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[Sable Phoenix]

Skyline_Stanza wrote...

You truly captured both character's personalities very well! Was all that off the top of your head? I envy your ability to write the squadmates so well. I always have to look up references to thier speech patterns and how they carry themsevles. You had Garrus and Miranda spot on!

How did this description of your Jessica come to fruition? Was it just a random idea you had one day or did it develop over time from something small?

Yeah, the entire thing was off the top of my head.

Like most aspects of characters I create (and yes, "Shepard" is BioWare's, but at this point, Jessica Shepard is mine), Shep as a star, then a brown dwarf, just came to me unbidden one day.  I don't remember when or how, but it just latched onto my brain so hard that I couldn't let it go.  It really perfectly illustrated the difference I see in her between ME1 and ME2, or at least, the difference in the way her squadmates perceive her.  The idea that instead of interpreting ME2 as her running around like a galactic errand-boy (errand-girl? hm, doesn't work so well) and psychotherapist and fixing everyone's problems other than her own, that she is instead bulling her way towards her own objective and just dragging everyone else along with her as she goes.  Fixing their problems is almost ancillary to her main objective, something that just kind of happens along the way.  She's still a magnetic personality, but her orbit is defined simply by the force of her presence rather than by the effect she has on people.

... I just realized I need to make another playthrough of ME2 in order to tweak my dialogue choices.  She's still developing as a character apparently, and even though I as a player almost always choose Paragon-style conversation choices when talking to squadmates, I'm thinking maybe Jessica, as a character, wouldn't.  The way Jacob's conversations play out (where the bottom of the wheel, typically the "Renegade style" options in other conversations, are actually the normal conversation and the top, usually "Paragon style" options in other conversations, are blatant and gag-worthy flirting) actually may be more accurate for her, since I always choose the bottom options: businesslike, cool, interested and concerned enough to make sure things are alright but not personally involved.

Hmm.  Guess I'm still establishing my canon.

[Skyline_Stanza]

Wow. That's very impressive!

Yeah, FemShep's a constantly changing thing. One minute, one might find that they need to tweak a bit of spoken words here, a renegade interupt there, and they've made a drastic change to a character they thought they'd already percieved.

I know I'm still figuring out my canon Shep. Aside from her quirks, I've yet to figure out her background and military record.

Hey, quick question. When starting a NG+, the Paragon/Renegade meter is cleared, meaning you start blank in both slots and your passive power's already been maxed out (if you're like me and have to get a high persuasion score.) Do you just reset your powers using the Research terminal and gradually level your class power up when you've gotten a sufficent amount of points in either category?

Modifié par Skyline_Stanza, 28 octobre 2010 - 06:03 .

[Sable Phoenix]

Skyline_Stanza wrote...

Wow. That's very impressive!

Yeah, FemShep's a constantly changing thing. One minute, one might find that they need to tweak a bit of spoken words here, a renegade interupt there, and they've made a drastic change to a character they thought they'd already percieved.

I know I'm still figuring out my canon Shep. Aside from her quirks, I've yet to figure out her background and military record.

Hey, quick question. When starting a NG+, the Paragon/Renegade meter is cleared, meaning you start blank in both slots and your passive power's already been maxed out (if you're like me and have to get a high persuasion score.) Do you just reset your powers using the Research terminal and gradually level your class power up when you've gotten a sufficent amount of points in either category?

Jessica's an Infiltrator, and now that I have Armor-Piercing Ammo, I always start out with that.  I always max it, too, while I only put two or at max three ranks in the other ammo powers.  Nothing biotic for her, even though Warp Ammo is more broadly useful; it gives her a weakness, because she will always have trouble with Biotics, but I make the choice for character verisimilitude, because I can't justify her having Warp Ammo (unless it's an actual Dark Energy module upgrade onto her gun... but even then it doesn't feel right).  It's also the most devestating ammo power if you're facing anything besides shields; it just obliterates armor and health bars, and Jessica's every power choice is all about damage.

Signature power?  ME1: Assassination.  ME2: Operative, Assassin evolution (gotta love the super-slow-mo and damage boost), combined with the Assassination Cloak evolution on Tactical Cloak.  She's all about eliminating threats as quickly as possible.

