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[Chignon]

Chugster, I like the original hair but the modded eyes. (;

[Jade Elf]

The blue does look good, Chugster, though I prefer the original "natural" look. But that's just me.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Well, as a general note brought to mind by the "chestplate discussion", keep in mind that calling for FemShep to be more "feminine", when filtered through EA's Holywood mindset, could end up with giggling, boobage, and combat high-heels in ME3. Be careful what you wish for.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 10 octobre 2010 - 03:38 .

[Vralenalien]

Chugster wrote...

ok i need your opinion, ive just imported Sara into ME2 and i need to know which you like better between original and modded:
Original...unmodded...though i may darken her hair a bit

modded hair colour and TIM eyes...some slight side effect from project Lazarus

I like her on original eyes, but the modded hair color is cool. So I would mix them. Keep the eyes and mod the hair. Then again I've never been big fan of the eye model TIM has.

[Chugster]

hmm now im not sure, here it is with darker hair and normal eyes


i think this is the best look

Modifié par Chugster, 10 octobre 2010 - 03:42 .

[Vralenalien]

That darker black hair is even better than the blue hair and yes I think that is best of those.

Modifié par Vralenalien, 10 octobre 2010 - 03:45 .

[adneate]

sagequeen wrote...
also, re: the bewbage, i think what bothered me more was the inconsistency of size that N7 armor gave.

I think that's in part due to the design of Shepard's N7 armour, it's totally different from how ME1 did armour. ME1 armour was all one piece (more or less) with different materials in the suit it was only a matter of thickness between the varous grades of armour. In ME2 the armour is now made of two major parts there is the undersuit, that black rubbery weaved material, and the cermaic plates that look like they are coated in carbon fiber. If you could see Shepard in just the undersuit it would probably look a lot like the ME1 light armour, the reason why she looks bigger is that she then has these molded ceramic plates overtop of certain areas that still follow the shape of the undersuit but since they are so much thicker they make everything look bulky. It's not a bad way to do an armour system when you think about it.

[Iwakura-Lain]

Chugster wrote...

hmm now im not sure, here it is with darker hair and normal eyes


i think this is the best look

+1

This one looks the best, IMHO.

[sagefic]

@ chug - love the blue glow.

@ broy - i actually meant the time between games - how long shep has been out looking for geth before the normandy goes down. the wiki states it is 1 month. however, in looking further, i found that is only because 1 month after the citadel, shep is set to look for geth. it is up to interp how long she's been out there looking. so i'm okay. and i agree, about 6 mo. to finish the suicide mission for kyrie. i do every blinkin' quest i'm given because i'm OCD like that.

oh, and when I want femshep more "Feminine" i mean:



badass, but a LADY

what was it m. thatcher once said, "If you have to prove you're powerful or a lady, you probably aren't either" - that's kind of how i think of femshep - both in spades, and doesn't have to prove it

edit: it's funny to me that kyrie ended up looking a lot like a blonde diana rigg. unintentional, but there are a lot of similarities

Modifié par sagequeen, 10 octobre 2010 - 04:08 .

[Sable Phoenix]

sagequeen wrote...

@ broy - i actually meant the time between games - how long shep has been out looking for geth before the normandy goes down. the wiki states it is 1 month. however, in looking further, i found that is only because 1 month after the citadel, shep is set to look for geth. it is up to interp how long she's been out there looking. so i'm okay. and i agree, about 6 mo. to finish the suicide mission for kyrie. i do every blinkin' quest i'm given because i'm OCD like that.

oh, and when I want femshep more "Feminine" i mean:

badass, but a LADY

what was it m. thatcher once said, "If you have to prove you're powerful or a lady, you probably aren't either" - that's kind of how i think of femshep - both in spades, and doesn't have to prove it

As far as the one month timeline, I base that on the opening text of the game if you saved the Council, which states in the opening line "One month after a devestating geth attack on the Citadel, the galactic community struggles to rebuild."  Then it goes right into the cutscene of the Normandy getting destroyed.

And yeah, badass but a lady is the perfect description of femShep.  Or it should be.  I felt it more in ME1, because at least they gave her her own animations.  As for the other differences between males and females, I think even though they're written the same, while there are a few occasions where I grimace and think, "would a woman really say it that way?", Hale's performance and delivery gives femShep enough femininity and emotional depth that she stands apart from dudeShep as her own character.

[Fraevar]

So I was perusing DeviantArt and I found a piece that I thought I'd post given our discussion earlier in the week about how BioWare doesn't really make Shepard's death matter beyond gameplay redesign. Slightly NSFW because of an exposed breast.

http://fav.me/d2yjqmi

"Breathe Again" by Armesan

So happy to see death actually being...ugly, I suppose...

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:10 .

