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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Vanguard1219 wrote...

"Genetic abnormalities"? Like what? Did the Collector's have a suspicion that Shepard was able to kill Soverign because she has Sickle-Cell Anemia?


I think the thing was the Reapers think that the only way she could defeat them was to be a genetic abberation that made her superior.  Instead of just "normal," but with a strong will.


So the Reaper's view on this is "there's no possible way a mere human could have killed Soverign, she has to be more highly evolved".  That's the kind of reaction that stems from either arrorgance or frantic rationalizing out of fear.

... wait...

*Awesome Vanguard skit snip*


Precisely.  Just without the crying. ;)

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Captain Crash wrote...

Although going forward if peeps want to keep discussing that topic then create a new thread. Its not really suited for in here as its not directly femshep related anymore


Yeah, sorry about that :whistle: Let's re-rail this topic ... now.

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?

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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Vanguard1219 wrote...

"Genetic abnormalities"? Like what? Did the Collector's have a suspicion that Shepard was able to kill Soverign because she has Sickle-Cell Anemia?


I think the thing was the Reapers think that the only way she could defeat them was to be a genetic abberation that made her superior.  Instead of just "normal," but with a strong will.


So the Reaper's view on this is "there's no possible way a mere human could have killed Soverign, she has to be more highly evolved".  That's the kind of reaction that stems from either arrorgance or frantic rationalizing out of fear.

... wait...

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Somewhere in Dark Space

Harbinger: Alright, guys, huddle up. I have some bad news. Soverign is.. um... well, he's dead.

Reclusiarch: Do what now?

Executor: Wait, Soverign is dead?!

Harbinger: Well, "dead" is kind of a relative term concidering we're multi-millenia old sentient starships and we were never truely "alive" to begin with, but yeah, dead.

Chaplain: And this happend... how?

Harbinger: I'm not sure, I'm kind of sketchy on the details. All I know is that some human brought Soverign down. Her name was "Shepard" or some such, I don't really remember.

Palidan: Wait, a mere human? Killed one of us?

*unconfortable silence*

Reclusiarch: ... she might not be an ordinary human...

*chorus of anxious agreements*

Executor: Oh, of course! I mean come on, the mere thought or some random pink, squishy ape-thing, probably arising from humble origins to overcome great trials and hardships in order to kill Soverign? The very thought of it is just perposterous.

Harbinger:
He's right, this "Shepard" has to be special somehow. Different. More powerful than the rest of her race.

Palidan: ... like how?

*unconfortable silence*

Harbinger: ... erm... maybe a... I don't know, a genetic abnormality of some sort?

*the group mutters in agreement*

Chaplain: This Shepard could have... uh... clairvoyance or some sort? I mean, that has to be the only way that she was able to see our plan coming. Nevermind that we've used the same strategy three-hundred and eighty-six thousand times now.

Reclusiarch: Perhaps she can fire lasers out of her optic nerves. That would make her a fearsome opponent indeed.

Executor:
Maybe she has a feathered brain. Would that be something that would make a human more powerful? A feathered brain?

Palidan: It might be because she has Sickle-Cell Anemia...

Reclusiarch: *sighs* Shut the **** up, Palidan.

Harbinger: Guys! How about we go get Shepard, kill her, discect her, and figure out what made her so different and remarkable in the first damn place?

Chaplain: Hmm, that could work.

Harbinger: The sooner we know the better, because *scoffs* c'mon, there's no possible way an entire species could possibly be naturally talented, driven, and generally badass enough to just kill one of us like that, right?

*unconfortable silence*

Harbinger: ... right?

*more silence*

Paidan: We're all going to die, aren't we?

Reclusiarch: I said shut the **** up, Palidan!

Harbinger:
... if you guys need me, I'm going to be in the corner crying...




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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Captain Crash wrote...

Although going forward if peeps want to keep discussing that topic then create a new thread. Its not really suited for in here as its not directly femshep related anymore


Yeah, sorry about that :whistle: Let's re-rail this topic ... now.

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


For Avery, Miranda (third, of course, after Tali and Garrus).  For Meghan.... She's not as close to Miranda as Avery is because Meghan doesn't get close to anyone (except the obvious).  Though she really wants to save Jack from herself.  There but for the grace of the Alliance and all that.

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My first Fem Shep had the hots for Garrus but trusted Miranda like a true friend.

My second one sought out Samara as a trusted friend and consort in more ways the one and got shot down

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@Vanguard: Hehe, that was awesome.



@Chignon, yes, you're right about the animation but even the women soldiers I've hung out with did not sit in an overly mannish manner even in uniform. They certainly did not walk or run like men...

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My Shepard is closest to Thane, for obvious reasons.   ^_^  But really, she trusts him with her life and knows he'll be there for her however he can. 

On a friendship level, Holly is closest to Garrus.. but since I have to skip down I'd say Kasumi.  Holly can see that she's a good and caring person.  The thief's sense of humor also keeps her smiling.  She also trusts and respects Samara a great deal.

