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[OBakaSama]

I think quite a few England managers have tried to get Scholes to come out of retirement since he, well, retired from international duty. But it makes sense to not make the sort of criticisms he and Neville have made while still being an active part of the England set-up. Their thoughts have only come out after a while away from their playing days. They've identified England's weak points, especially its infrastructure and our general attitude to how the game is played.

I'm starting to think that journalists just walk beside Tevez just to hear what he has to say so they can write articles on his trials in football away from his family. He could well be a quiet family man, just not very quiet with respect to his role as a footballer as he seems to be insistent on complaining about his career. Half expecting him to fail a drugs test as he had to take his wife's slimming pills as he got fat because of all da bad men.....

'Barca' and 'decency' in the same sentence. Didn't think of that combination.

Yeah, read about Sneijder. Seems to be a case of damage limitation. Odd how Mourinho got dragged into it though.

EDIT: Wooooo! Page 100.

Modifié par OBakaSama, 04 septembre 2011 - 08:19 .

[Druss99]

Wey hey OBaka wins the ton up prize. A candlelit dinner with Iain Dowie.

I think Scholes being played on the left to accomodate Gerrard and Lampard sums up everything that was and is wrong with the England set up.

I'd think your right about Tevez but the footage of him on the Argentine talk shows makes me think he just loves attention and he is the one chasing down journalists to rant in whatever language he speaks. Something tells me he can't actually speak Spanish either and just communicates in grunts and taps. I can see the slimming pills thing happening, it will clearly be someone else's fault though, probably a nameless City executive.

I can see Barca spending the next year spouting comment after comment about how they ripped Arsenal off.

Sneijder seems to have a different comment every day for the last few days. Some of them contradicting others.

[OBakaSama]

Dowie, huh? Hm.....candle-lit fish and chip supper.

Yeah, Scholes was played out of position to accommodate Lampard and Gerrard. I recall that it really threw England out of balance as it left the left hand side exposed, typically leaving Ashley Cole to defend by himself. Scholes' natural position is in the middle anyway, so why play the classiest player England have had in ages out of position? And to accommodate a partnership which quite frankly never worked. Strange.....

It's funny how Tevez seems to have relationships with board members. You'd think that players wouldn't really have much contact with them really. And talk shows? Hm...sounds like a celebrity thing.

Barca probably would (and likely stick a finger up at Arsenal as well). Be interesting whether Fabregas can stay fit and not be injured in Spain. I think I recall that some players do better there physically due to the warmer climate.

Haven't seen any more Sneijder comments since the last one. Sometimes I wonder if their agents prepare these things, or that they clash with their agents.

Seen Capello's comments on Carroll? Having essentially put Lampard on the side for the Bulgaria game, one is tentatively aware that Capello may actually be choosing players on merit rather than star power. Hopefully this trend continues and will be fruitful for the team. Besides, given the age of players like Lampard it's about time that the young players need to play on the international stage; you know, to get them adapted to that level of competition.

Here's to another 100 pages.

[Druss99]

When having candle-lit dinners with Iain I'd suggest blowing out the candles and eating in the dark.

The best bit was that Scholes had no pace. Shackling your best player to accomodate the media darlings. The English way.

Tevez is starting to remind me of Blanka from Street Fighter.

Spain is also a less physical league and alot less challenging. It makes things alot easier for Barca and Real in Europe when they only have two challenging league matches all year against each other to worry about.

I just read the Carroll comments, I found the end of it ominous saying if him and Lampard found form they would be back in. No matter how good Lampards form has been he is always crap for England, whats gonna change this time? How far down the pecking order is Carroll? Is he even first choice for Liverpool anymore?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

WTH! I've been busy and lost all the yesterdays matches. Any funny or disturbing stuff?

[Merci357]

Druss99 wrote...

Spain is also a less physical league and alot less challenging. It makes things alot easier for Barca and Real in Europe when they only have two challenging league matches all year against each other to worry about.

I don't think Atlético or Valencia are a total push over, even for Real or Barca. But beyond that there are a lot of "easy" matches for them, of course.

