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[Druss99]

I'd agree with Lathrim, Guardiola had three of the best players in the world playing at their peak, well maybe Messi's peak is still to come he is relatively young. But what competition was there for Barca when Guardiola was in charge? Real were splashing millions but hadn't really built a team, more a collection of individuals. United were having midfield issues. Arsenal were being Arsenal. Chelsea and Inter were waiting for luck to carry them. Juventus and AC Milan weren't what they once were. Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund were still building towards what they now are. PSG, Monaco and Man City weren't there yet. Who were really the competition for a team with the three best players in the world and the ability to tap up any player they want without any fear of punishment?

I'd argue that Guardiola saw the transition coming from the Xavi/Iniesta/Messi era and got out before the going got tough.

Not sure how it relates to United at all, other than Sir Alex got the best from a team that has gaping holes that need addressing.

Messi's early season injury might do Barca a lot of good. Neymar looked like he has shown he can step up without Messi when I saw them and it gives Messi a bit of a break already.

[Druss99]

I generally find it amusing when anyone humbles Barca Except teams managed by Mourinho then it's just tedious. There's rumours that Barca have signed Hummels for next season.

Also rumours that United are signing Bruno Gomes today. Very highly rated young Brazilian striker. I think he is only 17 or 18, but half of Europe are after him apparently.

[Druss99]

8th in the table in October, not exactly that shocking. The greatest manager of all time is gone, Moyes was left with one world class player(maybe two with De Gea) and one good midfielder while almost every other team in the league spent big. Ferdinand looks like he is past it, Evans and Rafael were injured most of the season and Vidic is still trying to get back to his best. Then in attack Nani was injured, Valencia is actually better than he was last season, Rooney seems to be getting shoehorned in to please his ego which keeps Kagawa out of the side, but Welbeck already has scored more than last season and we have seen Januzaj come through and sign a new contract. Our administrative changes seemed to screw Moyes over in the transfer market too. That's a stark contrast to being handed Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. Two months into his first season is no time to say Moyes can't get the best from his players.

Roma won 2-0 despite losing Totti early to a hamstring injury, so they can't have been that terrible. Also Benitez won the Champions League with Liverpool, took them to 2nd in the league and had their most successful spell in years, that seems like a pretty decent fit.

Did anyone see Stefan Kiessling's(I've probably butchered the English spelling of that) ghost goal for Bayer Leverkusen? It was bizarre to say the least, I've actually been awarded several of those but usually from blasting the ball from an angle so hard it goes through the net and looks like it goes in. But seeing it happen in a professional game and how it happened is just so strange.

The Eto'o goal yesterday just shows how fast the game is, if the ref turns his head for a split second the rules can fall apart. You'd think one of the linsmen or the fourth official would have seen what happened. The keeper had the ball so someone must have been looking at him.

[cato potato]

Druss99 wrote...

8th in the table in October, not exactly that shocking. The greatest manager of all time is gone, Moyes was left with one world class player(maybe two with De Gea) and one good midfielder while almost every other team in the league spent big. Ferdinand looks like he is past it, Evans and Rafael were injured most of the season and Vidic is still trying to get back to his best. Then in attack Nani was injured, Valencia is actually better than he was last season, Rooney seems to be getting shoehorned in to please his ego which keeps Kagawa out of the side, but Welbeck already has scored more than last season and we have seen Januzaj come through and sign a new contract. Our administrative changes seemed to screw Moyes over in the transfer market too. That's a stark contrast to being handed Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. Two months into his first season is no time to say Moyes can't get the best from his players.

I agree with your analysis above. The struggle so far this season for your team has only managed to enhance Sir Furious's reputation even further - God knows how he won the league with that team.
I think the biggest issue was United being too cheap to buyout the final couple of months of Moyes's contract with Everton. That meant he coudn't get into the club in time to change the setup to his liking and gave him not enough time to bring in his players.

I've also read about ManU supposedly getting Mario Gomes from that Brazilian youth team. If they want him then they'll definitely get him, United have invested in that club and have first refusal on a few players - Gomes is one of them.
He is extremely highly rated but a lot of South American players with a lot of promise have struggled when they've moved to Europe.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out a couple of previous comments from me in this thread - Liverpool can't possibly challenge for the title this year & Arsene Wenger will be sacked before the end of the season.

I know nothing.

Modifié par cato_84, 23 octobre 2013 - 06:46 .

[Druss99]

^ Haven't heard anything about Gomes since then.

I think the cheapness problem may go a bit beyond Moyes contract, I suspect he wasn't given enough money to spend in the summer and was thus priced out of every move he tried to make. Then he wound up panic buying Fellaini at an inflated price.

Anyone see Rooney's latest utter stupidity? How he got away with that I'll never know.

[DragonRageGT]

Hi guys! Been busy but it is coming .. Brasil 2014!

And nobody play it like us! =))

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Oh wait.. half of the Brazil stadiums aren't rebuilt yet and only one month remained to 2014.

And I like the players of Portugal and the Germany as a whole team.

