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[Addai]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I don't like the scars, at all. On my one experimental full-renegade run I let them go. It got to the point where I couldn't even look at my character without cringing. I went to the med-bay and healed them as soon as I'd had enough. Aside from it making no sense, why bother designing a Shep that looks good if you're going that route?

Moira looked OK with a little light scaring, but she is extremely vain. Doesn't fit into her character to leave them or let them get horrendous.

Ok but see, you made a roleplay choice there.  Whereas I did not think my femShep would waste ship resources to fix her face, especially when Garrus never gets his fixed.  To her it's an insult that Cerberus is willing to spend limitless amounts of money on her but not on an alien ship member.

I like having things like that where you have to think about how your character operates and what's important to her.  I also don't think they make a character "fugly," though I did not go full renegade and she did look pretty bad on her bad days- mostly because of the bruising around her eyes.  I like a character who's been to hell and back to look like it, not look like a fashion model.  To each her own, of course.  I'm just glad they had some options in there.

Edit:  This was my Shepard at the final.

Modifié par Addai67, 10 janvier 2011 - 12:17 .

[Addai]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

The Little Black Dress (Kasumi Loyalty) shows that her arms, legs, and shoulders are all silky-smooth. There are other outfits which are more revealing if you mod a little. There's also the shower scene in the Garrus romance.

I hated the dress so that was no issue for me.  You also only see her head in the shower scene.

[Aeowyn]

rynluna wrote...

Thank you, Aeowyn!

No problem. But I just realised something, you could've just opened a previous save where she still had that hair in gibbs and gotten the hair codes that way hah. My slow brain is slow

[Shenzi]

ELE08 wrote...

AkodoRyu wrote...

I hate the scars... Everytime I see them, I have the urge to stick my nails into them and peel the skin off little by little...

Umm, errr

I would like to clarify.  I do like the way scarring looks on some Sheps.  I don't like how it's tied to morality.  Nonsensical psuedoscience.

It makes sense at the beginning since Cerberus rebuilt her and she's has quite a bit of machine in her, and they do say she was woken up early.  After that, not so much.  They should heal the same regardless of morality.  But, it is a game.  And they wanted to tie it into the game mechanics.  So it's not that huge a deal.

This is how I feel as well.

I like the scars from a story point of view regarding the reconstruction itself, I don't however like that they're tied into paragon or renegade scores.

[Addai]

Chignon wrote...

They would be a meaningful reminder if someone would acknowledge and comment on them. But apparently it's no big deal in the Mass Effect universe. Just like dying and being resurrected. What? It happens every day.

??  Plenty of people comment on the fact you were dead.  C Sec, your old squad members, in your discussions with TIM and Miranda.

Don't get it.  I didn't see the Lazarus project as something thrown in.  Already in ME1 you were encountering Cerberus, especially as sole survivor, and now you're deep in bed with them whether you want to be or not.  There's a lot of story potential there.  Dunno, I'm just a n00b and mostly unconcerned.  I guess I enjoyed the games for what they were because I had rather low expectations tbh.

[Aeowyn]

Addai67 wrote...

Chignon wrote...

They would be a meaningful reminder if someone would acknowledge and comment on them. But apparently it's no big deal in the Mass Effect universe. Just like dying and being resurrected. What? It happens every day.

??  Plenty of people comment on the fact you were dead.  C Sec, your old squad members, in your discussions with TIM and Miranda.

Don't get it.  I didn't see the Lazarus project as something thrown in.  Already in ME1 you were encountering Cerberus, especially as sole survivor, and now you're deep in bed with them whether you want to be or not.  There's a lot of story potential there.  Dunno, I'm just a n00b and mostly unconcerned.  I guess I enjoyed the games for what they were because I had rather low expectations tbh.

I think Chig means the scars Addai not the fact that Shep was dead.

(OT: Holy crap you have a Loghain sig now! )

Modifié par Aeowyn, 10 janvier 2011 - 12:30 .

[leggywillow]

Calla S wrote...

And taking the time and putting the effort into mining for that much platinum just to make yourself all pretty again? It didn't make much sense from Stella's angle.

I don't think it's just to be pretty again... it probably gets pretty alarming when your skin starts looking like chunks of flesh are literally about to fall off your face at any second.  That's not a cosmetic thing; that's a pretty serious health issue.  Like yukidama said, it reminds me of peeling the skin off an orange or something.  ::shudders:: 

[Chignon]

Addai67 wrote...