Then again, ManU, Inter or Bayern have plenty of those in their leagues, as well. Maybe not that many, but honestly, when I think about the Premier League, I don't think teams like Stoke, Fulham or what have you are that challenging for the Manchester teams.

Modifié par Merci357, 05 septembre 2011 - 03:24 .

[Druss99]

Merci357 wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

Spain is also a less physical league and alot less challenging. It makes things alot easier for Barca and Real in Europe when they only have two challenging league matches all year against each other to worry about.

I don't think Atlético or Valencia are a total push over, even for Real or Barca. But beyond that there are a lot of "easy" matches for them, of course.

Then again, ManU, Inter or Bayern have plenty of those in their leagues, as well. Maybe not that many, but honestly, when I think about the Premier League, I don't think teams like Stoke, Fulham or what have you are that challenging for the Manchester teams.

When did Athletico last beat Real though? There are a few decent teams in Spain, Villareal and Sevilla were decent too but they are no match for Barca or Real.

In the PL teams like Fulham and Stoke will never win the league without rich Arabs buying it for them but they give the bigger teams a game. Look at the amount of points United dropped on the road last year. Anyone can beat anyone else in the PL, but that doesn't seem to be the case in Spain from what I've seen. Already this season United and Chelsea have just about scraped wins against teams. It might not look it from the results or highlights but they have both been very lucky to win when being outplayed by "lesser" teams. Its no walk in the park.

Maybe its a different mentality. Maybe in other leagues teams are up for taking on the big teams and trying to earn a famous victory or fighting for a draw but in Spain they just accept the spanking thats coming their way. Real broke their record for most points in a season two years ago and only finished second. I think last year or the year before was a record low points total for the winner of the PL. That to me is the difference in the two leagues. Real and Barca can rest players knowing they will probably win anyway.

Modifié par Druss99, 05 septembre 2011 - 04:32 .

[OBakaSama]

I think there are easy matches in any league. There was a time when Serie A was very open and it seemed any team from something like six teams could have won the title. Though since the match fixing scandal which saw Juventus demoted and Milan docked points the power (as it were) swung in Inter's favour. At least that's what my hazy memory tells me (and regulars know how dodgy that is).

I'm under the impression that Bayern Munich are no longer the team they once were, though I haven't checked to see how they've been doing. It just feels that it's a far cry from the team that won a treble and when the top teams were contemplating breaking away to form a European super league. Reminds me of the passing comments we've made about the financial power of fans who follow their teams for away games; say they do break away, will they get the gates to justify such a competition or will it rely heavily on TV deals?

Valencia is a nice little mention there, Merci. I think Benitez's supporters would cite the fact that he has managed to win La Liga with Valencia and broke the Real-Barca dominance. It would also partially explain why he is considered by some to be a good manager (not that I particularly rate him after his stint at Liverpool).

The impression I get regarding the Spanish leagues is they are less physically demanding as Druss suggests. I first got that impression when Beckham was touted as leaving Man Utd and the papers were discussing whether he should go to Italy or Spain. They reasoned Spain as he would have more time on the ball to whip crosses in, which implied that tackles don't go flying in all that often.

Coupled with that we often get the oft-cited pace of the Premier League when a foreign player makes the move here; whether they can adapt to the physical demands of the game here.

Not sure about Carroll's pecking order, and Liverpool are doing quite well it has to be said on the basis of three games. Of more concern is Gerrard getting fit. Seeing that statistics apparently show he's detrimental to the team's performance, will Dalglish ruin a good thing by having Gerrard walk straight into the first team after such a long absence? And Carragher reckons they can challenge a few teams this year; just slightly short of 'this is our year' type comments.

I suppose when it comes to form it would depend on the others as well. With regards to Lampard the management (whomever it may be) will eventually have to play without him, so it's advantageous for them to let younger players assume that role and let them become part of the team. Hopefully Capello doesn't mean they will be automatic first choice though.

As for the Tevez-Blanka imagery, Druss.... I think Blanka speaks better English.

EDIT: Bargh! Slow again.

