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[Iwakura-Lain]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I may be biased due to the fact that ryn is a close friend of mine, but I think that Kathryn Shepard possesses a considerable amount of warmth to her face. She also appears to be very friendly, and quite happy. Probably due to the fact that she is perpetually smiling! But yeah, I think that Kathryn's face is certainly the warmest, IMO.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's thoroughly impressed with ryn's creations. (Honestly, I was feeling a bit embarrassed saying it so many times). Renegade or Paragon, hers are simply the best.

[Iwakura-Lain]

sagequeen wrote...

that's the thing - a lot of the "hot" sheps are just wearing heavy makeup or modded miranda outfits to highlight their attractions. it's not that the underlying face is necessarily bad - some really are lovely. but they are being decked out to look sexy. again, that's not bad if that's how you want to play it, but it makes me wonder if the appeal is the shep or her makeup and clothes.

Interesting. Being a guy myself, I find the 'boob' outfits annoying, really. I want a believable Commander, not the next bimbette. Ever since the new Kestrel breast plates my Kira has been wearing those. It's a much more dignified look for her. And no offense to Miranda lovers, but she looks ridiculous, in my eyes, going into battle with what is essentially a glorified bra.

Modifié par Iwakura-Lain, 12 octobre 2010 - 06:28 .

[Mr.Vakarian]

sagequeen wrote...

@ Mr.Vakarian: your reasoning for colonist/war hero is almost exactly mine. i like all backgrounds, but for kyrie, i chose and stuck with that. mainly, i wanted her to have had siblings. and i didn't want the lame email from mom in me2 (<---seriously? that was a fail, imo. sole survivor and spacer backgrounds needed more, even if the others got ignored)

@ sable: totally with you on the 3 "YAY!" moments in LotSB

re: pretty sheps - I think part of my issue with "pretty" sheps is that there is a serious overlap on "attractive" vs. made-up.

I saw some folks raving about this "hot" shepard (one went so far as to lament "Why don't female gamers actually look like this?" - roll eyes), but in looking at her, that shep was attractive - face 7 mafia, tanned, blonde, but mostly she was in the kasumi dress and HEAVILY made up.

that's the thing - a lot of the "hot" sheps are just wearing heavy makeup or modded miranda outfits to highlight their attractions. it's not that the underlying face is necessarily bad - some really are lovely. but they are being decked out to look sexy. again, that's not bad if that's how you want to play it, but it makes me wonder if the appeal is the shep or her makeup and clothes.

i love the movie the interpreter because nicole kidman is lovely, but she looks like this slightly geeky woman. things like bond movies where you have denise richards as a nuclear physicist - it's like, even if a woman that hot WAS a nucelar physicist and she visited the gym every morning so as to have that body, she would NOT be wearing cut offs with her butt hanging out and a cropped tank in the middle east. so i must admit that i really like sheps that look attractive, but also look like they fit the part.

if your shep loves to dress up, that's fine. i just am sad when sheps that don't wear makeup or wear heavy armor get ignored or even made fun of because they're "ugly" - when in reality, the underlying face is great, they are just not being dolled up to look like a consort acolyte.

/end rant

Agreed Sage. The Spacer back story doesn't yeild much...nor does the Earthborn story for that matter. To me she would come off more like a brutal "thug" than a true hero which is why I like the Colonist background a bit more. As I said, It gives Shepardthe chance for a good and wholesome childhood and then to have it all torn away at a young age when she still has her "childhood innocence".

As for the "pretty Shepard's", being a straight guy...I like having a good lookin' character running around on screen, but what I like about her is that she is not stereotypically hot or trampy, her design in much more reserved and "down to earth" if you will. She has a more normal natual, wholesome and elegant beauty with a very "girl next door" look that is very refreshing.    just my $.02

Modifié par Mr.Vakarian, 12 octobre 2010 - 06:20 .

[Sable Phoenix]

adneate wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
It's quite telling that, regardless of romance, Shepard will always sadly ask Liara to come back soon.

To me that kinda confims that Cerberus in ME2 made a concerted effort to isolate Shepard from her former friends and allies in order to manipulate her into both working for them and handing over the Collector Base. I know when I played through ME2 I felt (and by extension Shepard) incredibly isolated and alone, nobody wanted to talk to me and often times people weren't even happy to see that Shepard was alive. I suppose that was why when I got to Illium and Liara wasn't as warm as I wanted her to be It didn't bother me, she was at least happy to see I was alive which was more than I could say for Kaiden on Horizon who called me a traitor. LotSB does feel like the proper ending for ME2 as strange as that sounds, that Shepard finally got back something from ME1 and someone who sees her as a person not just a symbol or object to be used.