??  Plenty of people comment on the fact you were dead.  C Sec, your old squad members, in your discussions with TIM and Miranda.

Don't get it.  I didn't see the Lazarus project as something thrown in.  Already in ME1 you were encountering Cerberus, especially as sole survivor, and now you're deep in bed with them whether you want to be or not.  There's a lot of story potential there.  Dunno, I'm just a n00b and mostly unconcerned.  I guess I enjoyed the games for what they were because I had rather low expectations tbh.

Shepard dying has no impact on the story, not on the people around Shepard ("Shepard, I thought you were dead! Oh well. See, I have this important mission here ...") and not on Shepard herself ("Shepard, I thought you were dead!" "I got better.").

I expected something a bit more profound.

Also I don't see why dealing with Cerberus in ME1 makes Project Lazarus look like a good idea.

[Sunnie]

I actually think scars would make Shepard look more in character, but what we have in ME2 are not scars, nor do they even remotely look like scars... they look like somebody took the top of a can opener and grooved a bunch of lines into their face...

[Captain Crash]

Chignon wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

??  Plenty of people comment on the fact you were dead.  C Sec, your old squad members, in your discussions with TIM and Miranda.

Don't get it.  I didn't see the Lazarus project as something thrown in.  Already in ME1 you were encountering Cerberus, especially as sole survivor, and now you're deep in bed with them whether you want to be or not.  There's a lot of story potential there.  Dunno, I'm just a n00b and mostly unconcerned.  I guess I enjoyed the games for what they were because I had rather low expectations tbh.

Shepard dying has no impact on the story, not on the people around Shepard ("Shepard, I thought you were dead! Oh well. See, I have this important mission here ...") and not on Shepard herself ("Shepard, I thought you were dead!" "I got better.").

I expected something a bit more profound.

Also I don't see why dealing with Cerberus in ME1 makes Project Lazarus look like a good idea.

*Wearing Full body Blood Dragon Armour*  
"Shepard is that you? wow its so good to see you!!! I thought you were dead!"

"I got better"  

I think most of us have come to the point now where we blindly except stuff like that.  Even the working for Cerberus stuff.  Everyone hated Cerberus at the end of ME with good reason.

How did Bioware attempt to win us over... (well other then Lazarus which was just a way to manipulate) They had Miranda say one line of "oh that was a different division of Cerberus, all cells act alone".  

So glad I blew up that base.  I swear if I even hear the Illusive man again in ME3 Im shooting him!  I can do this my own way now.  If I end up following ANY of the Illusive Mans leads or suggestions again I swear I will scream!! 

Modifié par Captain Crash, 10 janvier 2011 - 12:50 .

[NM7]

I'm not a fan of the scars. They're all right at the start of the game, but if you go full on renegade, they just look utterly stupid. The other thing I don't really get is why there's an orange glow under the skin! Did they use molten lava as part of the procedure to remake her?

The scars in the first game are a nice little addition and add a bit of character to your Shepard. The scars in ME2 are just pointless. If they actually had a use then I could forgive them, but they do nothing at all.

I really should find out how to remove them from the off next time I go through ME2.

As for the whole "death" thing. If it turns out to be anything other than a giant reset button, I'd be very surprised.

[Addai]

Chignon wrote...
Shepard dying has no impact on the story, not on the people around Shepard ("Shepard, I thought you were dead! Oh well. See, I have this important mission here ...") and not on Shepard herself ("Shepard, I thought you were dead!" "I got better.").

I expected something a bit more profound.

Also I don't see why dealing with Cerberus in ME1 makes Project Lazarus look like a good idea.

Well the story is the Reapers taking over mankind, so it does have an impact because if that threat were not out there Shepard would have stayed dead.

I never said dealing with Cerberus in ME1 makes Lazarus a good idea.  It makes it more of a conflict, in fact.  You've seen that Cerberus is very shady, but without them you'd be dead and have no ship.  So you're forced to deal with the devil.  At least that was how I approached it with a sole survivor PC.

Did you want Shepard to have a nervous breakdown or something?

[Shadow_Soul]

*decloaks*
Well either way, for the scars, I still like them. And if people dislike them so much, that's what fanfics are for....right? (Maybe one where she was finished then woke up, the ME2 story line would be very different if somebody wrote a story like that)
*recloaks*

[Addai]

Sunnie22 wrote...