[ozsras]

If your passive is the one that ups the para/ren score then I think you automatically have the points you need. At least I never had to worry about para/ren scores when doing a second playthrough. Or wait, are you asking if people do reset there powers? Oh no I don't b/c usually I have Shep's powers exactly how I want them by the end game. Or am I misreading your question completely? I haven't entirely woken up yet.

And welcome Skyline!

re Quirks: I like to imagine Nona yells out "make a hole!" when firing the grenade launcher, or shooting anything. She finds it funny but no one besides Grunt finds it hilarious.

She also has a fascination with Skyball and pesters Samara to play a game with her all the time. She tries to get Garrus into it too but he has "calibrations". I think it's because Samara and Nona play too rough and are way too competitive. heh.

Nona is a soldier so I usually pick AP ammo or Inferno grenades, I know that seems redonkously repeatative but I just can't see her with tech or biotics. The grenades though go really well with her skill set and with her personally.

Modifié par ozsras, 28 octobre 2010 - 06:15 .

[Sable Phoenix]

Oh right... signature sayings. Well... Jessica's sarcastic and understated. The three things she repeats herself on are: "Well, crap," said whenever something goes totally balls-up, like say, crashing the Mako through a miniature mass relay onto a burning Citadel; "Ouch," whenever she's just had something particularly violent done to her, like say, another Beacon on Virmire or getting grenaded by Saren; and "Well that was unexpected," whenever the universe throws her something totally out of left field, like say, finding out that a starship is actually a sentient galaxy-destroying machine by actually talking to it.

She doesn't talk in combat.  She is purely focused on removing threats.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 28 octobre 2010 - 06:16 .

[piemanz]

I'm really enjoying my first femshep playthrough, we just made it to the second prothean beacon.

[Never]

piemanz wrote...
I'm really enjoying my first femshep playthrough, we just made it to the second prothean beacon.

Isn't she awesome?

[Hyper_gateway]

piemanz wrote...

I'm really enjoying my first femshep playthrough, we just made it to the second prothean beacon.

Glad you enjoy of being as femshep~ :happy:

[Chignon]

Favorite/Iconic Power: Slam/Reave -depending on the mission. Very handy and I like the idea of Noah not having to use her weapons to take out enemies.



Combat Dialouge: She doesn't talk during combat except to give orders (I'm not a big fan of the squadmate combat dialogue in ME2 as it is - I prefer ME1 to that, with Ash nearly biting your head off for trying to talk with her,"Not now!").

Skyline_Stanza wrote...

Any of your Sheps have funny little quirks?

Noah has this little good luck charm from her time on Earth and she always takes it with her to every mission.

sagequeen wrote...

Public Service Message to All of Fem!Shep's enemies:

TAKE COVER



That is all. 

That's priceless, sagequeen!

Modifié par Chignon, 28 octobre 2010 - 10:24 .

[rage-monk]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...
[...] It would be great if Bioware shortened femShep's neck and beefed up her arms a little. The world would be a better place if this happened, I swear.

Neck is still not fixed? I could swear it's definitely better than in ME1.

favourite armor: BDA, since there is no quarian style armour for Lantrun it is the closest thing to show her compassion for her true love, Tali:wub:.

bonus 1)power/2)weapon:

• I like Shield Drain, because it weakens the enemy and at the same time gives me full shields again. For reapership mission though I prefer Geth Shieldboost / Barrier.
• Since I've tweaked the Auto Pistol to share its charactristics with the Beretta 93R I have to go with that one. Before that it was my least favorite weapon class and I preferred ARs (ME1 bonustalent) and sniper rifles, both of which aren't stadard for an Adept.

combat snarks for Shepard: It's nice Shepard is no longer a complete mute, but apart from stuff like "move out" or "stack up" a PC shouldn't say anything. If I wish to know the status of Lantrun's shields I take a look at the HUD, I don't need her to report that to me.
Mid-combat remarks would be on a level with "Die, scum!" (swear word(-s) would be a little more drastic, but I don't dare use them here :innocent:). At least that's what goes through my head in any FPS I play. Plus, I deem it rather suitable for an earthborn Renegon.