This is exactly how I felt as well.  I tend to think that The Illusive Man was discomfitted that Archangel turned out to be Garrus; that was probably a little too much connection to the past for his tastes.  The limits he wanted on that were Joker and Chakwas, at least at first.  Feeding her Tali later on would keep her  Garrus probably represented a minor monkeywrench, just like he did to the Omega gangs.

... I really have a hard time not romancing Garrus in ME2.  For a long time, he's Shepard's only real friend from her past.  Joker and Chakwas didn't earn that status in ME1, although they do by the end of ME2, but Garrus always was her wingman.

[Cyansomnia]

As a female myself, I like my female Shepards to look pretty but not fake. Meaning I use minimal and more subtle makeup colors and avoid giving them ridiculous features. I try to accentuate their eye and hair colors. I also try to come up with interesting armor combinations, but keeps things coordinated.

I'll post a few more of my FemSheps, cause I'd really like to know what you guys think.  My adept kinda went to the end of the last page.  <_<

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 12 octobre 2010 - 06:20 .

[Sable Phoenix]

sagequeen wrote...

Yeled wrote...
See, in my opinion
the biggest failing of ME2 was not its lack of good story.  Yes, its
story arc was poor compared to other BioWare gems.  But where it truly
failed from a story point of view was that it stopped being about its
main character. 

This. You hit the proverbial nail on it's proverbial head.

Agreed a thousand times over.

And yet, ME2 involved me in a way ME1 didn't.  My heart was pounding through the entire suicide mission, because I cared about everyone, darn it all.  I was scared for them.

[Sable Phoenix]

Captain Crash wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Yeled wrote...
See, in my opinion
the biggest failing of ME2 was not its lack of good story.  Yes, its
story arc was poor compared to other BioWare gems.  But where it truly
failed from a story point of view was that it stopped being about its
main character. 

This. You hit the proverbial nail on it's proverbial head.

True, but honestly having to defeat a Giant Terminator errr...  I mean 'Baby Reaper' was just daft on so many levels.  Everything else comes second compared to that to me.  It still annoys me even now.


Notice how you never see any screenshots of femshep in that scene in this thread!! Everyone wishes it didnt happen!          

Not true!  I just haven't reached that point in my travelogue yet!

I must be the only one who didn't find the Reaper neonate "daft".  I thought it was horrific and made perfect sense.

[Cyansomnia]

Sable Phoenix wrote...
... I really have a hard time not romancing Garrus in ME2.  For a long time, he's Shepard's only real friend from her past.  Joker and Chakwas didn't earn that status in ME1, although they do by the end of ME2, but Garrus always was her wingman.

I feel the same way about Garrus, though I'm a huge sucker for Thane.  Garrus is like that good friend who will always be there, a person you can fall back on.  Even if I don't romance him with my character, we're always best friends.  

[Sable Phoenix]

Iwakura-Lain wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I may be biased due to the fact that ryn is a close friend of mine, but I think that Kathryn Shepard possesses a considerable amount of warmth to her face. She also appears to be very friendly, and quite happy. Probably due to the fact that she is perpetually smiling! But yeah, I think that Kathryn's face is certainly the warmest, IMO.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's thoroughly impressed with ryn's creations. (Honestly, I was feeling a bit embarrassed saying it so many times). Renegade or Paragon, hers are simply the best.

run makes great Sheps.  

Iwakura-Lain wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

that's the thing
- a lot of the "hot" sheps are just wearing heavy makeup or modded
miranda outfits to highlight their attractions. it's not that the
underlying face is necessarily bad - some really are lovely. but they
are being decked out to look sexy. again, that's not bad if that's how
you want to play it, but it makes me wonder if the appeal is the shep or
her makeup and clothes.

Interesting. Being a
guy myself, I find the 'boob' outfits annoying, really. I want a
believable Commander, not the next bimbette. Ever since the new Kestrel
brest plates. my Kira has been wearing those. It's a much more dignified
look for her. And no offense to Miranda lovers, but she looks
ridiculous, in my eyes, going into battle with what is essentially a
glorified bra.

Aislinn Trista wrote...

As a female myself, I like my
female Shepards to look pretty but not fake. Meaning I use minimal and
more subtle makeup colors and avoid giving them ridiculous features. I
try to accentuate their eye and hair colors. I also try to come up with
interesting armor combinations, but keeps things coordinated.

I'll
post a few more of my FemSheps, cause I'd really like to know what you
guys think.  My adept kinda went to the end of the last page.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

I always wear the Kestrel plate too.  I vastly preferred the ME1 armors.  How did Shepard go from a B/C cup to a D/E?  i definitely prefer the harder, battle-ready look to something that injects false sexuality into things.  "Pretty but not fake" is a perfect description.  The only makeup my Shep ever wears is eyeliner, and that's only because the edges of the eyes look really wierd if you don't.  Eyelashes are apparently not the Unreal Engine's strong suit.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 12 octobre 2010 - 06:33 .

