Skyline_Stanza wrote...
I know what you mean. Is she the only one who calls Shepard, "Shep?"
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
Plus I love the way she leans up against "Alison Gunn" when talking to Hock at her heist, like they're already BFFs. I think someone posted a pic of her doing that? I'm too lazy to think of where and what page, sadly. Hahaha.
FemShep/Kasumi friendship FTW INDEED.
adneate wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
Why'd the writers have to royally screw one of the nicest guys in all of Mass effect?
I wouldn't go that far, he's a royal douchebag to Thane.
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
You've hit the nail right on the head. I'd think FemShep, with all the utter crap she goes through in ME2, would have a chance to just vent, to talk to someone, (if not Tali/Garrus, at least Kelly. It's kinda what she's there for)
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
...and utterly destroy a part of the ship in her rage (she were a biotic or techy.
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
I'm not sure how shed go about her chatharsis if she were a soldier.
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
On the subject of this breakdown, would Shep rage quietly, in her room punchng various things or flining things around with her biotics or would she not care where she did it, as long as she got it all out, so to speak.
Maybe they thought it would make him look modest or s.th.? But it's not my responsibility to find excuses for them. And using that line with FemShep is inexcusable.ADLegend21 wrote...
Yeah it is meant formale shep, but then hat make Jacob down play himself by admitting Shepard is a better man than him (which Isn't always the case.) and that sucks. Why'd the writers have to royally screw one of the nicest guys in all of Mass effect?TeenZombie wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
yeah Sheps asks about his time with Miranda and he gets down troddend about itjwalker wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
for the 11 millionth time Jacob "miranda deserves a better man than I" is him saying "She's way high matinence and I'm not the guy for all that" not "she's awesome and I'm not enough but I'm enough for you" plus he says the same thing with Male shep so it's a canned line.
is that the context? i always get a bad taste when he says that. i'll play jacob's LM again to listen that dialog again....
Jacob sounded regretful about the situation when he said she deserved a better man than him. I don't think he'd "bash" Miranda to Shepard; he is pretty reticent when it comes to sharing his emotions, and I don't think he's interested in gossiping about his former lover.
I think that the line is meant for a male Shepard speaking to Jacob, but they were too lazy to think about what it would mean to female Shepards who might want to romance him. Maybe that's cynical of me, but the writers don't come here to talk to us, and based on the other examples of shoddy writing, I don't have a lot of faith in them adding extra layers of depth, especially if it's to make something make more sense to a FemShep player...(yes, I'm cynical.)
jlb524 wrote...
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
I know what you mean. Is she the only one who calls Shepard, "Shep?"
Yes, it's very cute, actuallySkyline_Stanza wrote...
Plus I love the way she leans up against "Alison Gunn" when talking to Hock at her heist, like they're already BFFs. I think someone posted a pic of her doing that? I'm too lazy to think of where and what page, sadly. Hahaha.
FemShep/Kasumi friendship FTW INDEED.
Yeah, that whole loyalty mission is awesome.
Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 02 novembre 2010 - 10:07 .
He's got a point though. Thane's a freelance assasin, evne I was wary of thane on my first playthrough but then found out he was a cool dying dude. Plus it reminded me of the ODST/Spartan rivalry from Halo except it's a formal soldier (Jacob) with a freelance merc (Thane) where as Jacob helped people while Thane just killed random people for sums of money. The only reason he probably doesn't say anthing about Zaeed is because you don't need Zaeed to do anyhting and he doens't even get a briefing.adneate wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
Why'd the writers have to royally screw one of the nicest guys in all of Mass effect?
I wouldn't go that far, he's a royal douchebag to Thane.
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
Anyone sense that they could have made one of the loyalty arguments from this? It would have been interesting to see.
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Sable Phoenix wrote...
As far as the Liara romance goes, I think that's one of the few times where the writing actually works better for femShep. The dialogue for Liara and Shepard is more feelings-oriented than the dialogue for any other character interaction in the other games, especially during LotSB, and that kind of talk feels a little more comfortable coming from a female Shepard than a male one.
KaryTyrrell wrote...
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
You've hit the nail right on the head. I'd think FemShep, with all the utter crap she goes through in ME2, would have a chance to just vent, to talk to someone, (if not Tali/Garrus, at least Kelly. It's kinda what she's there for)
Seen from an RP Point I would't say that Shep wouldn't talk about what happened with Tali / Garrus / Jocker or Chakwas. It's more that we just don't see it in-game. (After all, this Topic was more or less left out...)Skyline_Stanza wrote...
...and utterly destroy a part of the ship in her rage (she were a biotic or techy.
