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How Morrigan can get the child even if you refuse the ritual


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druplesnubb

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HEAVY SPOILERS FOR ORIGINS
There are a lot of hints that the future games will focuse on Morrigan's child (probably not DA2 since the ckid will be less than ten years even at the end of the game but maybe in DA3 or 4) Now this could turn problematic because a lot of people didn't agree to do the ritual with her or didn't take her to the tower even if they did the ritual, but I don't think that would really have stopped her.

Now, even if you and Alistair/Loghain refuse to do it with her there is still a third warden, Riordan. Morrigan could probably have convinced him that they needed another person who could kill the Archdemon or just seduced him without mentioning the ritual.
Now when she has been impregnated she has to get to the top of Fort drakon unseen. Now since she is a shapeshifter, this isn't really all that hard. She even mentions turning into a bird in a conversation with Shale and if she can turn to a swarm of insects she can probably turn into a single insect too. And that's not even mentioning all other forms she could have without mentioning us. So she flies up to Fort Drakon and waits until you or Alistair or Loghain kills the Archdemon. Now she uses her magic to kill the warden slaying the Archdemon in a way that you can't see he/she was killed by someone else and absorbing the soul into the child. She then flies away while everyone thinks Urthemiel is gone for real. She has now gotten what she wanted while fooling everyone at the same time.

So what do you think about it? Does it sound plausible?

EDIT: something I forgot to add

You never see the warden who slays the archdemon die (and there is even a
giant flash effect to prevent the ingame onlookers from seeing
anything) so it's possible that Morrigan killed the warden with a spell
to make it look like nothing was out of place.

Modifié par druplesnubb, 19 juillet 2010 - 07:13 .


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David Gaider

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May I put this to rest?

If the player didn't do the Dark Ritual, or didn't get Alistair or Loghain to do it, then it wasn't done. Had Morrigan figured out some way to otherwise do it, then nobody would have died when the Archdemon was slain. If she had some way to go about getting the Archdemon's soul without resorting to the Dark Ritual as she proposed it, then why did she go through all the trouble?

We could undoubtedly come up with some complex Plan B on Morrigan's part whereby she gets the Archdemon's soul but has to do something far more terrible-- but a) that removes the player's agency in the biggest single choice of Origins and B) would probably be pretty lame.

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David Gaider

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RosaAquafire wrote...
tl;dr: dark ritual is a big deal. Will the implications of it never come into the light?

I guess you'll have to wait and see, won't you? :devil:

Zhijn wrote...
How do a players savegame import work if they did the sacrifice in DAO but voila appeared alive again in Awakening (if im not mistaken, Awakening is a critical import aswell right?).

Do
you default the ending that the Warden made the choice of giving a
child to Morrigan or will it just be one of thouse unexplained mysteries
that'll never be mention about the Warden?. =)


Your Warden was not resurrected in-game. If you imported a DS Warden into Awakening, then you chose to un-do your earlier decision. As to whether you can un-un-do it again when importing into DA2, I really don't have an answer for that yet, sorry.

Modifié par David Gaider, 22 juillet 2010 - 01:35 .