Fulham doing the double over Man Utd when Chris Coleman was in charge comes to mind about lesser teams giving the bigger teams a test. Also...Norwich giving Chelsea a game before the sending off of Ruddy just before the international break. And yeah, we still lost that but there's much to be optimistic about.

Mentality does play a part. Back in the 90s during Man Utd's dominance teams had already lost in the dressing room as they didn't believe they could win. Things are different now for the most part.

Modifié par OBakaSama, 05 septembre 2011 - 04:58 .

[Druss99]

I think a break away league would be chaos with tv rights. They seem to work different in every country.

I think alot of the physical demands of the PL come from the fact that if you don't charge around like a headless chicken then your considered lazy. Plus players seem to get away with a bit more physicality. It takes a while to get used to for some players.

I suspect Gerrard will go straight back into the team and then it will be "this year is our year" again. Although I've heard it mentioned a couple of times already.

Does Benitez still have fans? Aren't they all blindly clapping their hands and shouting "Dalglish!" now? That chant is immensely annoying. Almost as bad as Chelsea's "Thats why we're champions!" a few years ago every time they did something remotely imrpessive, they weren't even singing it ironically.

I just get the feeling that when the Euro's roll around there Lampard and Gerrard will be on the team sheet. I'm conditioned to expect it.

I've been imagining a green Tevez with bright orange hair all afternoon. He looks alot like Blanka too with that jaw.

Anyone seen the latest Gary Cook incident? Bet he loses his job for making a joke. Whats the world coming to? This fake twitter account taking the ****** is kinda brilliant though...

http://twitter.com/#!/NotGarryCook

[OBakaSama]

The TV rights might be chaotic, though I would guess it would just mean more money for the clubs. Haven't some of the bigger clubs tried to go it alone for their home matches for the overseas audience? You know, so it isn't part of the Premier League package deal as it were? Not saying that's what they'd do in a supposed super league though; just the idea of finances coming in again.

Hm...headless chickens in the Premier League. Might be more entertaining than certain players....

Hm...sounds like we'll have to try and get a mock up of the Blanka-ized Tevez and use some side-by-side comparisons.....

Yeah, saw it first on F365 and it seemed...odd. Barely made much sense. Read a bit more and...well, I'm not sure what to make of it. I can see the phrase being interpreted in different ways: one being more flattering for Cook and the other being rather condemning. (Though it would depend largely on context which we seem to lack.) I have to admit though what he said subsequently reminds me of something else. You aware of Kurt Angle, Druss? (I'm aware that you follow a bit of wrestling just not sure how much.) It sounds very much like one of his 'my Twitter was hacked' type excuses. In Cook's case it remains to be seen. What I don't really understand is why is it an FA incident and not, say, a police incident if the allegations are true. Maybe I just misunderstand the breadth and depth of the FA's legal status....

[Druss99]

Theres a whole thing on F365 now about the tv rights in Spain...talk about chaotic. I reckon they are stealing ideas for articles from this thread. If Blanca Tevez turns up on there then we will know for sure.

The Cook thing had me baffled too I didn't understand it at all. But SSN claim "Ravaged with Cancer" was something that Onouha's mum originally said about herself in a mail to Marwood that was CC'd to him and he was using it to mock her in a mail to Brian Marwood which was accidently CC'd to her. Its a weak excuse at best, why would someone hack his account and just send that? Like he wasn't checking his email on holiday? I don't understand why the FA or the cops would be involved. An executive said something about an agent. It was in poor taste but its not really a big deal in my opinion. Its all blown out of proportion I dunno why she is crying to the media if she is so embarrassed. I actually found it a bit of a crazy thing to say in the first place.

I know of Kurt Angle and was always under the impression that he was completely unhinged even from his WWE days his eyes aren't right. I hadn't heard about any twitter shenanigans though, to be honest I'm kinda surprised he can operate a computer.

I see Wengers appeal was turned down by UEFA. So they tell him he can do it, he does it and they then tell him he can't. He gets two game ban for doing what they told him and his appeal is thrown out. Mourinho admits to doing the same thing without the UEFA permission and they do nothing. Football eh?

