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[Sialater]

Heh, and look! It's a Jhosephine photomanip on the desk!

[sagefic]

ELE08 wrote...

Sable Phoenix wrote...

See that's another reason it's tough to avoid romancing him.  Whether it's entering the Tuchanka hospital or outside the Dantius Towers elevator on Illium, he's the only squadmate who directly interacts with Shepard outside of their loyalty mission (not counting Liara in Shadow Broker of course).  It really makes him feel like they have a dynamic and lively relationship that goes beyond commander/soldier.  More like partners.

... it's wierd that I still haven't decided if canon Jessica cheats on Liara with Garrus or not.

It took me 3 playthroughs to decide that canon Teagan stays faithful to Kaidan.  So you're not the only one.
It was a harder decision for me because it goes outside the paragon renegade choices.  It's more of a personal decision, and I had to figure out what kind of person she is in regards to relationships.  Garrus is like a perfect match to her personality/alignment, but that's also why they make good best friends.  Kaidan might be a little too idealistic for her, but I like that they're two different people.  Besides, love isn't always rational.

I can rationalize both decisions of remaining faithful and moving on, for lack of better terms.

I totally know what you mean about trying to figure out "what kind of shep is this shep?" While it took me all of the second Garrus convo (popping heat sinks) to decide that such a thing would not fit my canon shep, it was a near call. Garrus is awesome, but I think my shep stuck with Kaidan for precisely the same reason yours did - love isn't rational. well, and kaidan is awesome. but yeah, it's the non-critical decisions that are harder, i think.

@ KT: that is great! did you do that?

[ELE08]

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'll just leave this here.....

First I .  Then it was actually kind of cute.  And then Miranda showed up and .
And then you M. Night Shyamalan'ed me...again.

Commander Shepard Parody porn?  You know it's out there.  Hypothetically.  In Mass Effect land.  No way there's a Shepard VI and no one's cashed in on that goldmine.  I have very little faith in humanity, even in the hypothetical future.

[Kary Tyrrell]

sagequeen wrote...

@ KT: that is great! did you do that?

I'm afraid not, I only added the old Ragnarok Emoticon to my Screenshot (and that very poorly )
It's part of this nice TexMod: http://social.biowar...m/project/3276/

The Kaidan Picture can be found here: http://jhourney.devi...llery/#/d2osgx0

[scampermax]

jwalker wrote...

scampermax wrote...

Thanks! And thanks to everyone else who commented on the outfit.

project can be found here for anyone interested: http://social.biowar...m/project/3734/

thanks for sharing, scamper!


http://img163.images...ycasualwear.jpg

For now, the only way of avoiding certain logos, is not standing in front of them



http://img13.imagesh...leykellyhug.jpg

Kelly was worried. She needed a hug.

Great pics of your Shepard. Thanks for sharing them.

Could I post the first one in the project gallery? I'd love to show other femSheps besides mine.

Also, I'd like to thank everyone again for all the positive comments. Much appreciated.

[Chignon]

Thanks to all of you who liked Evan. She's flattered ...



... in her own way.

[ADLegend21]

ELE08 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'll just leave this here.....

First I .  Then it was actually kind of cute.  And then Miranda showed up and .
And then you M. Night Shyamalan'ed me...again.

Commander Shepard Parody porn?  You know it's out there.  Hypothetically.  In Mass Effect land.  No way there's a Shepard VI and no one's cashed in on that goldmine.  I have very little faith in humanity, even in the hypothetical future.

I know right. Rule 34 exists even 100 something years from now.

yeah I was kinda tinkering with Commander Shepard actually not getting love back, but then I remembered we have Samara for that but the Miranda angle was just too good to pass up on.

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

sagequeen wrote...

@ ad: kyrie's an adept + barrier. i was not doing so well on landing headshots this time around. i could get one in, but not a second and without the canifiex the pistol wasn't doing enough damage. those vorcha move FAST. i'd do one hit and they were dancing around again and regening.

man, on insanity they flank you before you know it. it's funny, there are certain spots that i find really hard - more than "boss" areas, even. the big room of vorcha, krogan, and verran is horrible for me - the one to the right of the first shutter. the other one, the long pipe with barricades -not so much. on horizon, the praetorian is a pain, but it's those scions that get me. and then the husks on the way back on the collector ship. basically, kyrie doesn't do as well in close combat. she's a tactician, and somewhat squishy when out from cover.