[Jagged Orchid]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

adneate wrote...
To me that kinda confims that Cerberus in ME2 made a concerted effort to isolate Shepard from her former friends and allies in order to manipulate her into both working for them and handing over the Collector Base. I know when I played through ME2 I felt (and by extension Shepard) incredibly isolated and alone, nobody wanted to talk to me and often times people weren't even happy to see that Shepard was alive. I suppose that was why when I got to Illium and Liara wasn't as warm as I wanted her to be It didn't bother me, she was at least happy to see I was alive which was more than I could say for Kaiden on Horizon who called me a traitor. LotSB does feel like the proper ending for ME2 as strange as that sounds, that Shepard finally got back something from ME1 and someone who sees her as a person not just a symbol or object to be used.

Yeah, I'd agree with this. Certain lines of dialogue in the game serve as further confirmation of the belief that Shepard is intended to feel alone, unhappy and isolated during the events of ME2. When asking him about the good old days, Joker mentions that they're "stuck in a weird place". If Shepard has enjoyed a drink with Dr, Chakwas, Kasumi says that it must feel like "old friends are becoming a luxury". We've often complained about the fact that few characters in ME2 show genuine concern for Shepard's own wellbeing and welfare. Perhaps this was a conscious design choice on the writing team's part? LotSB allows Shepard to reconcile the friendship/romance with one of her closest friends or lover, and I don't think that it is a conincidence that this occurs in the first piece of "story bridging" DLC - preparing the narrative for ME3's story. This is due to the fact that I believe that I think that it is reasonable to assume that Shepard will not be alone and isolated in ME3, and that LotSB almost functions as the beginning of it's conclusion.

Thats a good point. I have to agree that I don't think Shep will be as isolated in the 3rd game. In fact, I'm tempted to go so far as to say she is going to need the strength of others in order to defeat the Reapers in the end. I'm not just talking about physical strength. I think this next time around, she is going to need friends. Look at her whole life. Regardless of background and service record, Shepard has pretty much been on her own. She's never really had anyone to rely on in the past. Then in ME1, she potentially starts forming friendships, maybe even a relationship. She finally has something she's never really had before. Then comes ME2 and all of that is taken away from her. She's killed, then forced to work for an organization she wants nothing to do with etc. Her friends have abandoned her, and he lover wants nothing to do with her. She's pretty much lost everything. Come the 3rd game, I think she'll get some of that stability back.

[Sable Phoenix]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

 

Aislinn Shepard.
My Paragon Adept.  She's a Spacer and War Hero.  She also loves her some Garrus.  

She's incredibly pretty.  I like the eyes!  Most people do not use those eyes.  They make her look a little soulful.

[Jagged Orchid]

Iwakura-Lain wrote...
Interesting. Being a guy myself, I find
the 'boob' outfits annoying, really. I want a believable Commander, not
the next bimbette. Ever since the new Kestrel breast plates my Kira has
been wearing those. It's a much more dignified look for her. And no
offense to Miranda lovers, but she looks ridiculous, in my eyes, going
into battle with what is essentially a glorified bra.

The Kestrel armor is by far my favorite armor in the game. I rarely ever use anything else.
As far as Shepard's physical appearance goes... I like my Shepard to be attractive. She has more of a subtle beauty though. She's not what I would consider drop dead gorgeous, but she is attractive and to some extent it works to her advantage.

Sable Phoenix wrote...
The only makeup my Shep ever wears is eyeliner, and that's only because the edges of the eyes look really wierd if you don't.  Eyelashes are apparently not the Unreal Engine's strong suit.

If I could pull it off, my Shep would go without makeup... Like you said, it just doesn't work. She looks almost unnatural without the eyeliner/macera thing going on. If I were constantly going in to battle, the last thing on my mind would be makeup. Call me crazy.

Actually one thing I really did like about Sheps resurection, is her lack of makeup when she first wakes up. At least I can pull one positive out of that whole mess.

[sagefic]

BTG_01 wrote...

The presence of a strong villain is what I miss most from ME1. If there had been a villain with the presence of Saren in ME2, there would have been more of a sense of purpose and a more character-driven conflict. The fact that ME1 at its core was Shepard vs Saren, made the story more engaging and the resolution all the more satisfying.

For me it was that tIM felt like the villain and I didn't get the option to take him out.  this whole evil mission where the collectors are interchangable pawns, the reaper baby is basically something to blow up, not a villian, and the true mastermind continues to pull strings. bah.