Holly gets along with everyone on the SR-2 fairly well, but if I had to pick someone she dislikes it would be Zaeed.  She actually respected him a great deal at first, but after what he did on Zorya (resulting in her having to give him a black eye) she is now wary of him.  I still think Zaeed is an awesome character, but that's just how Holly feels about him.

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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


My main Shepard trusts Samara the most of all. It's the disciplined code of the justicar that makes my Ari Shepard feel comfortable. Ari usually knows what Samara will think of each decision Ari makes and if she doesn't know, she can consult the manual, so to speak.

At first, Ari mistrusts Miranda most of all because of Miranda's strong Cerberus loyalties, but although Ari still has her reservations about Miranda's hidden agendas, she warms up to Miranda during the events of ME2. Ari never entirely trusts Jack, but she feels a strong affinity for her. Ari recognizes in Jack a fellow Cerberus guinea pig. She also has some first hand experience of what it is like to be aimless, destructive, and mentally unbalanced. Ari was that way to some extent in the wake of Mindoir... So yeah. She mistrusts Miranda and distrusts Jack, but likes both of them.

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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.


For my main Shepard, Rachel, probably Kasumi, closely followed by Samara and Thane.

For my more Renegade Shepard, Amelia, probably Miranda.

I have a few other Shepards, but they are relatively new and I haven't played through ME2 with them yet.

Vanguard1219 wrote...

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


Rachel:  Zaeed, by far
Amelia:  Jack

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Sialater wrote...

Vanguard1219 wrote...

Yeah, sorry about that :whistle: Let's re-rail this topic ... now.

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


For Avery, Miranda (third, of course, after Tali and Garrus).  For Meghan.... She's not as close to Miranda as Avery is because Meghan doesn't get close to anyone (except the obvious).  Though she really wants to save Jack from herself.  There but for the grace of the Alliance and all that.


Sorry for quoting myself, but I forgot someone.  Meghan probably, outside of Garrus and Tali, trusts/feels closest to Thane.

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Vanguard1219 wrote...
Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


My Shepard was closest to Kasumi. She's not the type to approach people with anything personal. Kasumi was just very observant and doesn't beat around the bush. She says what is on her mind. Alex appreciated that about her and they were able to form a pretty solid friendship. Aside from Kasumi, probably Samara. They have a lot in common.  More than Alex initially realized.

Whoe does Alex dislike? That one is easy. Zaeed. They do not see eye to eye. She's kept him around because she needs all the help she can get.

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re: shep's animations - granted, i can accept that shepard is not overly girly. still, even "mannish"/"tomboyish" women have the sense not to sit legs open in a skirt. i have a friend who is about as boyish as they come, but when she puts on heels, she DOES know how to walk in them. heck, even MEN in heels do not clomp around like shep did in kasumi dlc.

@ vanguard: that was total win - yes, i think this is exactly why they went after shep. 

Sialater wrote...

I think the thing was the Reapers think that the only way she could defeat them was to be a genetic abberation that made her superior.  Instead of just "normal," but with a strong will.


somehow i feel like cerberus did this, too. maybe that's me reading miri's lines that way. everyone seems to take it that shep must be who she is because of her genetics - but what if it really is just an abnormal situation forcing a normal person to do the impossible? sort of reminds me of the "women can't fight like femshep fights/she's totally unrealistic" - it assumes there must be something physical/genetic that makes for heroism. i take it that shep accomplished what he OR she did largely by will alone.

jwalker wrote...

Abby's proudest career moment?
Hijacking the Normandy to fight Saren. But not that fact itself. That's was needed to be done.
She was proud of how her entire crew stood by her. Trust and respect don't come with rank. Those have to be earned on a daily basis. 


NICE! wow. i think i'm going to parrot this. yes - the fact that the crew is that loyal speaks volumes.

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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


Trust? if we're taking out garrus and tali, then Miranda. Oddly enough, Kyrie trusts Miri from the beginning. Miranda is a lot of things, but sneaky does not seem to be one of them. she knows if a shot comes from miri, it will be in broad daylight to the head. by the end, however, she's earned miri's loyalty and it's totally miri.

distrust? Legion. i'm working on the chapter as to why just now. 

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sagequeen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I think the thing was the Reapers think that the only way she could defeat them was to be a genetic abberation that made her superior.  Instead of just "normal," but with a strong will.


somehow i feel like cerberus did this, too. maybe that's me reading miri's lines that way. everyone seems to take it that shep must be who she is because of her genetics - but what if it really is just an abnormal situation forcing a normal person to do the impossible? sort of reminds me of the "women can't fight like femshep fights/she's totally unrealistic" - it assumes there must be something physical/genetic that makes for heroism. i take it that shep accomplished what he OR she did largely by will alone.


Exactly, Cerberus does the same thing.  I think of Shep (at least MY Sheps) more as Horatio Hornblower or Honor Harrington.  An unremarkable individual (except for biotics) in remarkable situations.

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Vanguard1219 wrote...
Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?

