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[Yakko77]

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

Master Chief, Lieutenant Commander, or Captain?

I think his official rank is Lt. Commander but when you're the CO of a ship you're called the "Captain" regardless of rank.

[stormrain]

Yakko77 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
Master Chief, Lieutenant Commander, or Captain?

I think his official rank is Lt. Commander but when you're the CO of a ship you're called the "Captain" regardless of rank.

Which is why I found it strange that everyone still refered to Shepard as "Commander" instead of "Captain" when he became the CO of the Normandy in ME1. Even though he'd just been named a spectre, he still had closer ties to the Alliance than he did in ME2 (where "commander" was pretty much his nickname by then).

Like you said, CO's are refered to as Captain regardless of rank. It's a matter of respect and tradition. So why is Shepard exempted? I think it has more to do with Bioware being civilian and wanting the name "Commander Shepard" to be familiar, than any in-game reason.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

TheScientist wrote...

In movies they always talk about posthumous two rank promotions, so might a heroic but dead Lt. Cmdr Shepard be a proper Captain?

Yeah I mentioned this before and it was pretty much ignored by everyone else being fixated on why Shep is still called Commander and not Captain.

Sora Kitano wrote...

Interesting how no one has even
mentioned that since Shepard died, the Alliance may have given him some
form of special promotion due to death in the service of the military,
which could have elevated his rank to Captain.

Though considering
that you are still called Commander and no one goes out of their way to
correct that even if said special promotion was made kinda makes it a
moot point to consider

[SandTrout]

Posthumous promotions aren't that common. Most naval Medal of Honor recipients are posthumous, but very few receive promotions for their actions. Don't believe everything that comes out of Hollywood.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

SandTrout wrote...

Posthumous promotions aren't that common. Most naval Medal of Honor recipients are posthumous, but very few receive promotions for their actions. Don't believe everything that comes out of Hollywood.

I only mention Shepard getting such a promotion because he did have a heavy hand in pretty much saving the entire galaxy from a potiential "Geth" invasion and may have also saved the Council. Though once again, if such a promotion did happen as a part of the ME story, it would have more than likely been mentioned somewhere along the way in the ME2 storyline.

[Yakko77]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

FuturePasTimeCE wrote...
Master Chief, Lieutenant Commander, or Captain?

I think his official rank is Lt. Commander but when you're the CO of a ship you're called the "Captain" regardless of rank.

Which is why I found it strange that everyone still refered to Shepard as "Commander" instead of "Captain" when he became the CO of the Normandy in ME1. Even though he'd just been named a spectre, he still had closer ties to the Alliance than he did in ME2 (where "commander" was pretty much his nickname by then).

Like you said, CO's are refered to as Captain regardless of rank. It's a matter of respect and tradition. So why is Shepard exempted? I think it has more to do with Bioware being civilian and wanting the name "Commander Shepard" to be familiar, than any in-game reason.

In modern U.S. Navy jargon, being a Lt. Commander or Commander you're often referred to as simply a Commander and I think it's somewhat interchangable to refer to someone of that rank, even if they're the "Captain" of a ship, as either their rank, Commander, or their ship responsibility such as ship "Captain".  Showing proper respect for their rank and/or title is appropriate in most cases IIRC.

Keep in mind Navigator Presley was also an officer  but he was often refered to by his title/rate/duty of "Navigator" instead of his rank but either or are appropriate IIRC in modern navies, not just the U.S. Navy.  Same goes for lots of other duties.  Chaplain, Medical Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief of the Boat, etc are all officer or higher enlisted ranks that refer to title/duty instead of their rank..

My rank back when I was in the Navy was Petty Officer 3rd class but I  was often just called Petty Officer or my rate/duty which was Damage Controlman (3rd class) or just DCman or DC3 for short. 

Modifié par Yakko77, 22 juillet 2010 - 01:39 .