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[Kastagir]

While it is perfectly understandable to be upset with the way Bioware has seemingly abandoned Dragon Age:Origins in favor of the sequel, it is not at all acceptable or appropriate to call others idiots for buying future Bioware products. Coming from a PC-exclusive perspective, I have higher expectations for game design and support, so it shouldn't be hard to understand my disappointment with the current state of DA:O on the PC platform. Personally, I would urge against rewarding Bioware for abandoning us DA:O fans in favor of what appears to be a console-focused and technically inferior sequel that is certain to suffer from the same broken promises that have plagued its predecessor - but everyone is free to do as they wish.

[TMZuk]

Kastagir wrote...

While it is perfectly understandable to be upset with the way Bioware has seemingly abandoned Dragon Age:Origins in favor of the sequel, it is not at all acceptable or appropriate to call others idiots for buying future Bioware products. Coming from a PC-exclusive perspective, I have higher expectations for game design and support, so it shouldn't be hard to understand my disappointment with the current state of DA:O on the PC platform. Personally, I would urge against rewarding Bioware for abandoning us DA:O fans in favor of what appears to be a console-focused and technically inferior sequel that is certain to suffer from the same broken promises that have plagued its predecessor - but everyone is free to do as they wish.

Well put.

There's not a chance I'll buy DA2 as longs as DA:O is in this appalling state.

Admittedly, there's very little about DA2 that excites me anyway, but still... any chance I would have bought it because I like Bioware games is out the window.

[Stippling]

Kastagir wrote...

While it is perfectly understandable to be upset with the way Bioware has seemingly abandoned Dragon Age:Origins in favor of the sequel, it is not at all acceptable or appropriate to call others idiots for buying future Bioware products. Coming from a PC-exclusive perspective, I have higher expectations for game design and support, so it shouldn't be hard to understand my disappointment with the current state of DA:O on the PC platform. Personally, I would urge against rewarding Bioware for abandoning us DA:O fans in favor of what appears to be a console-focused and technically inferior sequel that is certain to suffer from the same broken promises that have plagued its predecessor - but everyone is free to do as they wish.

There are plenty of fan-made patches that solve the small glitches with the game. Not sure where these immense, game-breaking problems are that you've experienced, but across my multiple playthroughs I've never experienced something SO major to the game that it ruined it for me. Sure the occasional dialogue line gets goofed up. Seriously though, if you're not willing to look past it and are not willing to look for external solutions, then you are just as much to blame. Patching is a free service. bioware is a company. They're not going to stall their new product to freely fix their old one.

Shortly diverting to the comment about Dragon Age 2, you really have to do some research before you say that. The gameplay is the same, but more polished. You're doing yourself a disservice writing it off so easily.

Many major companies spend LESS resources patching their games which usually have much more game-breaking bugs attached to it.

Modifié par Stippling, 13 février 2011 - 11:08 .

[TMZuk]

Stippling wrote...

Kastagir wrote...

While it is perfectly understandable to be upset with the way Bioware has seemingly abandoned Dragon Age:Origins in favor of the sequel, it is not at all acceptable or appropriate to call others idiots for buying future Bioware products. Coming from a PC-exclusive perspective, I have higher expectations for game design and support, so it shouldn't be hard to understand my disappointment with the current state of DA:O on the PC platform. Personally, I would urge against rewarding Bioware for abandoning us DA:O fans in favor of what appears to be a console-focused and technically inferior sequel that is certain to suffer from the same broken promises that have plagued its predecessor - but everyone is free to do as they wish.

There are plenty of fan-made patches that solve the small glitches with the game. Not sure where these immense, game-breaking problems are that you've experienced, but across my multiple playthroughs I've never experienced something SO major to the game that it ruined it for me. Sure the occasional dialogue line gets goofed up. Seriously though, if you're not willing to look past it and are not willing to look for external solutions, then you are just as much to blame. Patching is a free service. bioware is a company. They're not going to stall their new product to freely fix their old one.

Shortly diverting to the comment about Dragon Age 2, you really have to do some research before you say that. The gameplay is the same, but more polished. You're doing yourself a disservice writing it off so easily.

Many major companies spend LESS resources patching their games which usually have much more game-breaking bugs attached to it.

One: The "small glitches" are the constant crashes to desktop. They are incredibly annoying, and always happens in pitched battles. It is simply beyond belief that they abandon the game in such an appaling state. It is the bugged siverite mines in Awakening. It is numorous errors and glitches, which it is not the community's job to adress, but EA/Bioware's. And it is most assuredly their duty to address these errors. If I buy a stereo that shuts itself down every tenth minute, or each time I play a loud passage, I return it to the dealer, and demand a working product, or a refund.