[OBakaSama]

That would be something. Actually, they're having this look-a-like thing on the front page, so if the Tevez-Blanka thing does come up.....*heh*

I think the phrase "ravaged with cancer" is what is reported across the board. At first I took the humour to be related to that particular phrase; at least that was my first impression. Thing is...I miss where the humour is on that because I just don't get it. I thought it could have been something connected with the use of the English language such that it wasn't correct in some sense; but to me it does make sense. (Additional thought on that would be when Ronald Reagan said he had Alzheimers, and the joke that came from his speech. Not that having Alzheimers is funny, but that Reagan pronounced it in two different ways within the same speech. I took this email kerfuffle to be similar to that.) The subsequent comment about sleeping at night...that's where I'm lost; I would need more information and context to read that correctly. By itself it just seems...odd.

The reason I brought up the police comes from a couple of thoughts. Firstly, if indeed she believed it to be defamatory in a law breaking manner (whether it is or not is subject to scrutiny), then it seems odd to go to the FA. Surely the immediate people to contact would be Man City themselves. (You know, sort of like complaining about a particular shop worker or something.) If she believes it's a civil matter, then it sounds like something for the police. (We had a case here quite a few years ago after the introduction of more...bans on religious jokes and stuff, that a person wearing a T-shirt was reported to the police. That's the sort of state we're in now it seems.)

I certainly agree that if it is embarrassing for her, then why let so many people know. Seemingly odd behaviour. I guess we'll have to see what comes out of this. What really puzzled me is how some reporters referred to her as 'Dr.' in the opening paragraph only then to use 'Mrs.' later in their articles....

Kurt Angle can operate a computer; sometimes to bash other people, and when things go wrong or he's deemed to have crossed a line he claims his Twitter account was hacked. It's become somewhat of a running joke whenever he tweets something considered to be disparaging.

UEFA is marvellous. Conspiracy theory time: this is Barcelona's revenge for Arsenal beating them in a match last season.

Hm...Ferguson made a query about Maldini. Never would have happened back then. At that time none of Italy's best players ever left Serie A. I think there was also the thought that their best players played in Italy; and those that were playing elsewhere were never considered for international duty. That seemed to change somewhat around the time they won the World Cup.

[Bozorgmehr 2.0]

Druss99 wrote...

When did Athletico last beat Real though? There are a few decent teams in Spain, Villareal and Sevilla were decent too but they are no match for Barca or Real.

In the PL teams like Fulham and Stoke will never win the league without rich Arabs buying it for them but they give the bigger teams a game. Look at the amount of points United dropped on the road last year. Anyone can beat anyone else in the PL, but that doesn't seem to be the case in Spain from what I've seen. Already this season United and Chelsea have just about scraped wins against teams. It might not look it from the results or highlights but they have both been very lucky to win when being outplayed by "lesser" teams. Its no walk in the park.

Maybe its a different mentality. Maybe in other leagues teams are up for taking on the big teams and trying to earn a famous victory or fighting for a draw but in Spain they just accept the spanking thats coming their way. Real broke their record for most points in a season two years ago and only finished second. I think last year or the year before was a record low points total for the winner of the PL. That to me is the difference in the two leagues. Real and Barca can rest players knowing they will probably win anyway.

No team is a match for Barcelona at the moment. If you put them in the PL they'll be 20 points clear of the rest around Christmas. I think only Man Utd could keep up with Real. There is simply nothing you can do against Barca's playstyle. Take a look at Barcelona's matches against the PL teams - both Arsenal and Utd look like a bunch of amateurs last year (I almost felt sorry for em).

Spanish football is focused on speed and technique - physical strength is of little use when you're up against Messi, Xavi and Iniesta (you won't be able to touch them anyways A less physical game does not mean a less demanding game for the players involved. There are no walk-overs in the Primera Division; all team have lots of international players and clubs like Malaga or Athletico Madrid are likely going to beat Fulham, Stoke, and Newcastle Utd quite easily.

Oh, and I seriously doubt there is single club in the PL that is hated by all the others as passionately as all Spanish clubs hate Real Madrid (but that's more a political thing, not really football related).

