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[Yana Montana]

Ciryx wrote...

My Kate, "Insanity Wh!ore" as Yana called her and Adept.

Stunning!

And yay for smiling FemShepards!

[adneate]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
I may be biased due to the fact that ryn is a close friend of mine, but I think that Kathryn Shepard possesses a considerable amount of warmth to her face. She also appears to be very friendly, and quite happy. Probably due to the fact that she is perpetually smiling! But yeah, I think that Kathryn's face is certainly the warmest, IMO.

I second that Ryn's Shep is like the most friendly looking character I've seen she looks like a Paragon, I certainly can't see some of those nasty Renegade lines come out of someone who looks so happy. The one I made on the other hand . . .



Not so nice and not so happy looking.

[Yana Montana]

Ciryx wrote...

I really gonna try out a blond Shep with hazel Eyes next. Thats one of the other combinations thats seen very rarely but looks gorgous. Well, brown eyes in generell are totally underestimated.

Alex!!!



I am a total sucker for dark eyes.

[Sable Phoenix]

So I just went through Lair of the Shadow Broker last night.  Twice, actually, at least up until the actual fight with the Shadow Broker himself, because I missed half of the lightning-fast interrupts the first time through (and the game also kept freezing, no clue why… second time through it didn’t, yay).  Anyway…

Holy cow.

Not only does the gameplay feature the longest and most relentless fights and most difficult bosses outside of Kasumi's loyalty mission, not only do you get to visit the single coolest location/setpiece they've created so far (crawling around on the hull of the Shadow Broker's storm-sailer is epic), but I had to fight not to tear up at the end with Hale’s heartbreaking whisper of “Come back soon, Liara.”  I can feel my throat tightening a little right now just thinking about it.  The emotional content of this addon blew away anything from the entire two games previously.

Three moments stand out from it as being perfect fits for Jessica.  First was “I’m fine, by the way, thanks for asking,” which is amazing since it involves no choice on the player’s part, but was exactly what Jessica would say in that situation.  The second was “Back there you took off after Vasir without giving me a backwards glance,” which perfectly fit the pain and frustration this obsessed, violent version of Liara was causing Jessica.  And the third, which felt like it was written specifically for Jessica herself, was the “I’m frustrated” option.  When the actual dialogue started with the line, “Honestly?  I’m tired, Liara,” I just about came out of my chair saying “YES! Yes, that’s it exactly!”  What a perfect fit.  I have to go through and find out what the other dialogue options say, but I doubt they are better fitted to Jessica.

I do have a couple gripes.   Well not gripes, but things where I feel they could do better.  First is the linearity; you really can only play one type of character through the entire DLC; in the conversations where you actually get a dialogue wheel, you usually get only two dialogue choices, both on the right side (i.e., advance the conversation to the next phase), and that’s it.  I lucked out that the version of femShep BioWare decided should manifest here fits Jessica pretty darn close, but it would’ve been nice to have more options that cover differing personalities.  You can really only be a Paragon when it comes to this DLC, except for that weird section where Vasir starts accusing you and you can only tacitly agree with her and say you don’t care, or defend Cerberus.  Frankly, that was the main section where the lack of choice bugged me the most.  Surely they could’ve given us a Paragon/Renegade section of the wheel too; Jessica would never defend Cerberus, but she would defend herself.

The second was the kiss scene.  “Okay… okay…”  ‘Okay.”  That was incredibly heartwarming… I melted a little.  But you only have the choice of interrupting and kissing Liara, or letting her shut you down.  I would have preferred dialogue choices to get to a similar outcome.  Miss the interrupt, but have a full five-option wheel including Paragon/Renegade choices.  Because, quite frankly, as fantastic as the kiss was, that’s not what Jessica would do.  I wish they’d had a Renegade option (or at least the bottom of the right side of the wheel) that went something like, “Dammit, Liara, stop pushing me away!  I thought I could count on you!  Don’t you realize that you’re… in this whole damn galaxy, you’re the only thing I have left?”  It would be the one time where she’d let herself be vulnerable and just pour her heart out to Liara, and Jessica’s always been more given to words than actions when it comes to personal relationships.

Still, despite the missed opportunities, the whole DLC was amazing and finally gave some much needed humanity to ME2’s Shepard.  It’s like the locker scene from ME1, spread out over 2 hours.  I also love the way it expands the universe lore with the dossiers and videos, and the gameplay additions that can get you extra credits and point you to extra resources as well.  They added a lot more with the DLC than just the core mission and Liara’s visit, which is great.  Fantastic stuff all around.

[Jane Shepard]

Mikaela.

[NamiraWilhelm]

Yana Montana wrote...