I actually think scars would make Shepard look more in character, but what we have in ME2 are not scars, nor do they even remotely look like scars... they look like somebody took the top of a can opener and grooved a bunch of lines into their face...

The faces and hair look plastic anyway, so that didn't bother me.  I agree they're a bit random.

Shepard probably should have had some major pain to deal with.  That could have been an added story line, that she has to choose how much to drug herself.

@Shadow_Soul, agreed, not sure why people get upset about something that ends up being completely optional.  *shrug*

Modifié par Addai67, 10 janvier 2011 - 01:18 .

[NM7]

Addai67 wrote...

@Shadow_Soul, agreed, not sure why people get upset about something that ends up being completely optional.  *shrug*

I don't think anyone's getting upset over the scars. The question was; Do you like the scars on your Shepard? If everyone gave a one word Yes/No answer that wouldn't be much of a discussion. People are just expressing their opinion. If you like the scars, then more power to you. But other people don't and that's their choice.

[Chignon]

Addai67 wrote...

Well the story is the Reapers taking over mankind, so it does have an impact because if that threat were not out there Shepard would have stayed dead.

The story is about Reapers abducting human colonies to build a baby Reaper. And no, it would have had impact if Shepard was vital to the main story. Shepard did nothing that anyone else with sufficient leadership and combat skills couldn't have done. With the story being like it is, it doesn't make sense to kill Shepard off and destroy the Normandy only to rebuild them - well, other than desperately needing a reset button.

I never said dealing with Cerberus in ME1 makes Lazarus a good idea.  It makes it more of a conflict, in fact.  You've seen that Cerberus is very shady, but without them you'd be dead and have no ship.  So you're forced to deal with the devil.  At least that was how I approached it with a sole survivor PC.

Forced being the keyword here. I don't like how Shepard was railroaded into working for Cerberus in the first place. What creates conflict in your eyes is a cheesy plot device to make ME2 a stand-alone game in my eyes.

you want Shepard to have a nervous breakdown or something?

I don't recall saying or implying that. No, I wanted Shepard to act like a human being and not like a brick.

[Shadow_Soul]

*uncloaks again*
@Addai67
Yes. You can fix them with future tech, be a full on paragon, have no glow with paragade, have a little glow with renegon or have a full on glow by being a renegade. You have 5 choices on what to do. I have read many threads about people complaining about the renegade scars (I think some people said they look sorta like something from Star Wars.) I just don't understand why people waste time and energy fighting about scars. Oh well...

About the scars only on her face, again, fanfiction. (I wrote one where Lili had them all over her body.)

@Chig
Emotions for ME3! No more Shepard with no emotion. (There is only 3 people who cry in the whole game, if you don't romance 2 of them and don't buy the DLC then nobody dries. They are all emotionless alot of the time.)

(If this is off topic, I'll fix that with a pick of Lia, ya know just in case)
"What about scars? I was busy killing the mercs."
*recloaks so nobody can see her*

Modifié par Shadow_Soul, 10 janvier 2011 - 01:39 .

[ELE08]

I'm sure it's assumed there is scarring all over Shep's body. They're just not going to make every single body mesh compatible with the different levels of scarring. They don't work that way. Besides, the armors don't show skin. The casual outfits you get without modding are mostly covered. The LBD is from DLC. And the nude mesh is not meant to be seen in-game. Of course it has no scarring. It doesn't have nipples either. Talk about nitpicking.

[adneate]

Addai67 wrote...
Well the story is the Reapers taking over mankind, so it does have an impact because if that threat were not out there Shepard would have stayed dead.

However if they didn't kill Shepard off in the first 5 minutes of ME2 then they wouldn't need to bring in this contrived and pointless resurrection machine.

The reaction from almost everyone to the fact that Shepard was dead and now alive again is just unrealistic, if your dead parent or grandparent suddenly showed up again you wouldn't just go "Oh wow you were dead but now you're alive again, wanna get a burger?". Which is essentially how most, of the very few, interactions play out.

Shepard's reaction is also kinda strange, she's now a cyborg pumped full of synthetic parts. Yet she and everyone else doesn't really see this as an issue, she doesn't even stop to think if she's even still a human being or just a semi-synthetic organism in the shape of a human being. Instead we get a Monty Python Reference, maybe I'm being too needy but I kinda expected more.