[Seeker Sparrow]

I'd actually put money on it to see if Barca would achieve a 20 point gap over the likes of Utd and Chelsea by Christmas, 10-12 maybe but not 20 surely.

I agree that the Spanish La Liga is completely different than our Premier League though that's more to do with watching the teams that play in the Europa League and get mediocre results, and yeah there is a lot of changing of pace when watching teams from other countries.

I'm trying to think of clubs that are really hated right now over here, does Man City this year count? I mean I'm always shaking my head at them anyway (is a United fan btw) but this year they've already shown some facepalm worthy moments.

[OBakaSama]

Man City do indeed have a few facepalm moments, and considering the recent kerfuffles it's not limited to the usual suspects of Tevez and Balotelli. As for hated...I don't think there are many teams that really attract that sort of ire from other teams' fans. I'm aware that a lot resented Man Utd's dominance and success over the years, and recently there has been shift towards disliking teams with wealthy backers like Chelsea during the earlier years of Abramovich's ownership and currently Man City for similar reasons (I think). And despite the apparent wealth of the Blackburn's owners they have yet to accrue such feelings, probably due to their failings so far and having the butcher of Blackburn at the helm. Hm...maybe that will be more intimidating if that's the Butcher of Blackburn.....

My old man would say that there are no easy games in football; the ball is round and it's the same everywhere. Didn't one of those big teams in Spain lose to relegation fodder last season? Happens everywhere I would expect.

I'd be hesitant to think Barcelona would be that far ahead though. While the demands of the game are similar (90 minutes and all that) would a team like Barcelona cope with the other English teams consistently over the course of a season? And take into account that they'll no longer have an advantage of a winter break to rejuvenate to allow niggles to go away before playing again...it could be different.

I have found it curious that Arsenal's win in their home leg against Barcelona seems to have been forgotten or wiped from memory. I'm almost certain there's a conspiracy going on involving Barcelona undermining Arsenal in every way possible. Hm....*strokes beard thoughtfully*

[Druss99]

I'll start with the Spanish thing I suppose. I seem to recall Arsenal beating Barca in their first leg last year only to be undone in the second leg by a ridiculous refereeing decision that they are still being punished for. I'm not denying that Barca are the best team in Europe, they obviously are. But they wouldn't be clear by anything close to 20pts. Stoke on a freezing cold November night would be quite the proposition. Theres also all the extra cup games and lack of a winter break, there has been a few foreign players in recent seasons who really struggled with all the games over christmas and managers have sent them on holiday or had to rest them. Would an entire team be able to cope? I'm not sure but don't Barca have a smaller squad than most elite PL teams? If thats true it certainly wouldn't help.

I'm not sure Malaga and Athletico being compared to Newcastle and Fulham is fair. I think Spurs and Liverpool would be fairer.

Chelsea are fairly widely hated. I've never met anyone who isn't a Chelsea fan who can list anything remotely likeable about them. Not sure if that counts or not. Liverpool are widely hated/laughed at.

Onouha's momma to me seems to be doing her best to milk it and get a big settlement. Reading the email was the worst day of her life? Really?...really? The worst day? Worse than being told she had cancer? Two men saying something is worse than being told you might be dying? Really?(I dunno why I needed the Miz impersonation, dramatic effect?)

My take on it was that she was trying to negotiate something with Marwood (she is Onouha's agent too) and tried to use it as some sort of ploy. Its the only way I can imagine her using the phrase "ravaged with cancer". So they found it comical that she was apparently ravaged with it but was still trying to negotiate and joked about it. "How do you sleep at night?" was possibly a reference to it not working as a negotiating ploy. I dunno thats just my assumption. Her saying it was the worst day of her life and all that makes it look to me like she is the kind of person that would attempt to milk something like that, especially given that she has now gone to the media over it. It screams "I want a big settlement!" to me. But I am cynical and could be totally wrong, I don't know all the facts and thats just what it looks like to me from what I have seen. Also Gary Cook is a colossal tw@t.