Yes, i know some people think he's their BFF, but Kyrie loathes the man. "Liara can't be trusted. Sorry, I don't know where Kaidan is" indeed. Bastard. 

anyhoo.

i wasn't saying i don't like a good looking shep. i just like sheps that look like they going to battle, not a runway show. i choose very light makeup for my sheps (though they do wear some. i could never get to like the no makeup look). i tend to tone it down with the scalar hacks in ME2.

@ aislinn - love that shep. i like those eyes! they get used rarely - they really work best with face shape 7 and redheads, i think. dunno why redheads, but yeah. very nice!

Modifié par sagequeen, 12 octobre 2010 - 06:51 .

[Chignon]

Mr.Vakarian wrote...

Agreed Sage. The Spacer back story doesn't yeild much...nor does the Earthborn story for that matter. To me she would come off more like a brutal "thug" than a true hero which is why I like the Colonist background a bit more. As I said, It gives Shepardthe chance for a good and wholesome childhood and then to have it all torn away at a young age when she still has her "childhood innocence".

*snip*

Sorry, but what? I really don't understand your reasoning there, at all.

[ADLegend21]

So I've narrowed down the next chapter of ME:PC to these:

Joker, Hackett, EDI, and Miranda 2. vote!

[ELE08]

Chignon wrote...

Mr.Vakarian wrote...

Agreed Sage. The Spacer back story doesn't yeild much...nor does the Earthborn story for that matter. To me she would come off more like a brutal "thug" than a true hero which is why I like the Colonist background a bit more. As I said, It gives Shepardthe chance for a good and wholesome childhood and then to have it all torn away at a young age when she still has her "childhood innocence".

*snip*

Sorry, but what? I really don't understand your reasoning there, at all.

2nded.  Earthborn is my favorite background.  It's so vague you can pretty much write your own story.  Was she just an unlucky orphan with a good heart that survived and pulled herself out of the gutter to become an Alliance hero, or did she embrace gang life and have a morally questionable background ultimately enlisting for essentially selfish reasons.  It's fan fic waiting to happen.  I thought colonist was a little cliche.  See doomed hometown.  Not that I don't like it for it's dramatic possibilities.

[ELE08]

ADLegend21 wrote...

So I've narrowed down the next chapter of ME:PC to these:
Joker, Hackett, EDI, and Miranda 2. vote!

EDI.  Just because I have no idea how that would even work.  Go!

[Ciryx]

I just had a chance to uglyfy Alex Shepard.
I take no credit, all credit to yana for that femshep build. I just thought shes gorgous and i wanted to post her.

Modifié par Ciryx, 12 octobre 2010 - 07:05 .

[sagefic]

ADLegend21 wrote...

So I've narrowed down the next chapter of ME:PC to these:
Joker, Hackett, EDI, and Miranda 2. vote!

hackett

is he embodied, or is this via the comm?

[Jane Shepard]

Ciryx wrote...

I just had a chance to uglyfy Alex Shepard.
I take no credit, all credit to yana for that femshep build. I just thought shes gorgous and i wanted to post her.

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Wow! That's beautiful!!!

Modifié par Jane Shepard, 12 octobre 2010 - 07:09 .

[Chignon]

ELE08 wrote...

Chignon wrote...

Mr.Vakarian wrote...

Agreed Sage. The Spacer back story doesn't yeild much...nor does the Earthborn story for that matter. To me she would come off more like a brutal "thug" than a true hero which is why I like the Colonist background a bit more. As I said, It gives Shepardthe chance for a good and wholesome childhood and then to have it all torn away at a young age when she still has her "childhood innocence".

*snip*

Sorry, but what? I really don't understand your reasoning there, at all.

2nded.  Earthborn is my favorite background.  It's so vague you can pretty much write your own story.  Was she just an unlucky orphan with a good heart that survived and pulled herself out of the gutter to become an Alliance hero, or did she embrace gang life and have a morally questionable background ultimately enlisting for essentially selfish reasons.  It's fan fic waiting to happen.  I thought colonist was a little cliche.  See doomed hometown.  Not that I don't like it for it's dramatic possibilities.

Exactly, ELE. It is my favourite, too.

It largely depends on how you roleplay your Shepard. The backgrounds are all so vague you can practically do what you want with them. And even Finch just mentions that she ran with the gang, but never explicitly states just what her role was.

I play Noah as an "unlucky orphan" as you put it. For her enlisting with the Alliance was like she really hit the jackpot.

Modifié par Chignon, 12 octobre 2010 - 07:11 .

[Vralenalien]

Sable Phoenix wrote...

Not true!  I just haven't reached that point in my travelogue yet!

I must be the only one who didn't find the Reaper neonate "daft".  I thought it was horrific and made perfect sense.

No, you're not the only one. I also thought it made sense and seeing it really made me want to blow that freaking base to hell and all the collectors with it. As if I needed any more reasons to do it.

So there's 2 of us who think it made sense.