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sagequeen wrote...

edit: @ jedi - what i found annoying about the jacob romance - all the ME2 romances, honestly, was the "trigger" nature of them. it's off - then you hit a dialog option and turn it on. while ME1's ninja romances could throw people, i did appreciate that interest was shown by the LI and shep could choose to show interest back or not (Granted, interest between romance and friendship was not differentiated, but you know what i mean).

for all that i love ME much, much more than DA, i wish the relational dialog had been more like DA, with friendship options, trigger a romance, and then have it develop over time. that's me.

ME could have handled it better. I always felt the main issue with it in ME wasn't that companions showed interest it's that they did it the second time(!) Shepard came and talked to them. If I were Kaidan I'd be worried silly about being shot down if I just blurted it out there so soon. I also really dislike the "talk 3-4 times = pixel!Sex" approach that the ME team takes, and it only got worse in ME2 because of Shepard's: "Hey, I fancy you so you know we're gonna get nekkid right before the endgame!" writing.

In this respect, I think Dragon Age: Origins blew ME out of the water. Take a classical romance like Leliana - it starts slow, with friendship and mutual respect and then as her past starts to catch up to her, those feelings for the Warden end up becoming something more. The fact that she doesn't confess until her approval is quite high (assuming we don't game the system by spamming Feast Day gifts, ofc) makes the whole thing feel more natural. The cringe-worthy love-scene implementation aside, I always loved how afterwards, Leliana just looks at the Warden when you wake up and simply says: "Hello". It's small, it's unremarkable but it does wonders for the whole thing.

I also liked how they twisted the whole love-scene thing with Morrigan. It's easy to sleep with her, but not easy to get her to fall in love with you, which was a nice change.

So yeah, I don't know - should the ME team swallow their pride and admit that they need to do a slower pace? If they do that, they can kiss the Halo crowd goodbye, but if ME2 really hasn't sold that much more than ME, then it stands to reason they'd sell more ME3 copies if they finally got back in touch with the classic BioWare fanbase? *dreams in vain*

EDIT: Top of page femShep!


She is happy about where we're at [you know the thing we cannot say]

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 12 novembre 2010 - 03:15 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Skyline_Stanza wrote...

Alice is a paragade, so I wouldn't know how she would react to another Shepard of a varying viewpoint.

(pic snip)

Question involving facial structure and all that jazz. I'm going to be remaking Alice when I get ME back. What kinds of eyes animate and express the most? Or does that all depend on the her entire face. At times, like the pic above, Alice will look fine.

Other times, Alice will get these wide eyed stares when she turns her head at a certain angle. Just a fault of the animations or is there a way to make it so she doesn't look all....I think "derpy" is the word I'm looking for.

I get the same thing with lips.  It's hard to make them look good both from the front and in profile -- you get these certain angles where she looks all fish-lipped, or like the victim of a collogen injection gone terribly wrong.

[Skyline_Stanza]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Skyline_Stanza wrote...

Alice is a paragade, so I wouldn't know how she would react to another Shepard of a varying viewpoint.

(pic snip)

Question involving facial structure and all that jazz. I'm going to be remaking Alice when I get ME back. What kinds of eyes animate and express the most? Or does that all depend on the her entire face. At times, like the pic above, Alice will look fine.

Other times, Alice will get these wide eyed stares when she turns her head at a certain angle. Just a fault of the animations or is there a way to make it so she doesn't look all....I think "derpy" is the word I'm looking for.

I get the same thing with lips.  It's hard to make them look good both from the front and in profile -- you get these certain angles where she looks all fish-lipped, or like the victim of a collogen injection gone terribly wrong.

I was a little miffed at her lips as well, though I'm kind of coming around to thier size. At times, they look like their stretched a lot. Other times, they look fine. Curse you, Mass Effect and your character angles!



And then there was this LITTLE line at the corner of her mouth that I want to get rid of, because I think it makes her look...REALLY aged at times, when she's got shadows on her face or when she gets angry. She's...what...31? She should have those kinds of marks yet...I dont think?