After what happened to her at the beginning of ME2 I just can't find myself seeing her falling into some rage. More secluded and thoughtfully...Skyline_Stanza wrote...
I'm not sure how shed go about her chatharsis if she were a soldier.
Most likely some sparring with Garrus (not the tiebreaker, but that would had been a way better start of the Garrus Romance :innocent:)
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
On the subject of this breakdown, would Shep rage quietly, in her room punchng various things or flining things around with her biotics or would she not care where she did it, as long as she got it all out, so to speak.
As said above, I doubt she would rage. My Canon Shep cries herself to sleep every night...
but every Shep is different
adneate wrote...
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
Anyone sense that they could have made one of the loyalty arguments from this? It would have been interesting to see.
Who would side with Jacob if it was one? He's clearly just being a dick for no good reason.
ADLegend21 wrote...
He's got a point though.
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adneate wrote...
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
Anyone sense that they could have made one of the loyalty arguments from this? It would have been interesting to see.
Who would side with Jacob if it was one? He's clearly just being a dick for no good reason.
1) Jacob's a soldier. Thane an assassin. I think it's something about Jacob's sense of honor.Skyline_Stanza wrote...
adneate wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
Why'd the writers have to royally screw one of the nicest guys in all of Mass effect?
I wouldn't go that far, he's a royal douchebag to Thane.
Anyone sense that they could have made one of the loyalty arguments from this? It would have been interesting to see.
Jacob only joined Cerberus because of the Lazerus project. His only job was to guard Commander shepards body and be on the crew. He had no involvement prior and even says he's only working or hem because they're actually doing the right thing in his first conversation. prior to that he was in the Alliance or being a corsair. So yes, he does have a point.adneate wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
He's got a point though.
No he doesn't he has no point, he's a mercenary working for a bunch of human supremacist terrorists who run biotic death camps and kill anyone and everyone who gets in their way. He has no moral superiority to an assassin, Thane kills people for money and so does Jacob because he's a mercenary. It's literally the pot calling the kettle black.
sagequeen wrote...
adneate wrote...
Skyline_Stanza wrote...
Anyone sense that they could have made one of the loyalty arguments from this? It would have been interesting to see.
Who would side with Jacob if it was one? He's clearly just being a dick for no good reason.
jacob's jab to tali about the AI is completely uncalled for. i hated him for that. other times, he's not so bad. jacob got the best WTF moments of dialog in the entire game, imo.
re: how shep vents, i take it that my shep takes her rage out in battle. headshots ftw. but she's stuffing her feelings. when/if (please, god, not IF) kaidan comes back, she is going to fall apart on someone.
jlb524 wrote...
and working out at the gym. Mostly the latter.
Modifié par Captain Crash, 02 novembre 2010 - 10:24 .
Oh, forgot about that one. I don't think he wanted to insult her. It seems Jacob has a massive lack of empathy.sagequeen wrote...
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jacob's jab to tali about the AI is completely uncalled for. i hated him for that. other times, he's not so bad. jacob got the best WTF moments of dialog in the entire game, imo.
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Modifié par rage-monk, 02 novembre 2010 - 10:23 .
ADLegend21 wrote...
Jacob only joined Cerberus because of the Lazerus project. His only job was to guard Commander shepards body and be on the crew. He had no involvement prior and even says he's only working or hem because they're actually doing the right thing in his first conversation. prior to that he was in the Alliance or being a corsair. So yes, he does have a point.adneate wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
He's got a point though.
No he doesn't he has no point, he's a mercenary working for a bunch of human supremacist terrorists who run biotic death camps and kill anyone and everyone who gets in their way. He has no moral superiority to an assassin, Thane kills people for money and so does Jacob because he's a mercenary. It's literally the pot calling the kettle black.
there should have been Loyalty arguements for all the crew members. I ws thinking along the lines of:Skyline_Stanza wrote...
Anyone sense that they could have made one of the loyalty arguments from this? It would have been interesting to see.
Modifié par ADLegend21, 02 novembre 2010 - 10:30 .
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I noticed that too. I didn't even realize why it offended Tali until I got her, up until then I was like "wtf is wrong with you Tali?" but then again Jacob was just being helpful so she wasn't blindsided by EDI doing something.rage-monk wrote...
Oh, forgot about that one. I don't think he wanted to insult her. It seems Jacob has a massive lack of empathy.sagequeen wrote...
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jacob's jab to tali about the AI is completely uncalled for. i hated him for that. other times, he's not so bad. jacob got the best WTF moments of dialog in the entire game, imo.
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ADLegend21 wrote...
...prior to that he was in the Alliance or being a corsair...
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