[Jade Elf]

While it's a great if slightly disturbing image, you might want to remove the link. The mods don't take too kindly to NSFW image links...

[Mox Ruuga]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

So I was perusing DeviantArt and I found a piece that I thought I'd post given our discussion earlier in the week about how BioWare doesn't really make Shepard's death matter beyond gameplay redesign. Slightly NSFW because of an exposed breast.

http://fav.me/d2yjqmi

"Breathe Again" by Armesan

So happy to see death actually being...ugly, I suppose...

As it should be.

Good pic, could have been a bit "uglier" still, with exposed cybernetics and such.

I wonder what Shepard looked like when s/he woke up "too early" in the intro? Something like that, I'd wager...

[sagefic]

i've seen that - is cool.

so now i'm really wondering where i got this "it was three months" before the normandy went down. i just totally had that in my head.

[JamieCOTC]

@ Delerius_Jedi

Wow, cool find! Stirring and kind of creepy at the same time..

@ sagequeen

Couldn't agree more w/ the Diana Rigg comparison.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:19 .

[Fraevar]

I will post it in the group as well as the NSFW status of this piece is *very* subjective. It does not bother me in the slightest, but I understand that someone else might take a different view. But yeah, like ya'll are saying, this is probably how Shepard looked like when she woke up that one time when she wasn't supposed to.



As for the Lady comments, I have to say that I hope BioWare walks that line very carefully. In this respect I can't help but think marketing ignoring femShep is a blessing in disguise because when you look at what the marketing department at Eidos did to Lara Croft (who was actually supposed to be a beautiful, intelligent, capable heroine according to her creator, Toby Gard) when they made her a Maxim girl. If BioWare's marketing ever did any of that I swear there would be trouble.

[Sable Phoenix]

Yeah, if anything I'd say it's NSFW because of the horror aspect, rather than the nudity aspect. That image is... kind of disturbing.  Kicks you right in the gut.

Probably pretty accurate though.  I would've like to see more cybernetics visible, really drive home the whole synthetic nature of newShep.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:37 .

[Fraevar]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Yeah, if anything I'd say it's NSFW because of the horror aspect, rather than the nudity aspect. That image is... kind of disturbing.  Kicks you right in the gut.

Probably pretty accurate though.  I would've like to see more cybernetics visible, really drive home the whole synthetic nature of newShep.

It's the eyes that really get me. They really hammer home the point that hey - the femShep we all knew? She is pretty much undead now. A very well evolved, life-like undead. But still undead due to cybernetics. I would love to see artists and writers take on a scene where Shepard comes across some old logs from the Lazerus project facility and actually sees what they're doing to her. I imagine that would be a truly horrifying moment for her.

[Captain Crash]

Yep defo nsfw.   Very good though if quite disturbing 


Probably needs more tubes going in and out of her, but that would probably become too cliché 

Modifié par Captain Crash, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:48 .

[Sable Phoenix]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Yeah, if anything I'd say it's NSFW because of the horror aspect, rather than the nudity aspect. That image is... kind of disturbing.  Kicks you right in the gut.

Probably pretty accurate though.  I would've like to see more cybernetics visible, really drive home the whole synthetic nature of newShep.

It's the eyes that really get me. They really hammer home the point that hey - the femShep we all knew? She is pretty much undead now. A very well evolved, life-like undead. But still undead due to cybernetics. I would love to see artists and writers take on a scene where Shepard comes across some old logs from the Lazerus project facility and actually sees what they're doing to her. I imagine that would be a truly horrifying moment for her.

Or still actually dead, and the cyberzombie walking around is just a hyperadvanced organic-based AI.    We already discussed that though.

Can you imagine if one of the Shadow Broker's dossiers was on the Lazarus Project?  Ho-lee crap.  I think seeing herself as a decompressed, frozen, smashed corpse would break even Shepard.

Do you guys think femShep would respond any differently to that sight than dudeShep?

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:51 .

[Mox Ruuga]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

It's the eyes that really get me. They really hammer home the point that hey - the femShep we all knew? She is pretty much undead now. A very well evolved, life-like undead. But still undead due to cybernetics. I would love to see artists and writers take on a scene where Shepard comes across some old logs from the Lazerus project facility and actually sees what they're doing to her. I imagine that would be a truly horrifying moment for her.

...

Great idea!

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing something like that for either ME3 or the VS DLC. Shep and LI of choice coming across such a vid log and seeing it. They wouldn't need to show us anything, just give audio (Miranda and Wilson doing the "autopsy" sort of doctor chatter) and show us the wordless reactions of both Shep (most likely stoic) and the LI (here, it would depend, but more emotion in nearly all cases than Shep him/herself). (Would make sense, considering how proud Bioware was about the wordless reactions of post Eden Prime Kaidan and Ash to Shepard's words, either reassuring or accusatory. Give us more of that!)