EDIT: [Censored, but HURRAH none the less.]

Modifié par Skyline_Stanza, 12 novembre 2010 - 03:34 .

[Fraevar]

SHHHHH, Skyline! We're not allowed to talk about the [number] in here. Pacifien's orders!

[Skyline_Stanza]

Oops! My goof! How come?

[Fraevar]

Gorgeous Kathryn pose is gorgeous

As for Shai - those eyes get me everytime. I always expect her to grab me(or whatever poor guy she's facing in-game) by the shoulders and just go: "Be with meeee foreveeeeeerrrr" in that classic spooky voice. Cyborg vampires are on the loose, flee!

[Skyline_Stanza]

rynluna wrote...

Apparently, announcing [that thing we can't name] creates competition amongst other fanbases.  What competition, you say?  FemShep is in a league of her own.   

I'll show Dumbo ears some love too. 

I get an "ORLY" vibe from this, but not like, a noticeable vibe, if that makes sense. It's...subtle, and not too showy. I love her eyes. Illusive's right?

[ADLegend21]

rynluna wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

It hink you should ahve kept the old
eyes but that's just me. the new one is more iconic because she's the
one you gave all the love to, so seeing the old one is kinda refreshing.
Thanks for sharing! I tried giving Kallen a make over...but...it just
wasn't the same.

Really?  lol!  That's the one thing that bugs me the most about her old face.  Her new eyes completely melt me.  I can't even recreate them now if I wanted to.

Yeah, those are the eyes I use for Kallen because when femshep is angry they're amazing.

[ADLegend21]

Wow [that thing we can't name] and psh other fanbases ccan think they ahve competition, but we have the main friggen character!!!!

Kallen's take on "competition":

[M3cHr3p71l]

Hello everybody!

@Sable Phoenix

I know that we have already spoken about this a week ago (began at 447) and I ‘m late but I hadn't replied yet and I want to do.

Firstly,

avalon30 wrote...
I hear ya. You'd be interested to read this, I think.

Thanks for the link avalon

Sable Phoenix wrote...
...
I'm saying gender stereotypes exist because of the differences in gender, not that gender stereotypes define those differences.

Sable, your point of view is interesting but, I think that it is incomplete if you don't add the influence of the society in us. Part of their bases areinherent elements  to the human condition: empathy, confidence, justice,envy, greed... these vices or virtues are shared by women and men, that one is more susceptible than other to each one, maybe; sometimes yes, sometimes not. We must not generalize.  But finally  our life's experiences
and  education can / not promote their appearance.

Here, d2O Sapphire hits the nail on the head, again.

Well, as you have said, it's not a thread about differences or not between women and men, so I leave this interesting discussion to give place to one much more interesting.

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It started with an attack, it was so fast...; The Normandy, the diamond of the human fleet, now  was the prey struck by a mysterious hunter and agonized waiting for a final hit; "Emergency protocol activated". In despite of this Commander Kara Shepard knew perfectly what she have to do when he said to her that Joker was in the pilot cab yet. She didn't hesitate in any moment -"Get out !. I 'm going to bring him !".

At that moment, Kara is my hero.

I like so much your determination and courage, your personality, your intelligence and cleverness, your behaviour and way act, your movements....Definitely, I love you.

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When I heard that FemShep is written as male (if it I hadn't heard, I wouldn't have known), firstly I confused it and I interpreted in another way, but what you were really saying is that  MaleShep "copy" and "paste" in FemShep.

The problem isn't what Shepard does or how Shepard does it. The problem is that they (Bioware) don't involved with FemShep as they do with MaleShep. If they really have done all with MaleShep in mind and after they have"pasted" it in FemShep, (explained: She hasn't had a independent development), Bioware, change your attitude NOW.

Other way, maybe they have taken a neutral position and build the characters from it, not think about one more than other.  

I think Shepard's behaviour is neutral, however it is precisely what makes us our doubt
because we are accustomed to see some of these neutral roles in male characters.

Sable Phoenix wrote...