[Sable Phoenix]

Well, I think I finally got plainShep made to my satisfaction.  Oddly the biggest problem I had was getting eyes that animated correctly, so that the eyelashes didn't clip through the brows and the eyelids didn't clip through the eyeballs.  There really are only a few eyes that don't do that.  I went through three different ones before using Eye Shape 7.



Christine Shepard; Adept, Spacer, Sole Survivor.  The scar is from the skin grafts they had to use during the reconstructive surgery to put her face back together after the damage from the thresher maw acid.  Her eyes are her defining feature, being strikingly green, but other than that everything else about her is designed to be plain or average.  Her ears stick out as far as the character creator will allow, her nose is large and of no particular shape, her mouth is wide and asymmetrical, and she uses Complexion 2, which always gives femShep a distinctly middle-aged look.  I tried to choose features, like the mouth, that had some asymmetry to them since nobody's face is perfectly symmetrical.  She's definitely not pretty, just... realistic and normal-looking.  But she really appeals to me; I might actually complete the game with her.  Somehow, Hale's voice just really fits her and feels totally natural coming from her, even though I've gotten used to hearing it from Jessica.  She's a very by-the-book type so no romance for her until ME2, where I haven't decided if it'll be Garrus (probably, because Garrus rules) or Thane.

Anyway!  Project: plainShep is a success... I think.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 28 octobre 2010 - 11:46 .

[Captain Crash]

My new favourite power is Charge.   Cant believe I put off choosing a vanguard for so long!  Its so much fun :happy:


So Ameila (my avatar femshep) was a soldier in ME,  however she did have some biotic abilities. She was able to raise a fairly modest biotic barrier when required.  However with her military and battle tactic training, especially with the incidents of Mindoir and Ellysium,  she never undertook any biotic development. 

This however  changed with the Lazerus project.  As she was being reconstructed Cerberus saw a chance to upgrade her biotic abilities so she could function as a biotic if she choosed.  Additionally they fitted her with the experimental L5X implants.   Result, Commander Shepard the dealiest Alliance soldier in the Galaxy just became became a Collecor/Reaper killing machine!  Go Amelia! 

Modifié par Captain Crash, 28 octobre 2010 - 11:29 .

[sagefic]

@ sable: i am digging plainshep.



and yes, barrier is possibly my favorite skill for RP value, for saving kyrie's butt when she stayed a second out of cover too long to get off that last heavy pistol shot, and mostly, for just looking hawt in screenshots

[Sialater]

For those who don't know, I and a couple other posters are writing a collaborative work where there are three femShep Vanguards saving the galaxy, we're currently on the retelling of ME1 called Persephone Rising.  Jhosephine was kind enough to give us a pic of our Shepards.   We have to show off her work.

Modifié par Sialater, 28 octobre 2010 - 01:32 .

[Skyline_Stanza]

@ Chignon



Ahhhhh, Noah's face is one of the most detailed FemShep's I've seen. It's sooooo cool. I love it. How long did it take you to create her?



On the topic of creating FemSheps, what do you guys recommend? I realize that most of you might have different opinions about what goes into making a good FemShep, but I'd like to know about which kinds of facial features animate the best, like eyes, mouth, etc. I think my current Shep has Face 7, but it's been so long since I created her, that I'm not sure.



(A little OT here, hope none of you mind.) It occured to me, as I played Horizon yet again, that the husks....sort of make sense. Let me explain. We all know about ME2....ermm....boss fight at the end. Now, I'm seeing that as a glorified husk, to be honest, but instead of one human, it uses thousands upon thousands.



Harbinger's comments about perfection and the Reapers leading humans to their genetic destiny, coupled with what the Husks used to be and the tech used to create them, sort of just jumped out at me the moment I thought of it.



Ok, one more thing, and I'll stop. ME's influenced me to the point where I've had a few ME related dreams. This current one involved singing!Garrus. Which is odd, because I don't consider him one, but apparently, some part of me does! I think he was on the Citadel, in some bar, singing 'Fly me to the Moon.'