I read that Maldini thing, I remember the rumours years ago but knew it was never gonna happen. Like all the Giggs to Inter ones. The Batistuta/Ronaldo to United rumours toyed with my heart, they seemed almost plausible but never happened.

Lampard is back in the England team....form....best players....not picking players based on name....did I imagine that?

Modifié par Druss99, 06 septembre 2011 - 05:57 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Chelsea is like the England's Inter... oh and there is lots of changes in Inter. Let's see what they're doing works or not.
Barca has lots of very good players like Pique, Adriano and Bojan. But without Messi and Javi they're not invincible.

[Druss99]

Hasn't Bojan gone to Roma?

[Bozorgmehr 2.0]

Druss99 wrote...

Hasn't Bojan gone to Roma?

Yes. And Roma's new manager is also a former Barca player (Luis Enrique).

[Bozorgmehr 2.0]

Barcelona wouldn't be 20 points ahead at Chrismas But there would likely be a significant gap nonetheless.

They are the best team of all times. There has never been a team that so completely dominated football like they're doing now. And Barca only got stronger with Fabregas and Sanchez. I don't see how anyone can stop them this season or the next. They are not invincible, but only extremely bad luck on their part and a gloriously fortunate opponent (and a goalkeeper playing the match of his life) can do the trick - Barca lost at home, two to zero, against Hercules Allicante (who relegated) last season LOL.

AFAIK there isn't a winter break in Spain though they don't play on Chrismas like the Brits They also have 38 teams in the Primera Division and have to play away and home in the cup - all in all about the same number of matches like Man Utd or Chelsea.

[OBakaSama]

Spain again. It just seems convenient to me that a lot of journalists have decided to 'forget' about Arsenal's pretty impressive showing in the first leg of that tie. Arsenal outplayed Barcelona. But...Barcelona are the professed gods of football, and gods are infallible. Allegedly. It's convenient to forget/not mention that game so Barcelona can look invincible on the field when they are clearly not. Not saying Barcelona are not a good team, but journalists need to just have a bit more perspective.

Yeah, disappointed with Lampard's reinstatement to the starting line up. Oh well...it gave us hope.

You could have something there, Druss concerning Dr., no wait, Mrs., no...er....what's her title? And the Miz 'Really' thing is starting to creep into my everyday expressions of late. I should be concerned but meh. Whatever. Anyway...ah....right, I hadn't thought about that interpretation. That would make sense in the context of things.

Sounds like interesting times for Roma then. Still remember when they lifted the title and Totti had his shirt ripped off of him by a fan.

[Druss99]

Barca aren't the best team of all time, they are just the flavour of the month. These things go in cycles. If they were that good then they wouldn't need all the diving, play acting, dodgy decisions and general scumbaggery off the pitch.

I dunno about the Dr/Mrs/Madame Onouha thing, with the facts given so far thats the only way it makes sense to me and her statements make her look incredibly dodgy in my eyes. The Miz thing actually annoys me because it came from professional waste of space Sharon Osbourne not knowing what to say so she stood repeating the same word over and over again because she just had to be saying something.

I remember thinking Roma got royally screwed with that deal. Can't remember the exact figures but they spent money to buy him and if they don't stump up a ridiculous fee after a season or two then Barca get him back. It either works out as an enormous fee or a really expensive loan and Barca can then sell him to someone else. I don't see why Roma agreed to it. There was a whole article about it.

Five minutes of watching the England match and the commentary has already made me want to put my foot through the tv. Wales don't seem to want to pass the ball. Shoot on sight policy.

The Northern Ireland match should be shown in classrooms as an example of how not to play a football match and how not to referee one. First goal was shambolic defending and should have been cleared, second goal the keeper gets nutmegged from about 35 yards, third goal is an og, fourth goal was possibly the single worst piece of defending I've ever seen, for a professional footballer to do that in his own box is absurd.

Inbetween all this the ref decides that two NI players being clean through on goal is not an advantageous situation so calls it back for a freekick and denies a stonewall penalty. NI's game plan seemed to be to pass the ball until they gave it away. Estonia's plan involved being slightly less sh*t than the opposition and hope for the best. I had to turn it over incase watching it somehow makes me a worse player.

