Sable Phoenix]

Re: numbers beating the reapers, let's consider the Battle of the Citadel.  That was one Reaper.  Yes, the geth fleet helped, but even so, that battle cost, if I remember correctly, twenty turian and eight human cruisers, unknown numbers of frigates and fighters, plus, depending on Shepard's actions, the Destiny Ascension, the largest and most powerful ship in known space.  Almost all the Alliance vessels were personally destroyed by Sovereign when it lit up those molten-metal particle beams.  This gives us approximately a twenty-eight to one ratio necessary to take on the Reapers and win, and that's with top of the line warships, not refitted cargo vessels like the quarians employ.  Sovereign claimed that the Reaper fleet would "darken the skies of every world".

Somehow, I doubt superior numbers are going to make a significant difference.  That's why I don't get it when people say they want to see space combat in the third installment.  It's not possible to beat the Reapers in a stand-up fight.  It will take investigation, ingenuity and a lot of luck.

The dark energy tie-in is obvious in ME2.  I think that Shepard's machine-ness will be a less obvious but even more critical one.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:44 .