I can't recall much after that, but I realized my FemShep stood in the corner watching him, a small smile on her face. I think Thane was there as well? But since my Shep stayed loyal, and I got the feeling Garrus was singing to someone in the crowd, I have a feeling my brain is telling me to ship Garrus/Thane. Which I don't know how it would work or even if you could pull it off correctly.



ANYWHO, your FemSheps are lovely and wonderful and amazing and I wish I had the patience and dedication to go into the CC and make something beautiful.

[jillyfae]

sagequeen wrote...

@ sable: i am digging plainshep.

QFE.  I love Christine.  

and yes, barrier is possibly my favorite skill for RP value, for saving kyrie's butt when she stayed a second out of cover too long to get off that last heavy pistol shot, and mostly, for just looking hawt in screenshots

Also true.  (The RP part, I have not the patience to figure out screen shots on the XBox, so I shall never manage any of my own.)

As far as 'quirks' go, my Colonist Shep writes letters to her mother on a regular basis.  Sometimes just in her head, and she used to write them out at night almost like a diary.  She has lots of issues in ME2 w/the whole dying thing, as she was always sure she'd see her family again when she died, and she doesn't remember anything from her missing two years.  She stops writing in ME2, which definitely adds to the renegade increase in her temperament. 

[Vralenalien]

piemanz wrote...
I'm really enjoying my first femshep playthrough, we just made it to the second prothean beacon.

FemShep is awesome.

@Sable

I like your plainShep. :happy:
You should definetly play her through the game.

@Sialater

Like the pic of your sheps. :happy:

[sagefic]

Sialater wrote...

For those who don't know, I and a couple other posters are writing a collaborative work where there are three femShep Vanguards saving the galaxy, we're currently on the retelling of ME1 called Persephone Rising.  Jhosephine was kind enough to give us a pic of our Shepards.   We have to show off her work.

awesome, sia! good to see you. So, which is which? would that be L -> R: Meghan, Alexis, and Ella?

jho just rocks.

@ sky: in character creator, i've actually placed a piece of paper over the screen to try and get classic face proportions correct. while it isn't necessary to hit those proportions exactly (some more unique or interesting faces don't quite hit those marks - uma thurmond, for example, has a 25% deviation from that metric, while someone like sharon stone is only like 5% off) but it is a useful place to start if trying to do a sanity check.

i think part of why face 7 is so popular is its actually one of the few faces where you CAN get the proportions to line up correctly. in some faces, you actually have trouble putting the eyes low enough. i used face 1 and i had to so some major moving things around and kyrie is still not quite matching up with those marks, but she's close.

um...what else? a lot of people use ME2 to make the face, then import the code back. basically, it's 1-9 then A-W (and no letter "O") to port a code. so click #1 is 1. click #10 is A. click #13 is D and so on.

and the mass effect 2 face codes database is a great place to get ideas. i found it after i'd made kyrie, but it's helpful all the same. only keep an eye out for the screenshots that actually show shepard in action. some shots make almost any shep look good (smiling at garrus) and others aren't so accurate of a shep's true face (CC screen). best is if you can see youtube footage and see how they actually animate.

and i think there might be a way to hack the intro movie if you're on a PC to make it skippable. anyhow, i just let mine run while doing chores and then come back to it because i get sick of watching it over and over. (just go kaidan! but don't hate kyrie when you come back!)

[jwalker]

@skyline
First question

Honestly, I dont RP much that bonus power. I mainly choose it from a gameplay perspective.My canon shep, Abby is a Vanguard. For a large part of a playthrough  I use slam as a replacement for pull. Once I have enough skill points, I kinda ignore the bonus power.Of course, that changed with LotSB. Now there's Stasis. That's Liara's gift to her. Killing Scions with stasis is most satisfying.

