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[OrbitalWings]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Especially considering the fact that one of the reasons a certain character, namely Thane, was created was to appeal to heterosexual female gamers. Okay, Thane is featured heavily in marketing and is one of the game's poster characters, alongside Miranda, but if female players see the hot male alien standing next to your typical gruff, male space marine, would that not send out a conflicting and confusing message? If they're not aware of FemShep's existence, then Thane's appearance in marketing might not be enough to attract the target audience.

Good point.

With the impression that Sheploo is all you can play as - something a LOT of people have agreed with - it seems odd using Thane in the marketing. Perhaps they were trying to get the female gamers in, but they're unlikely to think of him as a romantic character if Sheploo is continually shoved down their throats.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...


Especially considering the fact that one of the reasons a certain character, namely Thane, was created was to appeal to heterosexual female gamers. Okay, Thane is featured heavily in marketing and is one of the game's poster characters, alongside Miranda, but if female players see the hot male alien standing next to your typical gruff, male space marine, would that not send out a conflicting and confusing message? If they're not aware of FemShep's existence, then Thane's appearance in marketing might not be enough to attract the target audience.

Good point about the LIs...they didn't focus on his potential romance with FemShep at all, though he was probably the main guy for ME2.

We know from Jack's reveal that she would be an option...there was screens and vids of Miranda mounting Shep, so we knew she would be one.

I don't think the devs even confirmed Thane to be an option up until a week before the game's release.

[JamieCOTC]

rynluna wrote...


http://social.biowar...52255/2#3052649

No wonder I couldn't find it in the ME forums.  It was in the DS forums.  D'oh!  Thanks, Ryn. 

[didiware]

mashavasilec wrote...

I'm actually glad that femshep "sex scenes" weren't featured in promo. 'Cause Jack's renegade romance and Miranda's engine room scene would quickly cheapen both romances for me. At least Jack has got her wonderful paragon romance

God, yes. I haven't finished my first maleshep playthrogh but I romanced Jack. Miranda and the engine room wasn't that tempting... Kind of like a "...but the priiiiizeee" feeling...

[OrbitalWings]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Actually, is it that much of a bad thing that FemShep's romances were not featured in marketing? For DudeShep, Miranda was clearly featured as an LI and an excerpt of her sex scene was shown. The FemShep equivalent that would have been used?

the priiize

Eeeek!

OHGODNO

Gotta say - they were a bit odd with the romances.

MaleShep - 2 human women and a likely human-looking alien

FemShep - 2 aliens, one exoskeleton-y and one lizard-y, and one human who FemShep throws herself at

[TMA LIVE]

I think Fem Shep got the worst of the romances. With Jacob, it starts alright, but then turns horrible once you get serious with him. Garrus is funny, but the real romance doesn't start till after the game, and he has less screen time then the others. Thane is the best one, but I think Kaidan is still better (despite his bad hairstyle). Either way, I still think the ME1 FEM romances were better then the ME2 FEM romances.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 21 juillet 2010 - 09:12 .

[NICKjnp]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, even so, ME still sells to females even though they strictly market the male version.  ME1 did more for marketing FemShep than ME2 did.  Maybe they didn't feel the need to hook female gamers in ME2 as they already did so with ME1?

Especially considering the fact that one of the reasons a certain character, namely Thane, was created was to appeal to heterosexual female gamers. Okay, Thane is featured heavily in marketing and is one of the game's poster characters, alongside Miranda, but if female players see the hot male alien standing next to your typical gruff, male space marine, would that not send out a conflicting and confusing message? If they're not aware of FemShep's existence, then Thane's appearance in marketing might not be enough to attract the target audience.

Hahahahaha!  You know... what is Thane's job in the game?  He is the only character that doesn't have a role in the suicide mission.  Legion, Tali and Kasumi are all vent specialists.  Jack and Samara are biotic bubble specialists.  Miranda, Garrus and Jacob are team leaders.  Grunt, Garrus and Zaeed are hold the line specialists.  Mordin is used early on when he makes the upgrades and the immunity to the collector probes.  Thane is.... the default radio guy in the hold the line segment.

That should have used either Grunt or Jack in the advertising.

Modifié par NICKjnp, 21 juillet 2010 - 09:34 .

[NICKjnp]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Actually, is it that much of a bad thing that FemShep's romances were not featured in marketing? For DudeShep, Miranda was clearly featured as an LI and an excerpt of her sex scene was shown. The FemShep equivalent that would have been used?

the priiize

Eeeek!

Added a link for you

[JamieCOTC]

Okay, the Jacob thing. I think, though I'm not sure, they were going for a Carth style character, someone who has trust issues, doesn't get close easily and would perhaps be a riddle to solve or a nut to crack. Playing KOTOR as a female Revan,I actually felt like I had accomplished something when I got him to trust me. I felt like I should have gotten an achievement. With Jacob, it's more, WTF is your problem? I know a lot of people find him bland, but during the romance, I found him rather annoying. So, my femShep is trying to figure this guy out and he all but tells her to go to hell. Maybe that is turn on for some, but not for my femShep, so I never finished it. It's shame too, as the only time Shep gets to vent is during that romance. And the really sad fact is that I actually like Jacob as a character, but not a romance.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Okay, got some free time, so here is my female Shepard:

First Name: Jane
Military Specialization: Infiltrator, formerly an Adept.
Morality: Renegade (mostly)
Background: Spacer / War Hero

Being a child of the stars, never staying in one place for so long, but always wandering around the galaxy, moving from one ship to another, Jane saw potential in herself. She was never very comfortable with the idea that aliens seemed to be taking over, but nevertheless, she knew better than not to trust them. By the time she joined the Alliance, Jane was a pure biotic, something that was unusual among Alliance personnel at the time. It was her confidence and potential that helped her become a biotic. Several years later, after a number of great accomplishments that made her a symbol of hope among the Alliance, she became Commanding Officer on the SSV Normandy, after having worked on the same ship as Executive Officer, under the command of Captain David Anderson. Two years later, after her tragic "accident", she was retooled as a sniper expert, an Infiltrator. And she thinks she likes herself better this way.

Jane doesn't make a habit of second-guessing, dwelling, or putting too much thought into something. She believes that the first answer that comes to mind is always the correct answer. She does what can be done, and she tries to be as efficient as possible in her work. However, she does not tolerate those who oppose her. She believes that her enemy is THE enemy; if they aren't dealt with quickly enough, any further trouble that is caused by them will be her fault. And she refuses to let that thought ever crosses her mind. When time permits, Jane likes to read, listen to casual music, or just sit there and think. She likes to believe that whatever she did is right, even if reality seems to disagree.

Jane was never interested in the idea of relationships; she always thought she had more pressing concerns ahead of her, and that a relationship would likely compromise her work and position as a respected individual and soldier. However, while she was tracking down Saren, Jane slowly but unintentionally developed a relationship with Lieutenant Kaidan Alenko. She liked Kaidan and respected him, but because he was pretty much her right hand against Saren and his geth, Jane wanted to "thank" Kaidan, in a way that involves more than just words. But she never thought she had any real feelings toward him, and she was right. Her relationship with Kaidan went all downhil the second Jane rendezvoused with drell assassin Thane Krios two years later. As soon as she laid eyes on him, as soon as she saw him take down a bunch of mercenaries in a matter of seconds, with his perfect moves and unforgettable personality that was surprisingly remarkable for her, she was completely and utterly fascinated by him -- something she had never felt before. This contradicts what Jane always thought; that she didn't care about relationships and didn't really believe in "love". It wasn't until she met Thane that she was irrevocably moved and shocked.

Much to Kaidan's dismay, Jane is now spending her sweet time with Thane, asking him all kinds of questions, talking to him about anything, and always keeping herself by his side, even after the war against the Collectors was over -- much like a father and his little daughter. Professor Mordin Solus has been telling her that her obsession with Krios is unhealthy, to which she always replies that it's none of his business and that she cares about Thane more than anything in the universe... to the point where she completely dismisses the fact that he is facing an impending death.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 21 juillet 2010 - 09:42 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Nice description, Firey! I enjoyed the explanation of your Shepard's romance with Thane. Very well thought out, and deep too. Excellent work!

Thanks; that was actually my feeling as a player, reflected on my Shepard. Both what I said about Thane and Kaidan.

[FireEye]

rynluna wrote...

didiware wrote...

Shouldn't we stop calling her Femshep and try out Jane, I believe it is the cannon one (although femshep isn't cannon at all, but we're all chaning that perspective aren't we?). What do you guys think? Is she Femshep or Jane Shepard?

Eh...well so many of us don't call our own FemSheps, Jane so I figured it's easier to go with FemShep.  I like the sound of it and our group as well as the thread has FemShep in it.  But that's just me.  I don't know how others feel on the subject.

FWIW... I call her Shepard.  

[Valentyna]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Something I've been wondering, by the way. For those of us that create and devise elaborate and detailed backstories for our Shepards, do you do so in part because you wish to incorporate it into fanfiction or fanart? Is it something you wish to explore in creative writing, and use when you create your own stories that elaborate on your individual Shepard's personality? Or, is it strictly for your own benefit so that you are able to immerse yourself in your Shepard's story, so that it fleshes her out and makes her a deeper character in your own eyes whilst playing the game?

I'm curious. Fanfiction is where people seem to enjoy sharing the stories of their individual Shepards, whereas some who expand the backstories of their characters prefer to keep it private and use it for their own benefit.

I find it comes in very handy when playing the game. It's a much better moral compass to follow than just "mostly paragon, do a renegade one every now and again"

Plus it's nice to have a cohesive backstory that you can draw upon in both fics and art.

Likewise.  I'm don't write fan-fiction, really (Its not like I have some moral objection or anything  -Im just pretty bad at it).  Even if I did, I would probably write about original characters somewhere else in the setting.

Most of the stuff about my Shepard's personality I sort of came to organically during play,a dn the more developed my idea of her gets the more I enjoy the dialog and moral choices in the game.

Modifié par Valentyna, 21 juillet 2010 - 10:16 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Jacob is just... himself. Unremarkable, normal as normal can be. That's exactly why nobody seems to like him, because he doesn't make you "feel" his character. He's simply "just there", similar to the airlock or the windows.

[jlb524]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Okay, got some free time, so here is my female Shepard:

First Name: Jane
Military Specialization: Infiltrator, formerly an Adept.
Morality: Renegade (mostly)
Background: Spacer / War Hero

*snip*

Nice post!  Very interesting read.