I finished the game on insanity recently, and the toughest battle, bizarrely enough, is when you recruit Grunt, in Okeer's lab with the Krogan, the heavy mech, that rocket launching woman, and terrible cover options! I killed the final boss first time on insanity, but had to reload the battle on horizon with husks (who are so annoying because they have armour! Can't just shockwave them away,) scions and that praetorian loads of times. So watch out for those battles, they are the toughest. I was a vanguard, so a little advice for you, is to get reave and warp. They are the two best abilites in my opinion and saved my hide a lot! They hurt enemies and work on everything but shields. But hey, we have Garrus for that!! Just to say, I'm really glad there's a femshep thread! There's a lot of us female gamers out there! 

[sagefic]

 Okay, d20sapphire's blog post got me thinking. I completely agree with the fact that femshep succeeds as a strong female character because she's portrayed as someone with a job to do first and foremost - her sex/sexuality is just a sort of side note to her story, and one that the player can ignore if they like.

I think, taking this a step further, is why I so disliked Liara/femshep at first and have come to appreciate it only after LotSB came out.

In ME1, Liara struck me as completely contrived fanservice. I'm sorry, but there it is. About the first thing Liara expresses is 1) interest in shepard and 2)  her sexuality/ability to mate with shepard. It completely annoyed me. the fact that Kaidan/Ashley were straight (when it really seemed like they could (should?) have been bi) made this more glaring. It wasn't about "oh, this person loves shep and they happen to be an alien/a womanly figure. it was like liara's sexuality was being held up as one of the major defining parts of her character.  since the other characters in ME are more than their sexuality,(even if miranda does her best to hide that fact behind her heels), it seemed especially glaring as a point of characterization.  Kaidan/Ashley, especially, struck me as people who were just sort of there, fell for shep, and happened to be a "wow, don't have time for romance but falling in love anyway sort of thing." da:o was more that way, too, imo. just people who happen to fall in love. but the liara romance seemed to draw wAY too much attention to itself - especially with a femshep, for some reason. i think it was the line "huh, we're both women" <--a line that always made think surely shep knows about asari. right? it seemed so clearly there for the player, NOT what the characters woudl actually say. so most of their convos were about how mating worked - even before shep is able to show or express any interest in that.

LotSB, however, really made it about shep and liara - their friendship, their trust, their journey, so i started to like liara again. suddenly femshep/liara didn't strike me as blatant fanservice, but as a genuine pairing. hale and hilli's voice work helped a lot with that -  - instead, LotSB was about people who cared about each other. because of that, i think femshep seemed better in my eyes. originally, when paired with liara, it was like femshep's character was being made to revolve around her (femshep's) sexuality by extension from the way they'd written liara. but since they took the time to make liara more than just her sexuality, it seemed like shep moved beyond that, too.  

i think a lot of the problem could also have been solved if they'd just up and made same-sex relationships from the begining. the fact that they didn't (150 yrs. in the future, no less!) just made liara's role as the only "same sex" relationship all the more glaring and fanservice-like.

anyhow. just thinking out loud here.

Modifié par sagequeen, 02 novembre 2010 - 04:33 .

[magelet]

When I first played Mass Effect my initial thought about Liara, and all asari really, was that they were only there for fanservice. It wasn't until ME2 that I think they put more into the asari, and tried to make them...better. I like Liara a lot more after playing ME2, but I wasn't crazy about her in ME1.

I thought she was kind of the generic damsel in distress in ME1, Shepard saves her and then she falls in love with him/her. I agree that LotSB made the Liara romance more than that though.

[M3cHr3p71l]

d20sapphire wrote...

Ashwraith wrote...

Right, so.... I don't know if anyone here has seen this (I can't be arsed to check through 439 pages, so I'm going with 'maybe', >.> ), but yonder blogger took absolutely everything I thought about FemShepard, and made it epic.

(Actually, scratch that. This is pretty much what I always thought about female video game protagonists in general.)

I know this was posted quite a while back, but I just wanted to respond and say thanks for reading my blog.  I'm glad I'm not the only woman gamer who feels like that about the main characters in games.  

I might explore it more over time... we'll see.  

Great Post. I share your position.

The education says us what is "feminine" and what is "masculine" and this determine our thoughts and behaviour
but... is it really true?? or are the society who impose it?? I choose the last.
In addition, everywhere it seems that they constantly remind us; and as you correctly say, FemShep is a exception in the games, where feminine is irrevocably associated with "Oh, she is hot" or otherwise she behaves like a "guy".
Women and men's behaviour is "default"???!!!. Pffffff!!!. Stupid stereotypes.  