Then, one of those "boring" () character building moments, where Shep and said LI discuss Shep's present Cyborg Zombie status. Or not, as I'd imagine they'll give us an option to say "let's talk about this another time" for the stoics.

Hell, I do hope the whole Lazarus thing isn't just forgotten in ME3! Dying and being resurrected should be a huge thing...

[Fraevar]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Can you imagine if one of the Shadow Broker's dossiers was on the Lazarus Project?  Ho-lee crap.  I think seeing herself as a decompressed, frozen, smashed corpse would break even Shepard.

Do you guys think femShep would respond any differently to that sight than dudeShep?

I will be honest and say I was almost hoping for that, since we already get video recordings of Miranda and Jacob aboard the station. I agree that finally seeing death would probably make Shepard stop for a minute.

As for whether or not femShep would respond differently? I would think so, but not for any deeper reason asides from BioWare not wanting their male badass hero ruined for all the kids who just want moAr shootingz!!111!
It does also mandate that they shift some design around and specifically start designing femShep's behavior more around what we, her actual fans appreciate, as opposed to the elusive "mass market". That takes money, money I am not at all sure EA would be willing to put up, but with the recent publicity surrounding femShep in the press, maybe we would have a chance. I think she would just go speechless, personally. Just go blank, sit down on the sofa/chair/whatever and be silent for a bit. And then she would completely trash the room, either with biotics or her fists. After that - yeah I think she would settle down, probably tear off her shirt and try tracing the lines of the scars (supposing there's still some on her body, here) trying to understand how this can not be her when it feels like it.

[Sable Phoenix]

More of the Travelogue of Shepard!

Jessica makes her way out of the medbay labs and finally runs across someone who has a gun that is not shooting at her.


"Moving to cover!"

Naturally he's pinned down by fire from these robot things, and naturally she decides to join him.


"Now we're both stuck here.  Maybe this wasn't the brightest idea..."

He seems more surprised to see her than she is to be seen.  She's a bit frustrated that she has no clue what's going on.


"Ever since I woke up someone has been telling me where to go and what to do, I need answers."

Luckily the mechs aren't that big of a challenge, and she gets her chance to play Twenty Questions.  She doesn't like what she hears.


"Two years?  Dead?  What?"

Eventually they run across one more guy who's not shooting at them... yet.


"Well you're all strangers to me."

And she gets annoyed yet again at the argument they seem insistent on having right here.


"We can figure out who shot who later, right now I want to get to a shuttle."

More to come eventually.  Before that, though, a bit of a preview of Jessica's regenerating hairstyle as the game progresses...

When she was in the gangs, Jessica was often used to spot marks becaues of her natural ability to read people.  She can pick out a murdering bastard like Hock a mile away.  She dealt with way too many of those in her youth and she despises them.

(... and holy crap is femShep hot in that dress...)


"I've heard a lot about you, Mr. Hock.  It's a... pleasure."

By the time she gets to Illium, thanks to the regeneration booster in medbay and some silica gel given her by Dr. Chakwas, her hair's nearly at the length it was before she died, if still a bit on the thin side.


"Rachni say what?"

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 10 octobre 2010 - 07:15 .

[Chignon]

Delerius_Jedi wrote...

So I was perusing DeviantArt and I found a piece that I thought I'd post given our discussion earlier in the week about how BioWare doesn't really make Shepard's death matter beyond gameplay redesign. Slightly NSFW because of an exposed breast.

http://fav.me/d2yjqmi

"Breathe Again" by Armesan

So happy to see death actually being...ugly, I suppose...

Fanart like this makes me even more baffled as to how and why Bioware could think it was a good idea to not let Shepard have the opportunity to reflect on her death and resurrection at all.

[Fraevar]

Chignon wrote...

Fanart like this makes me even more baffled as to how and why Bioware could think it was a good idea to not let Shepard have the opportunity to reflect on her death and resurrection at all.

Because the "80% who play male Shepard" don't want that, according to all the marketing research they do based on what people who play Halo and Gears of War like.

And, for the millionth time, that does not gel with BioWare's traditional strengths. I think it was Yahtzee over at The Escapist who said that these days, BioWare doesn't get credit for good writing. That is true, but by the same token they get a lot more demerits when they do what those other studios do, like glossing over a major character element in the name of rebooting their gamedesign. We expect them to be better narrators than Epic or Bungie. And with ME2, they completely failed with regards to the protagonist.

/rant.

Sable Phoenix wrote...

(... and holy crap is femShep hot in that dress...)


"I've heard a lot about you, Mr. Hock.  It's a... pleasure."

She is, isn't she? She knows how to work dem legs

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 10 octobre 2010 - 07:25 .