Two: The gameplay in DA2 is far from the same. The artwork looks like a cheap comic-book. Warriors can't dual-wield or use a bow. Rogues can only dual-wield with two daggers, or use a bow. Simplified, dumbed down and leaving all RPG features begind. DA2 is a squad-based combat game, with interactive movie-bits in between the battles. Nothing to do with an RPG.

Modifié par TMZuk, 13 février 2011 - 11:41 .

[Stippling]

TMZuk wrote...

Stippling wrote...

Kastagir wrote...

While it is perfectly understandable to be upset with the way Bioware has seemingly abandoned Dragon Age:Origins in favor of the sequel, it is not at all acceptable or appropriate to call others idiots for buying future Bioware products. Coming from a PC-exclusive perspective, I have higher expectations for game design and support, so it shouldn't be hard to understand my disappointment with the current state of DA:O on the PC platform. Personally, I would urge against rewarding Bioware for abandoning us DA:O fans in favor of what appears to be a console-focused and technically inferior sequel that is certain to suffer from the same broken promises that have plagued its predecessor - but everyone is free to do as they wish.

There are plenty of fan-made patches that solve the small glitches with the game. Not sure where these immense, game-breaking problems are that you've experienced, but across my multiple playthroughs I've never experienced something SO major to the game that it ruined it for me. Sure the occasional dialogue line gets goofed up. Seriously though, if you're not willing to look past it and are not willing to look for external solutions, then you are just as much to blame. Patching is a free service. bioware is a company. They're not going to stall their new product to freely fix their old one.

Shortly diverting to the comment about Dragon Age 2, you really have to do some research before you say that. The gameplay is the same, but more polished. You're doing yourself a disservice writing it off so easily.

Many major companies spend LESS resources patching their games which usually have much more game-breaking bugs attached to it.

One: The "small glitches" are the constant crashes to desktop. They are incredibly annoying, and always happens in pitched battles. It is simply beyond belief that they abandon the game in such an appaling state. It is the bugged siverite mines in Awakening. It is numorous errors and glitches, which it is not the community's job to adress, but EA/Bioware's. And it is most assuredly their duty to address these errors. If I buy a stereo that shuts itself down every tenth minute, or each time I play a loud passage, I return it to the dealer, and demand a working product, or a refund.

Two: The gameplay in DA2 is far from the same. The artwork looks like a cheap comic-book. Warriors can't dual-wield or use a bow. Rogues can only dual-wield with two daggers, or use a bow. Simplified, dumbed down and leaving all RPG features begind. DA2 is a squad-based combat game, with interactive movie-bits in between the battles. Nothing to do with an RPG.

Eh, I've never had a CTD from Dragon Age, so I'm no one to talk to. but if that's something your experiencing then I'm sorry to hear that. I just have a hard time considering it a bug/glitch when it isn't something experienced by everyone, or a majority. I've met a lot of people who had zero technical issues with the game, so who knows. At any rate, best of luck and I hope you change your mind about DA2. I'll stop the DA2 talk so the mods don't swoop in.

[Captain Sassy Pants]

TMZuk wrote...

Stippling wrote...

Kastagir wrote...

While it is perfectly understandable to be upset with the way Bioware has seemingly abandoned Dragon Age:Origins in favor of the sequel, it is not at all acceptable or appropriate to call others idiots for buying future Bioware products. Coming from a PC-exclusive perspective, I have higher expectations for game design and support, so it shouldn't be hard to understand my disappointment with the current state of DA:O on the PC platform. Personally, I would urge against rewarding Bioware for abandoning us DA:O fans in favor of what appears to be a console-focused and technically inferior sequel that is certain to suffer from the same broken promises that have plagued its predecessor - but everyone is free to do as they wish.

There are plenty of fan-made patches that solve the small glitches with the game. Not sure where these immense, game-breaking problems are that you've experienced, but across my multiple playthroughs I've never experienced something SO major to the game that it ruined it for me. Sure the occasional dialogue line gets goofed up. Seriously though, if you're not willing to look past it and are not willing to look for external solutions, then you are just as much to blame. Patching is a free service. bioware is a company. They're not going to stall their new product to freely fix their old one.

Shortly diverting to the comment about Dragon Age 2, you really have to do some research before you say that. The gameplay is the same, but more polished. You're doing yourself a disservice writing it off so easily.