I enjoy playing with FemShep, I know SHE is a HEROINE; not a stereotyped heroine. SHE is a true HEROINE;
MY HEROINE.

[jlb524]

sagequeen wrote...

In ME1, Liara struck me as completely contrived fanservice. I'm sorry, but there it is. About the first thing Liara expresses is 1) interest in shepard and 2)  her sexuality/ability to mate with shepard. It completely annoyed me. the fact that Kaidan/Ashley were straight (when it really seemed like they could (should?) have been bi) made this more glaring. It wasn't about "oh, this person loves shep and they happen to be an alien/a womanly figure. it was like liara's sexuality was being held up as one of the major defining parts of her character.  since the other characters in ME are more than their sexuality,(even if miranda does her best to hide that fact behind her heels), it seemed especially glaring as a point of characterization.  Kaidan/Ashley, especially, struck me as people who were just sort of there, fell for shep, and happened to be a "wow, don't have time for romance but falling in love anyway sort of thing." da:o was more that way, too, imo. just people who happen to fall in love. but the liara romance seemed to draw wAY too much attention to itself - especially with a femshep, for some reason. i think it was the line "huh, we're both women" <--a line that always made think surely shep knows about asari. right? it seemed so clearly there for the player, NOT what the characters woudl actually say. so most of their convos were about how mating worked - even before shep is able to show or express any interest in that.

Naw, I agree...it was fanservicy.  The fact that a member from an all female species who've mated with each other exclusively for thousands of years would even want to mate with a non-asari is kind of bogus, IMO, and fanservice (unless we are talking FemShep, given the similarities between asari and human females).    One problem I have with asari romances (and all non-human romances, tbh) is that most fans assume sex with them works just the same as it does with a human female (or male), but I don't think it should.  If you are going to take on a non-human love interest, you should aware that comprimises need to be made as you adapt to their physiology (and them to yours).   If it does, then I find that incredibly fanservicy, and romancing non-humans really is no different from romancing humans.

[sagefic]

well if you thought so, jlb, then i don't feel so bad for thinking so. lotsb was way overdue, imo.
randomly, @ ele: i am very happy teagan stayed faithful to kaidan if for no other reason than the awesome art it has inspired that you posted over on the kast

Modifié par sagequeen, 02 novembre 2010 - 04:51 .

[Chignon]

sagequeen wrote...

randomly, @ ele: i am very happy teagan stayed faithful to kaidan if for no other reason than the awesome art it has inspired that you posted over on the kast

I must agree with sagequeen. You are really spoiling us with all those beautiful pictures. Thank you.

Modifié par Chignon, 02 novembre 2010 - 04:58 .

[Skyline_Stanza]

ELE08 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'll just leave this here.....

First I .  Then it was actually kind of cute.  And then Miranda showed up and .
And then you M. Night Shyamalan'ed me...again.

Commander Shepard Parody porn?  You know it's out there.  Hypothetically.  In Mass Effect land.  No way there's a Shepard VI and no one's cashed in on that goldmine.  I have very little faith in humanity, even in the hypothetical future.

I don't doubt that someone over at the MassKink meme has done some smut with the Shep VI, be Shep male or female. There's probably some humourous (or serious?) stuff about EDI and the Shep VI. I both shudder and laugh thinking about it.

I liked Liara in both games, but it was only until LotSB that made me think how far the daughter of Benezia has come in terms of characterization. I understand that, on some part, Liara's relationship with FemShep was...."fan-servicey", as Jib puts it. But after watching LotSB on youtube, I found myself applauding Liara's writer for handling her character in those scenes. Makes me love the FemShep/Liara just a little more. 

For alien romances, I've always felt that Shepard was attracted to them through thier personality and their presence, and that they physical attraction was only a small part of thier love for their LI. That's how I see the Liara/FemShep.  

Though I must confess my first ME2 playthrough, I cheat on Liara with Garrus. After that, I felt that it didn't fit my idea of Shep (I'm sorry, Garrus! You'll get some love in my fanfic! Just not from Shep!) so I'm going to go through ME and ME2 with Cameron and have her be faithful and gaze longingly at a blushing Liara pic as "Reflections" plays in the backround.   
 

[adneate]

sagequeen wrote...
In ME1, Liara struck me as completely contrived fanservice. I'm sorry, but there it is. About the first thing Liara expresses is 1) interest in shepard and 2)  her sexuality/ability to mate with shepard. It completely annoyed me.