I know she doesn't, it's just the subtext.  It feels awkward.  Even more awkward than her outright propositioning of Garrus, actually.  Would you really try to tell someone you are attracted to that you want an intimate relationship with them right after they have just shared with you how their first spouse was brutally murdered and they've been carrying the guilt and pain of that for all the years since?  Really?

I was exaggerating for effect, but even without the exaggeration, it comes off as Shep just being... insensitive.

Sable Phoenix wrote...
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I think they were trying for a sexy/passive female stereotype and it just does not jive with the take-charge personality that Shep is.  Cognitive dissonance.

At the beginning of the relationship, Shepard could be shocking but it is far from a female stereotype. Her aggressive beginning is not usual and if you are looking for a serious relationship this feels you like a shot; OK,Bioware should change it (as other more things) and offer other ways, but it isn’t a stereotyped behaviour.

The relationship (not only love) is a essential part of the Shepard’s life as other human. The question is not they “generalize” sensibility, the important way is how it appears, sprout and make progress when really we need. IT is the true and not forced sensibility.

A good example is LotSB, Loving her or friendship (last in my case). According to they are closer to SB, Shepard and Liara’s relationship have a complex evolution that has his culminating moment after the battle against SB… One of the best games’ dramatic moments in years, sure.

Modifié par M3cHr3p71l, 12 novembre 2010 - 04:33 .

[Skyline_Stanza]

Just something I'd thought I'd share. I love the ending to Jacob's loyalty mission. Alice just finished it last night with Tali in tow. (I thought it made for neat little story in my head, seeing is how I had just done Tali's recruitment mission beforehand and the small hostility with "saying hello to EDI" afterwords.)

Taking down the YMIR mech was a b!itch.....even on Casual...which speaks to how much of a gamer I am.

Anyway, I don't know why, but I love the interaction and dialouge between Illusive, Alice, Jacob and Miranda in that scene. It just flows really well for me.

Illusive:...I would be smiling at your resolution. I am not smiling.
Alice: Really? Because given the result, it seems like something you'd have your hands in.
Jacob: Fine, so you didn't forward it. Then who did?
Miranda: *steps into scene* I did.
* a pause at this settles in. Illusive takes another drag of his cigarette.*
Alice: Was this supposed to be a favor or did you just want to see him squirm?

I dunno, the dialouge there just really flowed. Is there any other scene in ME2 where you thought the same? Where the dialouge just sort of...fit? Anyone?

Modifié par Skyline_Stanza, 12 novembre 2010 - 04:23 .

[M3cHr3p71l]

I don't want this!!!!!!!!

[Skyline_Stanza]

M3cHr3p71l wrote...

I don't want this!!!!!!!!

Is there something wrong with your computer or set up? You post is....sort of long...no offense.

[M3cHr3p71l]

Srry!!
I  HAVE MISTAKEN. I don't know why it appears in this way!!!!!!!!!!

I have already FIX IT!

Modifié par M3cHr3p71l, 12 novembre 2010 - 04:35 .

[Chignon]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

*snip*
Indra Shepard--Mythology book to the rescue yet again! Indra is the Hindu king of gods which suits this Shepard's personality just fine. I think it can be very appealing to have a female character with a typically male-designated name.

No pictures, Flies?

[sagefic]

 A toast to the [information suppressed] of the Femshep Thread!



I just realized that by plugging in a second monitor I messed up my graphics settings. I'll have to replay a section of Overlord now to get non-pixelated screenies. Ah, the things I do for femshep. 

[M3cHr3p71l]

#500

CONGRATULATIONS!

[Reverie]

I do that too Sage. I replayed Horizon to get screen shots, since the first time I played I didn't even have fraps loaded up.

Modifié par Reverie, 12 novembre 2010 - 04:39 .

[Sialater]

M3cH: You can't say that!



Have a Jho FemShep art instead.

[Fraevar]

M3cHr3p71l wrote...

[censored]!

Stop mentioning the number, it is against the rules (as we have now pointed out 4 times on this page). Don't provide the mods with a reason for locking us down!

Modifié par Delerius_Jedi, 12 novembre 2010 - 04:40 .