Many major companies spend LESS resources patching their games which usually have much more game-breaking bugs attached to it.

One: The "small glitches" are the constant crashes to desktop. They are incredibly annoying, and always happens in pitched battles. It is simply beyond belief that they abandon the game in such an appaling state. It is the bugged siverite mines in Awakening. It is numorous errors and glitches, which it is not the community's job to adress, but EA/Bioware's. And it is most assuredly their duty to address these errors. If I buy a stereo that shuts itself down every tenth minute, or each time I play a loud passage, I return it to the dealer, and demand a working product, or a refund.

Two: The gameplay in DA2 is far from the same. The artwork looks like a cheap comic-book. Warriors can't dual-wield or use a bow. Rogues can only dual-wield with two daggers, or use a bow. Simplified, dumbed down and leaving all RPG features begind. DA2 is a squad-based combat game, with interactive movie-bits in between the battles. Nothing to do with an RPG.

This is how I feel as well.

I get constant crashes (Origins is not compatible with Windows 7 64 bit, and also has a problem with quad-core systems). This alone should be reason enough to patch, but all of the little things like the ancient elven boots not in Lothering like they should be on the PC version, the boots and gloves for the rogue armor in Awakening not implemented (Black Blade? Something like that), etc need to be addressed as well, and not by the community. It's not their job. Besides that supremely valid point, the community can only fix the PC version. What are the console players supposed to do?

I would not touch another of their games until they fix the last product they put out. Spending money on their new games, or passing off the responsibility to someone else (ie the community) only encourages them to continue this kind of shameful abandonment. They have enough yes-men and apologists, there's no need to become one too. 

Modifié par Captain Sassy Pants, 18 février 2011 - 02:39 .

[Aidunno]

First off I would like to say I am another who has regular crashes to desktop (mainly when using spells like mana clash), running Windows 7 64bit. However I am now playing on an upgraded computer. When playing on my old system (32 bit) I never had the problem. Windows 7 64bit was not one of the supported platforms on release so it's not really suprising that they are not patching it as a priority. Is is annoying.. yes... is it understandable... also yes.



The other glitches are annoying but hardly game breaking and to give credit bioware at least took time to patch some major issues as soon as possible.



I have no problems thinking about buying DA2 (actually on pre-order) as I am sure I will get a good, stable game.

[ShinsFortress]

Stippling wrote...

There are plenty of fan-made patches that solve the small glitches with the game.

No there aren't.  Especially not since 1.04.  Qwinn was the best one out there, but he's not updated for 1.04.  And a lot of people experience quite a lot worse than "small glitches".

[EnterEsc]

hello, i just installed the v1.04 patch of DA: O but now i cant upgrade my party, i cant expend any level up points.

help plz, should i reinstall¿?

[EnterEsc]

now i cant even attack or be attacked.

also tryed to install patch .03 and 02, but it didnt worked...

[ShinsFortress]

Not enough info really. Maybe you should start a single thread, in the right forum*, about your problem. Please read the FAQs for some notes on recommended ways to report things.

* http://social.biowar...tegory/58/index

Modifié par ShinsFortress, 20 février 2011 - 05:06 .

[Fatalitubby]

Is there any way to uninstall patch 1.04 without deleting save games?

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Fatalitubby wrote...

Is there any way to uninstall patch 1.04 without deleting save games?

Sort of.  You have to do a complete UNINSTALL  of the game, but tick the "Keep Characters and Saves" box, then REINSTALL  the game.

You will then encounter two "new" problems.
 
1.  BioWare doesn't make previous patches available on its site.  So unless you have your own stand-alone copy of whichever one you do  want, you'll be stuck at game version 1.0.

2.  All the DLC after TSP  requires a later version of the game, with GoA  and WH  requiring v1.04!

But why would you want to remove 1.04?  The only issue with it of which I'm aware comes if you're using "Advanced Tactics" or another mod that uses elements of the AI that were introduced with 1.03, then accidently reverted to the 1.02 version as part of 1.04.  (Yes, the devs admitted it was an accident, but there's no "fix-the-fix".)

[alex_34]

How many people are using Vista and windows 7 on there computers? cos ive noticed it seems to be most of the people in this thread using vista or windows 7



Using 1.02a patch and i have 0 crashes.