As for special weapon, before Firepower pack, I took SR training, in my last run, AR ( the Mattock is almost cheating )

My other femshep, Hayley, is an Engineer. She has Neural Shock as bonus power. I highly doubt I'll change it.I modded the .ini file, so she has the shotgun as bonus weapon from Freedom's Progress. I have yet to play to disable collector ship mission

Second question.
I think the same as Sage's. Sh*t. One powerful syllable. No more is needed. If you mess up your target and instead of charging against that lonely mook over there, you ended up landing in the middle of a mob, there's no time to be fancy. And the same syllable is fitting when you oneshot some merc at point blank range.

As for the Buffy comparison, in that case her death and 'resurrection' were the main story. In ME2, that was only a device to justify the CC and to ease newcomers' introduction to the franchise. Totally lame. I dont know if in future DLC or ME3 the issue will be addressed. I'm not holding my breat for that. 

EDIT: format

Modifié par jwalker, 28 octobre 2010 - 02:18 .

[Iwakura-Lain]

Sialater wrote...

For those who don't know, I and a couple other posters are writing a collaborative work where there are three femShep Vanguards saving the galaxy, we're currently on the retelling of ME1 called Persephone Rising.  Jhosephine was kind enough to give us a pic of our Shepards.   We have to show off her work.

Persephone Rising?! That has a distinct Firefly ring to it.

Great image, though. And the lighting, it actually appears the 3 Femsheps have each their own, correct, in-game shadow. Wonder how you pulled that off.

Modifié par Iwakura-Lain, 28 octobre 2010 - 02:18 .

[Sialater]

sagequeen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

For those who don't know, I and a couple other posters are writing a collaborative work where there are three femShep Vanguards saving the galaxy, we're currently on the retelling of ME1 called Persephone Rising.  Jhosephine was kind enough to give us a pic of our Shepards.   We have to show off her work.

awesome, sia! good to see you. So, which is which? would that be L -> R: Meghan, Alexis, and Ella?

jho just rocks.

Got it in one.  And yes, Jho rocks.  Our RP'ing is quite extensive with these characters, at least, as y'all can probably guess.

[jillyfae]

Iwakura-Lain wrote...

Persephone Rising?! That has a distinct Firefly ring to it.

Great image, though. And the lighting, it actually appears the 3 Femsheps have each their own, correct, in-game shadow. Wonder how you pulled that off.

Well, we're all Firefly fans, so I'm sure Whedon has snuck his way into our Shepards a bit.  Plus some David Weber, and Lois McMaster Bujold, and Star Wars, and I totally have this weird Hepburn/Grant screwball comedy inspired addiction to dialogue, so, um... yeah.

As far as the shadows, you'd have to ask Jhosephine.  I fail at the computer or art skills, but she is spectacular.  

[Sialater]

Iwakura-Lain wrote...

Sialater wrote...

For those who don't know, I and a couple other posters are writing a collaborative work where there are three femShep Vanguards saving the galaxy, we're currently on the retelling of ME1 called Persephone Rising.  Jhosephine was kind enough to give us a pic of our Shepards.   We have to show off her work.

Persephone Rising?! That has a distinct Firefly ring to it.

Great image, though. And the lighting, it actually appears the 3 Femsheps have each their own, correct, in-game shadow. Wonder how you pulled that off.

Well, we are all heavily influenced by Whedon (some of us more than others).  I did nickname my Shepard, the one on the left in red, Buffy the Reaper Slayer.  (Her name's Meghan, btw.)  And Jho just rocks.

[ELE08]

jillyfae wrote...

Iwakura-Lain wrote...

Persephone Rising?! That has a distinct Firefly ring to it.

Great image, though. And the lighting, it actually appears the 3 Femsheps have each their own, correct, in-game shadow. Wonder how you pulled that off.

Well, we're all Firefly fans, so I'm sure Whedon has snuck his way into our Shepards a bit.  Plus some David Weber, and Lois McMaster Bujold, and Star Wars, and I totally have this weird Hepburn/Grant screwball comedy inspired addiction to dialogue, so, um... yeah.

As far as the shadows, you'd have to ask Jhosephine.  I fail at the computer or art skills, but she is spectacular.  

I'll have to read that now.  And I'm always impressed by Jhosephine's manips, they're pretty flawless (she's on Deviant Art for anyone who's curious.)