Modifié par Druss99, 06 septembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[OBakaSama]

I would have to somewhat agree with Druss about Barcelona to a large extent. They do play some lovely football, but when they're not they're just as bad as anyone else (trying to get others sent off, diving and the likes). They certainly aren't the model professionals that some would have us believe (at least that's how I feel about it). Off the pitch, well...I think we've touched upon it a few times here in the past, but suffice it to 'say' that their business practices are somewhat seemingly dodgy does rather irritate. Funnily enough, Real seems to have improved in that respect. Hm....

Sharon Osborne started that? Hm...sort of glad I didn't know that. Though getting it from the Miz isn't exactly something to write home about either....

Wasn't there another deal like that one? (Hazy memory in action again.) It does sound dodgy and only seems to benefit Barcelona. Very strange.

Commentary for the England-Wales game on ITV1: had to wonder. On bringing on Earnshaw (he played for Norwich!) I heard it said that here's a player who knows where the net is. OK..... I'd be worried if any player on the pitch didn't know where the net is to be honest. And it was a pretty atrocious match as far as I was concerned; not surprised we were mocked for our FIFA rankings. Seriously...fourth? You have to be kidding.

Read about the Northern Ireland match and it sounded abysmal. I take it it was really that bad?

Well...at least normal service will resume come the weekend.

Really wondering how slowly I type. Posts keep going up before I post mine and I keep missing 'em. *Hmph*

[Druss99]

I think the only reason Real have improved is because they currently aren't trying to sign anyone from England who plays for a team that doesn't want to sell so we aren't hearing about them over here. Barca have always been just as bad. I remember them promising their fans they would sign Beckham and Keane (I think it was Keane anyway) before their presidential elections to get votes. I believe thats how the whole Fabregas thing started.

Yeah it was back during the Raw guest host thing. Possibly the most embarrassing pair of guest hosts her and Ozzy, one can barely speak and I'm not sure if he knew where he was and the other is one of the most pointless people on the planet. Miz came out to interrupt them as often happens and she just stood there repeating "Really?" over and over again. It was so awful that Miz was reduced to doing the same thing back to her if I remember correctly. She did this repeatedly throughout the show and it got worse each time. I've tried to forget it but I just can't.

Yeah I thought there was another deal like that too but I can't remember who it was. Who else have they "sold"?

The commentary bit that got me was "117th in the world? I don't think so!" ITV's commentary is generally horrendous anyway. There was a bit in the NI match where the commentator said "NI have played themselves into a dark cul de sac here." I still don't know what that meant.

NI match really was that bad. I don't understand why people are getting on Worthington's back, its not like he has world class players to choose from. They really aren't good enough to qualify and would get embarrassed it they did.

It takes me a while too so I usually hit F5 just before hitting submit to check. I'm still amazed that after 100 pages this hasn't become a romance thread. Poor Deus Ex has already suffered that fate.

Have you all seen this? Its...um...just look....

http://www.101greatg...aswan-15375262/

Modifié par Druss99, 07 septembre 2011 - 04:55 .

[OBakaSama]

It seems every time there's a presidential election the candidates always claim they will sign so-and-so. Beckham was touted as one such player at the time. Political machinations I'd put them down as.

*Shudders*

Can't think; won't think.

Starting to make me wonder if those commentators are going for a...Murray Walker or something. Maybe we need more obvious silly moments like that.

I have been refreshing the page just before I post to check; still seem to miss the odd post though. Odd. I know when posting sometimes it takes a while for it to register.

Romance thread? Hm.... actually I wonder who else has been around for those 100 pages or so. I noticed that though RageGT started the thread they don't post here often. I see you posting back then Druss; don't recognise the others. Probably not enough participants for the romance to start....well...there's always that Big Mick clip....

Had a look at that clip and....I couldn't help but laugh. Poor guy had to be consoled by someone on the opposing team. Earnshaw knows where the net is, not that he found the back of it; this guy barely knew where the ball was.