If you're implying that Shepard trusts/likes all of her crewmembers from the first game, why would that have to change in ME2? Furthermore, I can't imagine anyone would take someone on a suicide run (or any military mission, for that matter) they don't trust.
To get it out of the way: Lantrun likes and trusts Tali most - she is her beloved (gibbed FTW!) - and Garrus is her best buddy.B)

The new people Lantrun likes most are:
  • Zaeed: he reminds her of her gang days back on earth, in a good way (except for on his loyalty mission, in which she shows him who's boss paragon-style (->sole survivor))
  • Mordin: she doesn't know why but she has a soft spot for him
After their respective loyalty missions at the latest she trusts everyone in her team.

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Sialater wrote...

Exactly, Cerberus does the same thing.  I think of Shep (at least MY Sheps) more as Horatio Hornblower or Honor Harrington.  An unremarkable individual (except for biotics) in remarkable situations.


That's kinda funny, my husband walked in while I was capturing screenies and saw this shot:

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He said it reminded him of Honor Harrington.  ^_^  I never read those books, maybe I should.

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Found a screen of Kyrie Shepard in sagequeen's album which I love.

Retouched and posted with her permission.

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She has such understated beauty <3

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I agree, Ele. She is. <3

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Oh, that's excellent, ELE!

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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


Let's see... Of the old crew, she doesn't trust Joker (damn dirty traitor), Chakwas (Cerberus was not the answer), Garrus (lost her by merely joking they should have joined Cerberus years ago, not to mention the vigilante stunt), or Tali (they were simply never that close to begin with).

Of the new crew, she's closest to Kasumi, though they're not really friends in her eye, and she trusts Jack the most because Jack, unstable and biotic as she is, wears her emotions on her sleeve and can be predicted.  She trusts that Gabby and Ken joined Cerberus because of lies and propaganda on Cerberus' part, but still doesn't approve.  She wants to know Legion better, but isn't sure she can trust them.

She dislikes everyone else in equally vehement measure.  "Most" probably goes to EDI on any given day, because she can hole up in her cabin but she can't get away from someone who is everywhere.

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Aislinn Trista wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Exactly, Cerberus does the same thing.  I think of Shep (at least MY Sheps) more as Horatio Hornblower or Honor Harrington.  An unremarkable individual (except for biotics) in remarkable situations.


That's kinda funny, my husband walked in while I was capturing screenies and saw this shot:

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He said it reminded him of Honor Harrington.  ^_^  I never read those books, maybe I should.


Yes, you should.  Though Honor becomes a God Character in later books, she's still fun to read.  I hope Shep doesn't head in that direction.

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*squee!*

*hugs picture of kyrie*

*compliments ELE profusely*

Love it!

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Vanguard1219 wrote...

Out of the entire crew of the SR-2, which person is your Shepard closest with/does she trust the most? If your answer is Garrus/Tali/ or anyone else from the original Normandy just skip down the line to someone who wasn't there two years ago. People that were with Shepard the first time around are a given.

Conversely, who does your Shepard dislike/distrust the most out of her crew?


Telse trusts Garrus because she knows Garrus looks up to her; she uses that to her advantage to persue a relationship with him, and oddly enough the fact that she can influence him like that makes her feel comforted.

Zora, doesn't trust Jacob, but that's probably because during the first few seconds of the initial meeting with him, he tells her she was dead as dead can be.  That was rather shocking and didn't sit well with her.  Furthermore, he betrayed the Alliance, in her eyes, to join Cerberus, for no reason other than he was tired of BS--to her that seems like a poor reason and that he's easily influenced.
Zora doesn't trust Samara because her views are very black and white.  She respects Samara's lifestyle and reason to become a justicar, but Samara can't see the forest for the trees, which Zora thinks affects her judgement.
Miranda is a lackey for TIM.  Resurrection or not, Zora feels like Miranda's only there to keep Zora under survaillance and prevent her from doing anything outside of TIMs approval.  Miranda has been with Cerberus too long to start having a change of heart, in her opinion.

Zora trusts Legion, oddly enough.  Yeah, he's a geth, but he had the opportunity to shoot her in the face and instead he shot the husks behind her.  She trusts him because all the other geth have simply tried to shoot her, whereas he tries to communicate.  That shows a highly developed sense of sentience and cognitive activity.  
Plus, he's a tech expert, and a bit of a longer on the ship, being a geth and all; except for the geth part, he's somebody she can relate to.
The same with Tali; Zora originally saw as a hyperactive kid, which was endearing, and although she was a squadmate, she wasn't equal.  On the SR-2, Tali is an equal, and Zora definitely respects her tech skills, which far surpass her own.
Kasumi as well.  Kasumi's tactics are a bit underhanded since she's a thief, but she's honest and upfront about it, along with other issues on the ship.
She also trusts Mordin because his ability to ruminate over issues and consider all the possibilities within a situation means that he wouldn't be on her crew if he didn't have confidence in her capabilities or the mission.

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ELE08 wrote...
She has such understated beauty <3


Excellent work, as always :)

She really does...a very timeless elegance.

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okay, ELE, i hope you don't mind, but a random comment on your deviant art page caught my eye and i have to quote it here. you were saying something about playing some other game, realizing it had zero plot, and coming back to Mass Effect. <---totally me and every game for the past few years.

must have satisfactory conclusion in ME3 to shep's story or i will explode!