My comp uses



Windows XP 64bit edition

Quad core processor Intel Core 2 Q9550 running at 2.83Ghz per core

8GB RAM

SLI NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (1GB VRAM i think)



made a backup of me 1.02a version on my external last night and installed 1.04 this morning



1.02a my CPU was running at 89%

1.04 my cpu was running at 96%

seems to be very little diffirence here for me.



Let you guys know if i get any crashes etc to see if it isn't only Vista and windows 7 who get these problems since i only just started playing.



Fatalitubby (sorry if spelt wrong my eyes arnt what they used to be) way to uninstall a patch without losing ur save games is to make a backup of your bioware folder in my documents before installing the 1.04 patch. Also think the custom mods etc go in there too so u aint gotta waste alot of time reinstalling those again either. Well for PC version anyway i don't know for 360 or ps3 version sorry.

[alex_34]

Well 10minites in and already ran into a bug which annoyed me to no end.

Returned to camp and no party members were there.
The party i was with are the only guys n gals present and they were still in my party chasing me to no end.
tried to return bk to camp with only my playable character still didnt work.

edit. camp thing happened again on 1.02a seems to be ur sopposed to go straight to redcliff straight after the urn quest. to trigger a cutscene.

Modifié par alex_34, 21 février 2011 - 05:00 .

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Not sure what mods you're running, but I have over 3GB of them between my "/override" and my "/addins" folders, plus all the official DLC (now via the UE, but not previously.)

I've had patch v1.04 installed since release day and haven't seen any issues (EXCEPT the CtD problem that surfaced with 1.03. Fixed that with the "Large Memory Area Flag" work-around.)
Haven't heard of the problem you describe being associated with 1.04 either...

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 21 février 2011 - 05:01 .

[alex_34]

Thanks for the feedback thandal NLyman found workaround for the camp problem. Good to see you arn't having anything major problemwise. Also brings me a bit of hope since i cant get custom specs to work properly on 1.02a patch and i kinda...really wanna use em



Now that i found why the party members disapeared in camp meaning i can nose around the 1.04 patch again. Ill keep you all updated.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

@alex_34;  So... what was it? (Other players might be stumped by the same issue.)

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 21 février 2011 - 06:07 .

[dragonsouce]

Stippling wrote...

Kastagir wrote...

While it is perfectly understandable to be upset with the way Bioware has seemingly abandoned Dragon Age:Origins in favor of the sequel, it is not at all acceptable or appropriate to call others idiots for buying future Bioware products. Coming from a PC-exclusive perspective, I have higher expectations for game design and support, so it shouldn't be hard to understand my disappointment with the current state of DA:O on the PC platform. Personally, I would urge against rewarding Bioware for abandoning us DA:O fans in favor of what appears to be a console-focused and technically inferior sequel that is certain to suffer from the same broken promises that have plagued its predecessor - but everyone is free to do as they wish.

There are plenty of fan-made patches that solve the small glitches with the game. Not sure where these immense, game-breaking problems are that you've experienced, but across my multiple playthroughs I've never experienced something SO major to the game that it ruined it for me. Sure the occasional dialogue line gets goofed up. Seriously though, if you're not willing to look past it and are not willing to look for external solutions, then you are just as much to blame. Patching is a free service. bioware is a company. They're not going to stall their new product to freely fix their old one.

Shortly diverting to the comment about Dragon Age 2, you really have to do some research before you say that. The gameplay is the same, but more polished. You're doing yourself a disservice writing it off so easily.

Many major companies spend LESS resources patching their games which usually have much more game-breaking bugs attached to it.

It was suposed to run on Windows 7 64
and patch 1.03 was never even tested on 64 bit , they admitted they forgot.
 
That is criminal misrepresentation. My DVD case said windows 7 it was Advertised to run on 64.

That a real crime. So Kastagir and Stippling it nice to know it runs on your system but other than Gloating and saying How wonderful your game is WHY IN THE NAME OF MISS PIGGEYS HAIRY LEFT ARM PIT ARE YOU POSTING HERE ???

I got a damaged Hard drive from playing there Window 7 64 bit compatible Game when it was patch 1.03 (a untested PATCH!!!! That was SUPPOSED TO BE TESTED!!!! Now 1.04 is not much better for me but my point is
I Lost a Hard Drive becouse they could not be bothered to do the bare  bare minimum required BY LAW !!! Becouse Teck support said they never tested window7 64 with that PATCH. That was Pure Lazy and it cost me a LOT WORK.

As For Free service how do you figure that? I Payed 60.00 Dollars for a working Game that was suposed  to work, there required to give ME THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR MY MONEY!!!!