Alex!!!



I am a total sucker for dark eyes.

Wow, shes stunning too! I wouldn't mind

My Sheps are always brunette after myself, but she really is lovely.

[Ciryx]

Jane Shepard wrote...

Mikaela.

*glomps* ok miss shepard. Gotta do my homework next time, i promise!
Anything, just stop frowning at me like this! 

[Jane Shepard]

Yeah, she believes you

Modifié par Jane Shepard, 12 octobre 2010 - 05:01 .

[Sable Phoenix]

Yana Montana wrote...

Ciryx wrote...

I really gonna try out a blond Shep with hazel Eyes next. Thats one of the other combinations thats seen very rarely but looks gorgous. Well, brown eyes in generell are totally underestimated.

Alex!!!



I am a total sucker for dark eyes.

Holy cow, she is gorgeous!  I love that strong jawline.

[adneate]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
It's quite telling that, regardless of romance, Shepard will always sadly ask Liara to come back soon.

To me that kinda confims that Cerberus in ME2 made a concerted effort to isolate Shepard from her former friends and allies in order to manipulate her into both working for them and handing over the Collector Base. I know when I played through ME2 I felt (and by extension Shepard) incredibly isolated and alone, nobody wanted to talk to me and often times people weren't even happy to see that Shepard was alive. I suppose that was why when I got to Illium and Liara wasn't as warm as I wanted her to be It didn't bother me, she was at least happy to see I was alive which was more than I could say for Kaiden on Horizon who called me a traitor. LotSB does feel like the proper ending for ME2 as strange as that sounds, that Shepard finally got back something from ME1 and someone who sees her as a person not just a symbol or object to be used.

Modifié par adneate, 12 octobre 2010 - 05:19 .

[BTG_01]

Shepard: I used to have a huge scar right here, but just one trip to the med bay and it was completely healed! It's amazing how easily they can repair facial scarring!

Garrus: ...

Modifié par BTG_01, 12 octobre 2010 - 05:27 .

[sagefic]

@ Mr.Vakarian: your reasoning for colonist/war hero is almost exactly mine. i like all backgrounds, but for kyrie, i chose and stuck with that. mainly, i wanted her to have had siblings. and i didn't want the lame email from mom in me2 (<---seriously? that was a fail, imo. sole survivor and spacer backgrounds needed more, even if the others got ignored)

@ sable: totally with you on the 3 "YAY!" moments in LotSB

re: pretty sheps - I think part of my issue with "pretty" sheps is that there is a serious overlap on "attractive" vs. made-up.

I saw some folks raving about this "hot" shepard (one went so far as to lament "Why don't female gamers actually look like this?" - roll eyes), but in looking at her, that shep was attractive - face 7 mafia, tanned, blonde, but mostly she was in the kasumi dress and HEAVILY made up.

that's the thing - a lot of the "hot" sheps are just wearing heavy makeup or modded miranda outfits to highlight their attractions. it's not that the underlying face is necessarily bad - some really are lovely. but they are being decked out to look sexy. again, that's not bad if that's how you want to play it, but it makes me wonder if the appeal is the shep or her makeup and clothes.

i love the movie the interpreter because nicole kidman is lovely, but she looks like this slightly geeky woman. things like bond movies where you have denise richards as a nuclear physicist - it's like, even if a woman that hot WAS a nucelar physicist and she visited the gym every morning so as to have that body, she would NOT be wearing cut offs with her butt hanging out and a cropped tank in the middle east. so i must admit that i really like sheps that look attractive, but also look like they fit the part.

if your shep loves to dress up, that's fine. i just am sad when sheps that don't wear makeup or wear heavy armor get ignored or even made fun of because they're "ugly" - when in reality, the underlying face is great, they are just not being dolled up to look like a consort acolyte.

/end rant

[Yeled]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Pleased to hear that you enjoyed LotSB, Sable. Interestingly enough, the DLC's release provoked extensive discussion relating to Shepard's personality and relationships, and whether certain aspects of them were being canonised in LotSB. I think that canon dictates that Liara is, at the very least, Shepard's close friend and trusted ally. It's similar to the manner in which ME2 Garrus is Shepard's wingman and close friend. I may be biased due to the fact that I am a passionate Lisrs fan, but I like the fact that she seems to be a canonical close friend, and obviously a potential lover, for Shepard. I'm also wondering if Ashley or Kaidan will receive the same treatment in a hypothetical VS DLC, and whether this is indicative of just how close these characters will be to Shepard during the events of ME3.