I see where you're coming from and it could have been a bit better than it was. That being said I can see why they'd handled it the way they did, mainly because Liara was also set up as a primary information center for the Asari as a species that the player had just encountered in the universe. Liara was a "safe" way to do an Alien roamance, largely because she was quite similar to humans and if they started right off the bat with Garrus and Tali a lot of people would probably be put off. It would sort of be "too much too soon" for the majority of the audience, a dude with an exoskeleton and razor teeth or a chick with no face and chicken legs that bend "the wrong way" is really pushing it. This was the first game and they couldn't just throw the player right in and expect them to "get it" it had to be explained in game, which is why a good deal of Liara's dialogue is mostly just an Asari codex.

Once the info dump is over it progresses at a much more normal pace with more of a focus on Shepard and Liara coping with the situation around them than just talking about Asari physiology and what parts go where. Of course LotSB is nothing but relationship building and character development so for someone who is off put by all the "Tech" talk I think it would quite natural they'd be much more taken in by LotSB Liara. Dispite her still being ME1 Liara in a lot of ways.

[Skyline_Stanza]

I like the colors and the patterns Rebecka uses for her armor. That pattern seems to be very popluar. I'm still trying to figure out what color/pattern/material would work best characterizing Cameron.

[f1r3storm]

What's a bosh'tet?


What the... what did you eat today, Zaeed?


John Woo? Never heard of him.

[Chignon]

For the same reason you like the original ME2 armour on your Shepard, Rob: it fits their character.

[sagefic]

Rob_J_R wrote...
And I rather like the original ME2 armour.  Don't really get why so many people are so bent on modded armour.
Whatever...

it's not bad. i like it, too. i just didn't feel it fit my adept. i spent most of ME1 in the same crap onyx armor, just tossing on barrier even in hardcore mode. it felt like that came to fit her personality: crap armor and barrier. she's a jeans and just-mascara-thanks kind of girl. i just didn't feel right playing ME2 in the new stuff.



i did always wonder, though, why does her armor have an N7 logo if she's with cerberus? did they just put than on for funsies? if so, why can't they take off their stupid logo from all her casual wear?

Modifié par sagequeen, 02 novembre 2010 - 05:28 .

[jlb524]

I think all of Shep's casual wear should have the N7 logo instead of Cerby (or, as least some of them should).



Also, sage, when Kyrie puts that armor on, does her voice sound muffled, like she's wearing a helmet?

[Sable Phoenix]

M3cHr3p71l wrote...

Great Post. I share your position.

The education says us what is "feminine" and what is "masculine" and this determine our thoughts and behaviour
but... is it really true?? or are the society who impose it?? I choose the last.
In addition, everywhere it seems that they constantly remind us; and as you correctly say, FemShep is a exception in the games, where feminine is irrevocably associated with "Oh, she is hot" or otherwise she behaves like a "guy".
Women and men's behaviour is "default"???!!!. Pffffff!!!. Stupid stereotypes.  

I enjoy playing with FemShep, I know SHE is a HEROINE; not a stereotyped heroine. SHE is a true HEROINE;
MY HEROINE.

Gender is not just societally defined.  Study after study after study has confirmed what the entire history of human experience (or anyone who's ever had any interaction with a person of the opposite sex) could tell us; men and women have brains that are both chemically and structurally different from each other, just like their bodies.  They process and communicate information in different ways.

This is why, on occasion, femShep comes off as feeling a little wierd to me.  Shep is written as male (even if BioWare might contest that), and that means that femShep will sometimes do or say something that a woman would most likely do or say differently than it is presented in the game, because the communication styles are fundamentally different.  Hale's presentation compensates for this most of the time, but sometimes it really is the fault of the writing and there's nothing she can do with it.  The worst examples of this are actually the romances in ME2, where femShep suddenly veers way out of character and basically throws herself at the head of the potential LI (it's especially bad with Jacob, obviously).  When the writers write Shep as "female" first they seem to instantly degrade into stereotype.  Just... fail.


"Did I really just say that?"

Fortunately these instances are fairly rare and femShep mostly comes off as a tough, competent, businesslike soldier who can kick ass, take names, save the galaxy, and just happens to be a woman on top of it all.  Represent!

[Skyline_Stanza]

@ sage

Purely to screw with Shepard >:C

Kidding aside, I'm not actually sure. I think you've discovered the only thing that I can't RP away. Interesting...

Modifié par Skyline_Stanza, 02 novembre 2010 - 05:40 .