Patch for crashes that destroy HARD WARE ARE NOT A FREEBIE SERVICE WHEN YOU PAYED FOR MONEY FOR SAID SOFTWARE !!!!! 


LESS resources patching their games? Oh wow witch companys would that be?

Expantion came out never worked on 64 miti core was Never Fixed.  They never even tried.

Awakening came with 1.04 Mandatory. AND HOW MANY UPDATE AND PATCH SINCE THE EXPANTION???

How can 0 be LESS resources patching their games? Oh wow witch companys would that be?
That put in less than Zero? That Incredable!

1.04 Is Awakening Vanilla that dose not work as it was sold as. And There was no Patches  for it NONE!

much more game-breaking bugs attached to it.

IT DESTROYED MY HARD DRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   IT DID A SOLID OS LOCK UP AND CRASHED MY PC AND DAMAGED A PHYSICAL REAL DAMAGE!!

You heard of worse??? What did this other company do Transform the PC into SkyNet??

Modifié par dragonsouce, 21 février 2011 - 07:30 .

[alex_34]

@Thandal NLyman.



U mean the party camp wobblies (sadly going straight to redcliff didnt work out like i planed) or the Custom specs not working.



with the party camp i now cant talk to sten, zevran and shale. Annoying since i aint even got shales personal task yet. When i talk to leliana the camera does a wobbly and goes in some weird position and she does the speech when you first pick her up. After that im just walking on black screen. But i got so many mods installed especially lately i been installing alot. Only new companion mod i got installed is the ser gilmore. i cant tell if its conflict or not but maybe i should give the project page a nose to see if anyone been having problems. Guess i need to clean install etc. Kinda been going overboard with the content mod downloads. Kinda cheesed off i gotta start over but thats minor compared to what other people have had to put up with and was my own fault to begin with.



While with the custom specs when i use 1.02a patch the specs are on the left side of the little open book thing only seens to have room for 4 specs to fit in so any custom ones wont fit. They may be installed correctly etc but they wont show and u cant select them and pretty much use them.



they changed it with 1.04 patch (dunno bout 1.03 aint used it) the specs u can choose were slaped on the right side (swaped with the stats) and had space for ur standard specs +4 custom ones or something. I know people been having this problem with the warrior death knight spec which you can download from the nexus site when they were using the older patches.



@Dragonsource Can understand the anger hell id be raging like mad too if it says windows 7 on the box should work no escuse. Same with the not testing patch on 64bit again no escuse. and regarding multicore processors wasnt they common place when the game was being made? Even my older games dont make a fuss about it.



will keep you all updated if i learn anything new

[Thandal N'Lyman]

I've been running DA on my Win7/64-bit rig exclusively. What problems have occurred (CtD, which began with patch 1.03) I could correct (at least to an acceptable level) with the "Large Memory Area Flag" fix.



Never had ANY of the other behaviours described, but guess they could be related to the OS. It's more likely that they're related to other issues with the specific configuration (of everything!) on a particular machine.

[Rocky_Kucan]

I´m sorry if this isnt meant under this topic...but I´ve just wanted to ask if anyone had issues with sound after the update to patch 1.04, everything works fine there just isnt any sound at all. If any one can help I would appreciate it! Thanks!!!

[alex_34]

@Rocky_Kucan



Do you use 5.1 Sorround sound or 7.1 on your computer? and is the sound onboard or a addon card (dedicated). I had similar problems when i first got my game many moons ago. My sound is 5.1 onboard and music and some of my sounds were completely absent in some areas of the game. I managed to get it going again by forcing stereo sound in the menu until i could find the update for my perticular soundware. Other then that all i can say is are your sound drivers up to date and theres no corruption/conflicts? (Hardware related or Game mods) Sorry im not much help my computer experience isn't exactly fantastic. But hopefully one of these solutions can help you with your problem and if not make the problem more manageable so you can find the proper solution.

[SLAYEROO]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

I've been running DA on my Win7/64-bit rig exclusively. What problems have occurred (CtD, which began with patch 1.03) I could correct (at least to an acceptable level) with the "Large Memory Area Flag" fix.

Never had ANY of the other behaviours described, but guess they could be related to the OS. It's more likely that they're related to other issues with the specific configuration (of everything!) on a particular machine.

Hm... i had around 30 CtDs so far with my 6 playthroughs of the UE. Googling "Large Memory Area Flag" fix didn't give me any DA:O results other than people mentioning it.
Can you give any links to that fix so i can get rid of the crashes? Thanks!