[DragonRageGT]

Kaiser Arian wrote...

Oh wait.. half of the Brazil stadiums aren't rebuilt yet and only one month remained to 2014.

And I like the players of Portugal and the Germany as a whole team.

Few days to 2014 but six months to the WC opening. No worries. No one has the "jeitinho" like us as well! lol  They will be ready.

[Druss99]

Not just goals, absolute rockets. He was utter turd right up until the second he scored the first one too. I dunno what's gotten into him.

Only a couple of weeks until the madness of the January transfer window and chairmen are panicking, trying to get new managers in before it all begins, to try and give them time to use it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple more sackings in the next few weeks.

Credit to Moyes, he hasn't set the world on fire, but there's players that Sir Alex couldn't get anything out of last season that Moyes is getting a steady improvement from. Mostly Tony V and he's got Welbeck scoring again.

Modifié par Druss99, 22 décembre 2013 - 11:02 .

[cato potato]

KnossosTNC wrote...

What a season so far. It's so tight at the top that Liverpool, who were top of the table at Christmas, are now fifth and six points behind. If they're still in the title race as they claim, then even United, Tottenham and Newcastle who are only within three points behind have to be in the conversation, as unlikely as that all sounds. Meanwhile, just two points separates the top three. Madness. Looking forward to today's games.

I can't see United winning the title this year, just getting in the top 4 will be tough. Although they just got knocked out the FA cup by Swansea so they don't have a lot else to concentrate on.

I'm starting to hope Arsenal win but if Man City's away form gets closer to their home form then they'll be unstoppable.

Sad to hear Eusebio passed away today. A truly legendary player.

[Kimosabe]

Indeed sad news of Eusebio's passing away, he played way before my time but for players like him that doesn't matter, everybody knows who he was.

Another piece of news: Lewandovski moves to Bayern..
There was a lot of speculation last year but I was happy that he didn't do it, in my opinion it is an idiotic move. Sure, Bayern is the best club in the world at the moment but they already have 2 teams worth of players who can win the Bundesliga.. In Dortmund he could do something, in Bayern he is just another player. You only have to look at Gotze for proof of that..

The Premier League definitly is intersting this year with Liverpool doing very well and United being rubbish. I kinda hope Arsenal picks the title this year out of sheer spite for Van Persie and because I really don't like those billionaire playtoys like City..

The first half of this season has been interesting to say the least here in The Netherlands.
for about 10 matches or so PEC Zwolle, a club that normally fights against relegation stood in the top 3 and on occasions even on top.
And up until that point, maybe 8 points separated the 1st from the 16th place..
Pretty much everyone is beating everyone else.. one round you lose 5-1 against a relegation candidate and the next you win 2-0 against a championship contender..

PSV is laughable this year, after 18 matches they have 27 points and are 7th. If it wasn't for the sudden turn around 2 matches ago they wouldn't even be in the top 10.. Plus, to add injury, they totally fcked up in Europe. They needed only 1 point to advance to the next round against some unknown eastern European club and they couldn't even manage that..

At the moment, Ajax in first with Vitesse on the same points and Twente and Feyenoord following on 3 and 4 points. 5 points separate the 6th from the 13th place and 3 points is the difference between direct relegation and avoiding even the playoffs for it..
So it should be an interesting second half when they resume.

Modifié par Kimosabe0, 06 janvier 2014 - 12:21 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

RIP Eusebio. I never knew him, just I'h heard his name many times.

PSV doesn't have many great players, so one shouldn't expect much from them... worse is Werder Bremen. Their best player is Aaron Hunt right now! Imagine what a great team Bremen is ... (compare it with the time when Klasnic, Klose, Borowski, Mertersacker and other great players were there. Ten years ago: 2004).

Hail Arsenal... Keep me proud!

Real Madrid, Keep up the good work!

At the moment, Bayern is p*ssing me off. Now they've got Lewandowski from Dortmund. Bayern is actually dumbing down every other team in Bundesliga >

@DragonRageGT, cool.

[modjospinnin]

Saw the second half of United's games against Swansea.

I mean, what can I say that hasn't been said before? However, I was very impressed by number 44 on the left. Very good awareness and heads up. His cross to that one guy was on a platter, but he didn't convert. Welbeck is easily the main striker, he should have a load of goals already. I don't think the current manager really has the chops. How is Rafael still the starter. I never thought he was good enough.

I've seen even less of the spanish league...but from the little I have seen CR7 seems to be finally turning up.

I've seen even less of calcio italiano.

World Cup this year, can't wait.

Still can't believe Qatar was able to buy themselves a WC. Its in an 3ffing desert!!!!!!

Modifié par modjospinnin, 13 janvier 2014 - 05:05 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

@modjospinnin, deal with Qatar!

I'm only able to watch European championship league matches and Bundesliga mostly. Other matches may be shown by TV channel managers decision (saturday-sunday matches).

Surely Ronaldo should win that prize over Messi this year. Ronaldo was really great the whole year.