It's quite telling that, regardless of romance, Shepard will always sadly ask Liara to come back soon. I don't mind the canonising of Shepard's character. If I have to sacrifice some variables and RP potential regarding Shepard's character in order to inject extra depth, then I do not mind.

I said this in another thread, but I thought it was relevant here and I think highly enough of myself that I have to share my thoughts with everyone...

I've been thinking about the loyalty missions in ME2 and how people point to them as examples of good character development (this is usually the argument used to counter the story-in-ME1-was-better argument) .  While many of them were very well written and enjoyable, I disagree that they were good development stories.  And its LotSB that
made me see where they failed in this regard.

See, in my opinion the biggest failing of ME2 was not its lack of good story.  Yes, its story arc was poor compared to other BioWare gems.  But where it truly failed from a story point of view was that it stopped being about its main character. 

ME1 is Shepard's story.   Sure, there is soveirgn and seren et al, but what truly sets ME1 apart from other games
is the emotional resonance of the story and the main character.  You grow attached to Shepard, and set backs feel like set backs to Shepard. The locker scene, for example.

ME2 is not Shepard's story.  Instead, its a series of mostly unrelated incidents in which Shepard takes part as an active observer.  Sure, she kicks ass and takes names, and has some great dialogue and the occassional decision to make.  But overall each part of the story is its own little isolated pocket in which you could remove Shep and replace her with any one else and it wouldn't really matter.  

Miranda needs Shep to save her sister.  Grunt needs to become a true krogan.  Tali needs to redeem her father.  All great little stories, but they have no bearing on Shepard or Shep's personal, emotional character. To add to that, the world really doesn't react to Shepard or her prediciment in a realistic way, making it feel even less about the main protagonist with whom the player is meant to identify.

Although LotSB is actually quite similar to the loyalty missions--its a side quest for Liara--Shepard and her relationship (I don't necessarily mean romance) with Liara is central to the mission.  In fact I'd go so far as
to say that rescuing Feron and killing the SB is only an excuse to explore the relationship between Shepard and one of her key allies/friends/lover from ME1.  Every interaction with Liara feels meaningful to the player because its personal to Shepard, unlike any of the loyalty missions.

LotSB actually helped me enjoy the entirety of ME2 more because finally I felt connected to the game in some way, which allowed me to feel connected to all the disparate elements of  the overall story.  It didn't fix everything, but it made me feel connected.  And that's why I play BioWare games.

Modifié par Yeled, 12 octobre 2010 - 05:27 .

[sagefic]

Yeled wrote...
See, in my opinion
the biggest failing of ME2 was not its lack of good story.  Yes, its
story arc was poor compared to other BioWare gems.  But where it truly
failed from a story point of view was that it stopped being about its
main character. 

This. You hit the proverbial nail on it's proverbial head.

[NamiraWilhelm]

Yeah, they clearly left most of the plot to the third, and just filled the second up with recruitment. I liked it, but more missions would have been appreciated. Maybe all the new DLC will make up for that in the end

[Vralenalien]

Yana Montana wrote...

Alex!!!



I am a total sucker for dark eyes.

She looks really lovely. All golden and warm. Awesome.

[Captain Crash]

sagequeen wrote...

Yeled wrote...
See, in my opinion
the biggest failing of ME2 was not its lack of good story.  Yes, its
story arc was poor compared to other BioWare gems.  But where it truly
failed from a story point of view was that it stopped being about its
main character. 

This. You hit the proverbial nail on it's proverbial head.

True, but honestly having to defeat a Giant Terminator errr...  I mean 'Baby Reaper' was just daft on so many levels.  Everything else comes second compared to that to me.  It still annoys me even now.


Notice how you never see any screenshots of femshep in that scene in this thread!! Everyone wishes it didnt happen!          

Modifié par Captain Crash, 12 octobre 2010 - 05:39 .

[BTG_01]

The presence of a strong villain is what I miss most from ME1. If there had been a villain with the presence of Saren in ME2, there would have been more of a sense of purpose and a more character-driven conflict. The fact that ME1 at its core was Shepard vs Saren, made the story more engaging and the resolution all the more satisfying.

[Iwakura-Lain]

Chugster wrote...

getting to know her new crew

May I say, that's an extremely artistic shot! She looks really fantastic here. Your Femshep is very expressive, really.

Modifié par Iwakura-Lain, 12 octobre 2010 - 06:02 .

[Iwakura-Lain]

Ciryx wrote...

My Kate, "Insanity Wh!ore" as Yana called her and Adept.

Another absolute masterpiece! Great lighting! Stunning.

[Cyansomnia]

 

Aislinn Shepard.
My Paragon Adept.  She's a Spacer and War Hero.  She also loves her some Garrus.